celeb news Muni Long reveals the truth behind Timber's vocals and writing credits

[Maneater]

4 hours ago, bearman said:

You can easily listen to the acapella and stems and it's all Kesha so yes she's falsely dragging another artist. Her vocals are simply not on the song. 

 

Also why is Atlantic Records involved on a song that is owned by Sony? Neither Kesha, Pitbull or her at the time were signed to Warner Music. There's just a lot of weird things about what she's saying.

 

We all know the industry is ruthless and unfair but in this case I don't know what she's complaining about. She got credited, she got payed and it's all good. Pebe dropped her 2% claim when Luke blackmailed her by threatening to withdraw royalties payments to everyone involved and in the end Kesha was not payed for this song at all (or anything she has released pre-2014). 

 

 

Obviously I know her situation was very messy but how come she wasn't getting paid for songs she was credited on??

[bearman]

28 minutes ago, Maneater said:

Obviously I know her situation was very messy but how come she wasn't getting paid for songs she was credited on??

She was signed to Luke's publishing company and he simply stopped paying her the royalties he owed her when the lawsuit started in 2014 as a way to blackmail her and her mom.

[Armani?]

7 hours ago, gettsleazy said:

No eyebrows AND no solo hits to her name? She should pick a struggle before coming for anyone. 

Hrs & Hrs and Made For Me existYou didn't even look before posting this

[JoeAg]

I'm a Kesha stan #1 but damn y'all… can we please just be realistic when it comes to our favs even? let's have the same energy we have for people we're naturally skeptical of with our favs. I've literally met Kesha even, but can we actually just hear Priscilla out without immediately coming for her or accusing her of "shading" Kesha and Pebe? that's not what she's doing here  at least, it doesn't even feel like that's what she's doing in MY EYES. yes, we all know it sucks that Kesha can't really speak on this. Priscilla is not trying to drag her name through the mud or anything like that. she indeed probably has heard some stuff through the grapevine, and yes she also indeed is super talented and is allowed to

have frustrations that perhaps aren't what we'd be most thrilled about. so some of us should chill out a bit js

[dumbsparce]

I wanna hear the demo now! 

[makeme]

Kesha catching this random stray 

[B-Luke]

Female virgo songwriters about time you stand up for all the times you were done wrong re: Muni & Bebe

[Dialamba]

21 hours ago, Jay L said:

Yikes not the Kesha stans coming at Muni Long for exposing this mess  believe what you want I guess but coming for her looks and talent ain't it. 

It's always the white gays racists and misogynists 

[Digitalism]

23 hours ago, bearman said:

Here are the raw Kesha vocals from the recording session by the way. I understand where Priscilla is coming from but this story in particular has a lot of holes. She wrote a song and got rightfully credited for it. The Pebe v Luke dispute is much deeper than this and anyway neither her or Kesha got payed for Timber in the end. 

 

 

This doesn't sound like the final song at all 

Well Kesha and Pebe using the industry tricks that were used on her on other people. Not surprised at all. 

[lillavend3r]

It's been awfully quiet from #those accounts coming for Muni Long of all people 

[TomTom]

6 hours ago, Digitalism said:

Well Kesha and Pebe using the industry tricks that were used on her on other people. Not surprised at all. 

Kesha and Pebe did no such thing and it's really gross how you either spread blatant misinformation like this or post some lame shade in every Kesha-related thread.

 

Grow up.

[TomTom]

23 hours ago, Maneater said:

Obviously I know her situation was very messy but how come she wasn't getting paid for songs she was credited on??

 

22 hours ago, bearman said:

She was signed to Luke's publishing company and he simply stopped paying her the royalties he owed her when the lawsuit started in 2014 as a way to blackmail her and her mom.

It's important to note Kesha did the same thing and withheld royalties from Luke once the lawsuit began that she ultimately ended up paying when Rainbow came out, so it's probably safe to assume there has been some resolution to this on Luke's part as well (especially considering the lawsuit is over).

 

However, even without that, Kesha saw very little in royalties from her own songs because her 2005 "baby artist" contract remained in effect while she was under Luke. Luke consistently refused to renegotiate her contract in order to keep her weak and in a bad position to retaliate against him financially (which is why her net worth has always been so low compared to Gaga, Katy, Rihanna, etc. even at her peak).

 

Despite being a huge star, Luke's slave contract treated her like an unknown girl who just released her first single financially for 18 years.

