Arrows Posted October 10 Posted October 10 The Eras Tour is really the standard for tours now. Not just the biggest female tour of all time, but the biggest tour ever. More individuals have seen clips of if the Eras Tour than have ever heard of Blonde Ambition, and if you don't think that's true, you're in a stan bubble… The whole 'eras' concept with associated colors and outfits, the bracelet culture, the poster, the length of the show, the concert film, the Ticketmaster fiasco etc. is all iconic. There's a reason it got Taylor Person of the Year 1 6 4
Uncatena Posted October 10 Posted October 10 The Eras Tour and pretty much any pop show structured like it would not be happening today if it weren't for Madonna (and also Kate Bush)
Uncatena Posted October 10 Posted October 10 5 minutes ago, Arrows said: The whole 'eras' concept with associated colors and outfits, the bracelet culture, the poster, the length of the show, the concert film, the Ticketmaster fiasco etc. is all iconic. There's a reason it got Taylor Person of the Year the Pope and the Vatican personally critizizing her, police warning to arrest her if she performs, religious boycotts and protests, she sponsor of the tour pulling out because of a controversial music video all over a PERFORMANCE >>>> some bracelets, color-coding and a shitty online ticket service 2 4
Jump Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, Uncatena said: the Pope and the Vatican personally critizizing her, police warning to arrest her if she performs, religious boycotts and protests, she sponsor of the tour pulling out because of a controversial music video all over a PERFORMANCE >>>> some bracelets, color-coding and a shitty online ticket service And don't forget Truth Or Dare, the iconic documentary about the tour - was the highest grossing documentary for 10 years after its release - noted as a groundbreaking film for its casual portrayal of homosexuality - had an impact on reality tv - inspired other documentaries such as Strike A Pose. Imagine that…a documentary being made about your documentary Edited October 10 by Jump 2 3
Shaner69 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) Blonde ambition is Iconic but so is the Eras Tour in a commercial way. One shifted rights and thoughts they both shifted albums. Both are amazing events though. Edited October 10 by Shaner69
prettyinpink940 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) The Eras tour is iconic because of its gross and economic impact, the Blond Ambition tour is iconic for pop culture reasons. So they're both iconic in their own ways. Edited October 10 by prettyinpink940
Arrows Posted October 10 Posted October 10 2 hours ago, Uncatena said: the Pope and the Vatican personally critizizing her, police warning to arrest her if she performs, religious boycotts and protests, she sponsor of the tour pulling out because of a controversial music video all over a PERFORMANCE >>>> some bracelets, color-coding and a shitty online ticket service You might confuse being controversial with being iconic. Pikachu is not very controversial, but very iconic. If you wanna discuss politics and conflict, The Eras Tour influenced national legislatures regarding ticket sales in multiple countries, world leaders from Hungary to Chile begged her to come, cities changed their names to honor her, iconic landmarks lit up as a gesture. The tour was also the symbol of femininity and thus angered MAGA incels like Andrew Tate for a year, and even inspired a terrorist plot meant to kill thousands of young girls, though I hardly think that's an equivalent to being 'iconic' Maybe you should make a Wikipedia page about the impact of Blonde Ambition! Impact of the Eras Tour - Wikipedia 1 1
Uncatena Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Arrows said: You might confuse being controversial with being iconic and you apparently don't know **** about Madonna because that tour is iconic because it was controversial AND it set the bar for pop concerts. if you wanna compare Taylor Swift to a cartoon thats your right, but just to note, Ticketmaster being a ****, greedy service has absolutely nothing to do with Taylor Swift and its obvious that countries would want the most economic boosting event of the year to come to their country, that has nothing to do with cultural impact or being iconic. And bringing up Andrew Tate and the terrorist plot is kind of insane? Anyway, that section is on the Blond Ambition Tour page! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond_Ambition_World_Tour#Legacy You should read it sometime, it's quite lengthy! I should mention here that I like Taylor and saw The Eras Tour this year and had a great time. But I also saw Madonna last year, and Taylor will simply never, ever come close to her in terms of concert. Edited October 10 by Uncatena 4 2
Calvin Posted October 10 Posted October 10 The Eras tour is incredibly iconic. Highest grossing tour of all time and It led to one of the biggest peak an artist has ever achieved, gave her TIME's POTY (no other entertainer has ever achieved that). The eras concert film is the top grossing concert film ever. It moved masses, that's IMPACT. Rest you read on Wikipedia. 1
sunbathinganimal Posted October 10 Posted October 10 obsessed with your commitment to setting up Taylor Swift you're doing amazing sweetie 1
Klein Posted October 10 Posted October 10 1 hour ago, HonourableVomit said: Yeah right let's compare Taylor who's managed to galvanize the entire world over her concerts and artistry that is all about the woman experience to ******* Hitler. HonourableVomit indeed. The only thing they have in common is that they'll be in the history books forever. 1
Titanbaddie Posted October 10 Posted October 10 I think Era's world tour will go down as a huge moment and a signifier of Taylor Swift power at her most successful BUT The Blonde Ambition tour is the template that will always be referenced because it was the first of it's kind. You can't discuss touring without mentioning it especially for women. So BAT > Eras
