How did Lemonade become Beyoncé's most unpopular album (outstreamed by ARTPOP)?

[lonnie]

3 minutes ago, Bloo said:

But, I think it's a bit awkward for people to jump in and want to listen to Sandcastles or 6 Inch on their own when Renaissance or ST are right there, both of which are much more immediately accessible. 

I agree with lots of what you said but disagree with this, while Renaissance and ST don't require as much emotional work from a listener as Lemonade, the songs on all albums are accessible for the average listener. Neither Sandcastles or 6 Inch are as good as Haunted and Partition, or as Virgo's Groove and Cuff It. In fact, thematically and sonically, Lemonade isn't that different from the rest of the albums. Only with that particular album the betrayal of a love stands out more than any (for obvious reasons), but the songs on Lemonade individually aren't all that great simply I think.

[Bloo]

2 minutes ago, lonnie said:

I agree with lots of what you said but disagree with this, while Renaissance and ST don't require as much emotional work from a listener as Lemonade, the songs on all albums are accessible for the average listener. Neither Sandcastles or 6 Inch are as good as Haunted and Partition, or as Virgo's Groove and Cuff It. In fact, thematically and sonically, Lemonade isn't that different from the rest of the albums. Only with that particular album the betrayal of a love stands out more than any (for obvious reasons), but the songs on Lemonade individually aren't all that great simply I think.

I never said the quality of the songs are objectively better on Lemonade. I said the songs tell a very intentional story from start to end. That is not true for Ren or ST. Narratively and thematically, Lemonade is a much more complex album. Lemonade is able to subtly tap into texturism with a single lyric and tie it into a whole narrative about infidelity. Renaissance is great at what it sets out to do, but it’s not tell a coherent story with intricate themes where each songs connect to each other. That doesn’t mean the album is objectively better or worse. I personally prefer albums that do that. But albums don’t have to in order to be great. 

[lonnie]

1 minute ago, Bloo said:

I never said the quality of the songs are objectively better on Lemonade. I said the songs tell a very intentional story from start to end. That is not true for Ren or ST.

Oh I certainly agree with this, I had misunderstood you saying they were more inaccessible as saying that they were better. 

[Bloo]

1 minute ago, lonnie said:

Oh I certainly agree with this, I had misunderstood you saying they were more inaccessible as saying that they were better. 

Oh no, I meant like you can easily turn on Alien Superstar with no context and be “in” the song. You can randomly jump into Renaissance at any point in the album, really, and feel what it’s putting out there. You can’t really start halfway with Lemonade. It doesn’t even really have a good go-to single. Formation is the best one in the sense that it’s the epilogue to the story and kinda hits you over the head with the racial themes. But, the other songs require more context. So, on streaming, a song from Lemonade randomly coming on by an algorithmic suggestion is likely less engaging than something from Ren or ST. That’s what I meant by accessible. 

[BGKC]

ARTPOP might be a little overproduced, but it has some major gems and fun to go back to every now and then. LEMONADE is a bit of mood based snooze fest as a studio album. It was masterfully executed as a film, but it still being exclusive to Tidal is a joke. I only use 5 tracks. I also loathed Sorry and felt Hold Up was such a forgettable single. Formation however stomps all over any track on Artpop. 

[Johnny Cash]

Faux acclaim can only take you so far.

[liam13]

because one thing about smoke and another about mirrors 

[futuresuperstar2023]

Y'all know damn well that tidal **** ****** up Bey streams for Lemonade. Lemonade album shits on Artpop lmao. Also Lemonade is one of her moodiest albums in her discography. Also the political backlash.....

[futuresuperstar2023]

Outstreamed doesn't mean outsold either. The demographics on this site be showing

[blown away]

Just take a look at Bey's most steamed albums and you'll instantly notice a severe lack of taste among the public.

 

Her 3 best studio albums are also her three lowest streamed ones, while her most bland one and most filler-heavy one are her top 2 streamed albums. Seems like the public doesn't care about quality.