[youmustbeupgraded]

On 12/31/2024 at 8:59 AM, vanishingbee said:

Am I wrong in thinking that it doesn't make sense that Kesha couldn't hit the notes? We've heard Praying, she's got the range. 

she hits the woah woah ohs later in the song when she belts them, but in the beginning its in a more mixed/head voice and its actually pretty hard to do that with an open vowel (woah) so honestly maybe she did have to change it to woo ooh that part, I think it sounds better that way though and gives it a more country feel 

 

but she did background vocals/tucked way underneath.. thats not uncommon. clearly Keshas voice is still way up front 

Edited Wednesday at 10:58 PM by youmustbeupgraded

[SlayPerry]

On 12/31/2024 at 9:40 AM, gettsleazy said:

No eyebrows AND no solo hits to her name? She should pick a struggle before coming for anyone. 

I guess your moral superiority ends when Ke$ha uses the same tricks the industry pulled on her...

[gettsleazy]

13 minutes ago, SlayPerry said:

I guess your moral superiority ends when Ke$ha uses the same tricks the industry pulled on her...

Kesha* didn't pull any tricks  Muni is purposefully and willfully using a bad faith argument for clicks and engagement.
 

The issue here is the label. You would think someone that supports women exploited by the industry would have enough tact not to blame the woman (who was likely forced to sing the song anyways) and blame the men behind the machine, but based on your post and lots of what I'm seeing in this thread, we're not using our brain capacity to its best ability. 
 

Also, like @Hobbes said, Muni is literally lying about comping Kesha's main vocal. Her BG vocals are buried under Kesha's harmonies in the stems. Kesha sang the whole song, fully, regardless if it was auto tuned. The notion that Muni's vocals are on the main track is nonsense.

[Inverted]

On 12/31/2024 at 8:19 AM, popmusicisdead said:

what in the Jennifer Lopez

What on Earth does Jennifer Lopez have to do with this thread? Every single backup vocalist used on a Jennifer Lopez song is credited and knows what they're getting into as confirmed by Christina Milian, Ashanti and others. That's not the case here.

[itshyolee]

On 12/31/2024 at 7:40 AM, gettsleazy said:

No eyebrows AND no solo hits to her name? She should pick a struggle before coming for anyone. 

She just had a solo hit last year that's platinum, which is something that Kesha hasn't seen in years. 
 

Let's keep it cute.

[Jay L]

Yeah I'm going to believe the actual artist Muni Long who has no reason to lie over pressed stans  it doesn't fit your narrative so she's a liar huh 

 

[SlayPerry]

50 minutes ago, gettsleazy said:

bad faith argument for clicks and engagement

Everything is in bad faith for you guys. Yall really have this vicitm complex

 

Anyway I'm believing the actual artist of the song Timber.

[collin]

Yall are so quick to try and paint Kesha as an evil thief  Just loud and uneducated.

[Yes, AND]

I believe Muni here, she has no reason to lie. 

[collin]

3 hours ago, Yes, AND said:

I believe Muni here, she has no reason to lie. 

I believe that she was screwed by this situation most certainly, but Kesha is probably the last person to blame and now people are dog piling her for no reason.

[stoopidjenna]

On 12/31/2024 at 11:24 AM, bearman said:

Isn't this the norm though? Some artist have been credited for far less contributions. Pebe asked 2% from Luke's cut not Muni anyway so it wasn't going to affect her. 

 

(Luke who has not worked on the song at all and got probably payed more than Muni will ever get payed as a songwriter, this is where her rage should be addressed not falsely dragging another artist for her vocals and an imaginary Atlantic Records A&R that is somehow working for Sony. You should know better with Luke magically appearing on Planet Her songs 4 years after release) 

The exec she's talking about is Ben Maddahi, who started his career at Atlantic and became president of APG, and is now SVP of A&R at Columbia.

 

She probably had some type of publishing deal as a writer with APG, which was technically a separate company but she probably thinks of it as part of Atlantic because the founder (and execs like Ben) were simultaneously working at Atlantic.

[TomTom]

8 hours ago, collin said:

Yall are so quick to try and paint Kesha as an evil thief  Just loud and uneducated.

The fact that the usual suspects ( @SlayPerry @Digitalism @Stunnah @Yes, AND) are painting a featured artist who did not receive any money for her biggest song until years later or possibly never as a villain in this scenario is truly sick.

 

It's a known fact that Kesha herself got massively screwed over by Luke and his entourage with this song, yet you shamelessly latch onto anything you can find to paint Kesha as a villain. 

 

Not surprised though.

[Gossip_Boy]

I've always side-eyed their treatment of black artists and black art. Been questionable for the longest time.