Cruel Summer Posted November 9 Posted November 9 Just now, on the line said: I'd love Bernie, but be real electing a 90 year old is reckless. That's the problem. That a literally ancient socialist is the only one that seems actually capable of running with a platform that can turn the tide and bring the working class back into the Democratic coalition should feel like a crisis and should inspire the party to seriously reevaluate its priorities, but instead we're just going to be stuck with some combination of Newsom, Whitmer, Shapiro, and ******* Pete.
45seconds Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) Gavin is a an actual sociopath so he has the chops. I still do wish Kamala raises her profile by running for Governor of Cali in 2026 and then trying again in 2028. I really wanted that black woman president. Edited November 9 by 45seconds
Malkuth Posted November 9 Posted November 9 I think Bernie. He has some overlap in views with Trump (there's a small minority of people who like both). And he's not seen as establishment like Kamala and Biden, he's more of a populist. And he's apologized for the "white people don't know what it's like to be poor" comment so I think that shouldn't be a big issue, hopefully. The best hope is a "RINO" candidate wins the nomination, then Republicans will be toast.
swifthino Posted November 9 Posted November 9 jimmy carter served only one term, roll his ass back into white house! 4
NoisYBoY Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) I'm fully in on Whitmer or Shapiro. I would support Buttigieg 100% but America isn't (and most likely never will be) ready for an f slur president. Edited November 9 by NoisYBoY
chessguy99 Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, Katamari said: Agreed but he's older than trump hes needs a protoge tbh Back in 2004 when did Obama surge to become a potential candidate Actually goes back to 2002. While in the Illinois Senate he had some polling done for a potential US Senate run. When a seat became open, the Republican incumbent and the previously defeated Democrat both declined to run, he took his shot. He won the Democratic nomination in a landslide, mainly due to hiring the top Democratic campaign consultant in Illinois who had party connections all over the state. After that, the Republican nominee got caught up in a sex scandal and withdrew. The replacement ran a terrible campaign. After winning the election with almost 70% of the vote, Obama became an overnight sensation in the national party. You have to remember that Illinois was still considered lean Democrat at the the time, so 70% got the attention of the Democrat money people. After that, it was just a matter of choosing when to go for it. The 2007-2008 financial crisis and resulting recession was his opening and he took it. Edited November 9 by chessguy99
Capris Groove Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) A lot can change in 4 years, but right now, it's someone who: - talks like a populist. No wishy-washy politician speak anymore - is anti-establishment - is anti-war and talks about putting all that military spending back into the pockets of Americans - avoids identify politics - talks about free college education and Medicare - has decisive stances on things - has uninterrupted conversations with people via podcasts and other forms of long media, not edited media Edited November 9 by Capris Groove
Communion Posted November 9 Posted November 9 17 minutes ago, Capris Groove said: A lot can change in 4 years, but right now, it's someone who: - talks like a populist. No wishy-washy politician speak anymore - is anti-establishment - is anti-war and talks about putting all that military spending back into the pockets of Americans - avoids identify politics - talks about free college education and Medicare - has decisive stances on things - has uninterrupted conversations with people via podcasts and other forms of long media, not edited media So who you mean is 3
Capris Groove Posted November 9 Posted November 9 1 minute ago, Communion said: So who you mean is Yes. Adore him. He's just gonna be old as hell in 2028.