 

Also, ARTPOP had a global hit and a minor hit whereas Lemonade didn't have such a thing. Formation, Sorry and Hold Up made some noise but weren't big hits in the end.

[itshyolee]

27 minutes ago, CherryBay said:

Are we forgetting the album was uploaded to Spotify 3 years after it's release? 

You know they skipped over this fact and just wanted to be shady

 

 

18 minutes ago, Calvin said:

1989 was uploaded even later yet it became the gigantic smash on spotify.

 

I would hope that safe ass album did so since y'all claim that woman is the music industry

 

[satellites.™]

So which one sold more copies?

[Odette Violet]

The album has a specific story. People just wants simple and catchy bops, I do too. 

[Brikenbur]

Did @Born to Run not do her research and see that "LEMONADE" was released in April 2016 and wasn't added to DSP's until mid-late 2019? Such an embarrassment that people don't do their research nowadays before posting on the Internet. 

[FailSafe]

I love Hold Up. Deserves billion streams 

 

 

 

[StayFrosty]

2 hours ago, Blade Runner said:

Like how is the whole of RENAISSANCE being outsreamed by Poker Face? 

No ******* way.

[Born to Run]

3 minutes ago, Brikenbur said:

Did @Born to Run not do her research and see that "LEMONADE" was released in April 2016 and wasn't added to DSP's until mid-late 2019? Such an embarrassment that people don't do their research nowadays before posting on the Internet. 

And what does that have to do with current streaming numbers  

 

The 3 years excuse is beyond embarrassing, it's almost like you guys are implying no one has been searching for Lemonade since 2016 

[Jay07]

2 hours ago, Blade Runner said:

She's just endless PR. Her stats are pathetic. 

 

Like how is the whole of RENAISSANCE being outsreamed by Poker Face? 

No one explains WHY all the hundreds of publications, institutions and individuals are doing all this PR for Beyonce. Are they being paid by Jay? Is it all some shadowy conspiracy or something else? Go on, I can't wait to hear.

[Wicked]

45 minutes ago, blown away said:

Just take a look at Bey's most steamed albums and you'll instantly notice a severe lack of taste among the public.

 

Her 3 best studio albums are also her three lowest streamed ones, while her most bland one and most filler-heavy one are her top 2 streamed albums. Seems like the public doesn't care about quality.

 

Also, ARTPOP had a global hit and a minor hit whereas Lemonade didn't have such a thing. Formation, Sorry and Hold Up made some noise but weren't big hits in the end.

My theories behind why this is the case:

 

• Streaming
• Most people are basic and unadventurous and while there's nothing wrong with that a lot of great art that doesn't fit into that box falls between the cracks when it comes to consumption.
• That's a reason album guides used to be a thing back in the day and now music journalists are trying to bring them back, idk how that's gonna work considering how basic ppl are + anti-intellectualism + the mentality of "I don't need a critic/journalist I'll just rely on this AI driven algorithm to keep suggesting me the same music I already listened to before"

I'm not a big Lemonade fan (nowadays I think it's a solid album and I have a couple favorite tracks but eh) but it's an album that requires more engagement from the listener than her other projects is all. It's not something you listen to on shuffle which is how most people listen to music now. 

 

[Diet Pepsi]

Because like her other albums Lemonade aged like milk  

[JorgeM]

3 hours ago, unclefloprry said:

Because it was never that big outside the US

Not even in the US. It was fueled by tidal fake streams. I still laughed every time that I remember that the numbers that Tidal report would have mean all their users streaming the album 24/7 

[Donquizote]

 

 

her streams are pathetic

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Komet]

The excuse I'll never underetand is 'it wasnt on spotify for 3 years!!' like ok? What does that have to do with its daily streams half a decade later?

 

Anyway 25 has always been the correct AOTY winner, time the ultimate truth teller!

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Komet

[Janet]

Everyone left that album in 2017 it seems   

I don't use it at all 

[Badgalbriel]

Lemonade, despite being a good album, is not accessible and didn't produce any hit song. It's very easy to understand why.