Twizzy Posted November 9 Posted November 9 Can't believe people in here are still rooting for Kamala to re-run in 2028 not only did she lose the popular vote by landslide after all those endorsements, she also lost the electoral vote by a landslide. It proves too many people had a problem with her campaign and why would the Democratic party risk the next election trying to reconstruct her when they can just MOVE on.. 2
Communion Posted November 9 Posted November 9 11 minutes ago, Capris Groove said: Yes. Adore him. He's just gonna be old as hell in 2028. Well he's the only populist Democrat left in the entire party backbench, though who knows we'll get new ones if liberals think saying slurs or being white is populism. Populist working class voters don't love *re-reads* Peter Buttigieg or Gavin Newsom. These are caricatures of who educated white women think represent populism. Liberals are trying to put the carriage before the horse, trying to find a figure when nothing is going to work if they do not have someone with the policies. The only time Democrats have galvanized voters in a mass working class movement in the last decade is from someone calling for huge policies like universal healthcare, free college, radically improving people's lives on the most basic bread and butter issues. They will not recreate that without supporting policies like Medicare For All. By making such a "big tent" ideologically, Dem voters have become unaware of what their electeds actually believe and now are unsure of how to deal with how most of their big players are soulless demons who don't support popular economic policies most of the country want and which would solve Dems' populist crisis. Someone from DSA put together this tracker of what Dems in Congress actually sponsor and vote for and I urge people to actually get familiar with what Democrats as an institution believe in to understand how they've fallen so deeply and for the first time in 3 decades lost working class voters. 2
NEX Posted November 9 Posted November 9 1 hour ago, Distantconstellation said: Get out of your twitter pop bubble. This isn't a joke or a game Never used twitter in my life. Jog on
kellebrity98 Posted November 9 Posted November 9 SHA-PI-RO the Democrats need a bit arrogant but charismatic leader like Obama
suneclipse121 Posted November 10 Posted November 10 54 minutes ago, Twizzy said: Can't believe people in here are still rooting for Kamala to re-run in 2028 not only did she lose the popular vote by landslide after all those endorsements, she also lost the electoral vote by a landslide. It proves too many people had a problem with her campaign and why would the Democratic party risk the next election trying to reconstruct her when they can just MOVE on.. She actually has caught up to Trump with the popular vote, still less than him but not by much as originally thought. It wasn't a landslide in that metric. Sadly everything else you said is true. I would've loved for her to be President. I've always rooted for since her first run in 2020. I genuinely like her as a person and I actually thought her policies would've helped people. I want to buy a home in the future so her plan to build more housing and down payment assistance really spoke to me. I actually was excited to vote for her and not just against Trump even though that was a part of the reason of course. She got dealt a shitty hand being vp to such an unpopular President and should've gone through a primary. 3
unbothered Posted November 10 Posted November 10 3 hours ago, Idol_Maniac said: What about Andy Beshear? This is a solid choice
unbothered Posted November 10 Posted November 10 I wouldn't be opposed to Tim Walz running on his own tho.
AvadaKedavra Posted November 10 Posted November 10 (edited) We need someone hot and young and a bully like trump if you want to battle a dragon battle it with a better dragon Edited November 10 by AvadaKedavra
prettyinpink940 Posted November 10 Posted November 10 9 hours ago, halcyonday said: Bridgit Mendler imagine if she's a republican
Mellark Posted November 10 Posted November 10 (edited) For the Dems it seems like it's Andy Beshear, Gavin Newsom, Bernie, hell I'll even consider Tim Walz to run and it sucks that the Harris campaign overlooked him badly. Kamala ain't running in 2028, doubtful of Buttigieg too. The thing is that people in this country are slow (which is a result of education being capitalized) so it is just gonna be someone that gives Trump, which is like simple messaging like: - Republicans messing with your money. You are paying extra for items? Thanks to Trump's tariffs! - Free Healthcare! Gas prices low. - You are getting a stimmy again, to help the economy and to help you! - More Child Tax Credits, get your coins for the children you have! Pop those babies like Bambi on Welfare! For the Republicans, Trump can't run again so they might either have an open primary or have the Trump dynasty continue the legacy with Don Jr or Eric. The thing is that Republicans after Trump, they have nothing to run on the table, which is an advantage for Dems. The Trumpie is gonna reject a Trump-like character. The VP pick will probably be Kari Lake Petty or Nicki Minaj Petty, even. (Trump-Minaj 2028 ticket I guess, Gag City coming into life) Edited November 10 by Mellark
ClashAndBurn Posted November 10 Posted November 10 13 hours ago, Joey307 said: Hoping this is a joke considering she had everything going for her in 2016 and still lost miserably Her record is still better than Kamala Harris, since she won the popular vote. And Joe Biden would have lost even worse than Kamala if he hadn't been unceremoniously booted from the nomination. - Genuinely, there isn't really anyone. The Democrats have no real stars, and their frontrunners (Josh Shapiro, Gavin Newsom) are genuinely awful people that should be nowhere near the nomination. But, knowing how Democrats always flock to the worst, most evil options like they did with Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020, it's hard to see them getting behind anyone other than those two and their campaigns based on austerity and union-busting. 1
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