Klein Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Regarding the topic, why can't they both have their crown? Madonna revolutionized touring for female artists, and that can't be erased by anything. On the other hand, The Eras Tour's cultural prevalence cannot be understated. The tour has been everywhere for nearly two years. Positively or negatively, EVERYONE chimed in. It was a WW pop culture event and denying it is just foolish. It was by far the most eventful concert of the 21st century. It's also a bit silly to compare both as Blonde Ambition is more than 30 years old, while The Eras Tour is not even finished. Only time will tell the mark the latter has left on pop music. But the mere fact that these tours are already being compared is very telling. 3 1
Jay07 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) I should have predicted a Swiftie using Pikachu as a frame of reference. Blond Ambition is not iconic because it's controversial, it's iconic because of how accomplished and forward thinking it is. It's the costumes, the choreography, the sets that are iconic, not how many tickets were sold. All these Swift fans keep harping on about is how many people went to see the Eras tour but consumption doesn't make you memorable. Pink has a hugely popular tour. Someone mentioned Ed Sheeran having the record for most popular tour previously. Will those tours be iconic? No, because selling a lot doesn't make you iconic. Being special, not average does. Again, people keep harping about the cultural context and how many tickets were sold and how many tiktoks (lol) were made. But when all that fades away, what remains is the actual piece, the work of art. Can whatever it is Swift does onstage stand on its own as an artistic statement and be admired and analyzed for decades? Ask yourselves that. Edited October 10 by Jay07 3
DevilsRollTheDice Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) As others have said, The Eras Tour is incredibly likely to generate countless knock offs. The Eras Tour is ongoing. You're comparing it to a tour whose influence has already been well observed. As for iconic, ATRL is full of aging gays. I am one of them! Will never intend that as an insult. It's just how this cycle of "iconic" works. The Eras Tour has received more media coverage than any other tour in history. It is by far the most successful tour in history, even adjusted for inflation. In 40 years, gays who were young during its reign will be making mean comments and laughing at the now-young gays online for comparing anything to it. It's how these cycles work. With that said, The Eras Tour made Taylor the first entertainer to win Time's Person of the Year ever and the first billionaire in history to earn it primarily from music. Kinda the peak of cultural AND commercial impact with the most objective measures available to us. ATRL's usual metric of iconic = I personally like it more. Edited October 10 by DevilsRollTheDice
hungrymuffin Posted October 10 Posted October 10 1 hour ago, sunbathinganimal said: obsessed with your commitment to setting up Taylor Swift you're doing amazing sweetie i cant believe people still fell for his bait 1
YourHonesty Posted October 10 Posted October 10 4 hours ago, Arrows said: You might confuse being controversial with being iconic. Pikachu is not very controversial, but very iconic. If you wanna discuss politics and conflict, The Eras Tour influenced national legislatures regarding ticket sales in multiple countries, world leaders from Hungary to Chile begged her to come, cities changed their names to honor her, iconic landmarks lit up as a gesture. The tour was also the symbol of femininity and thus angered MAGA incels like Andrew Tate for a year, and even inspired a terrorist plot meant to kill thousands of young girls, though I hardly think that's an equivalent to being 'iconic' Maybe you should make a Wikipedia page about the impact of Blonde Ambition! Impact of the Eras Tour - Wikipedia And you're confusing popularity with being iconic. Most of that "Impact" page is related to sales, commerce, crowd sizes, and charts… nobody will be talking about 2023 economic activity in Glendale, AZ thirty four years from now. Meanwhile iconography from the Blond Ambition Tour is so embedded in mass culture to this day that you probably don't even realize you're seeing it… Troye Sivan, Dua Lipa, and Kim Petras have all made very obvious nods to it in the past few years and they're just off the top of my head/people I've noticed. Truth or Dare, the tour's accompanying documentary, is in the DNA of every celebrity reality show that exists. The entire Kardashian empire is a byproduct of the Blond Ambition Tour. But the Eras Tour movie sold a lot of tickets I guess? 4 4
SwiftLover Posted October 10 Posted October 10 The Madonna & Blonde Ambition Tour comparison is a WIN for Miss Americana.
tiagol88 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 14 hours ago, YourHonesty said: World leaders begged Taylor to bring the Eras Tour to their countries. They tried to ban the Blond Ambition Tour. Madonna literally shifted culture, no amount of popularity will ever challenge that. Which is interesting because i always say Taylor is the anti-Madonna. One always pushed people's buttons while the other plays it safe for her audience. Thats how they got to be this big. 4
Daddy Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Of course Blonde Ambition is way more important for pop culture than anything Taylor Swift would come up with. 3
Wildcat Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Well, yes. The Blond Ambition cone bra is arguably the most iconic outfit ever worn by a female pop star. And it is still referenced 34 years later - this is Dolce&Gabbana Spring/Summer 2025 Women's Fashion Show 4
Sweetness Posted October 11 Posted October 11 17 hours ago, Jay07 said: I should have predicted a Swiftie using Pikachu as a frame of reference. Blond Ambition is not iconic because it's controversial, it's iconic because of how accomplished and forward thinking it is. It's the costumes, the choreography, the sets that are iconic, not how many tickets were sold. All these Swift fans keep harping on about is how many people went to see the Eras tour but consumption doesn't make you memorable. Pink has a hugely popular tour. Someone mentioned Ed Sheeran having the record for most popular tour previously. Will those tours be iconic? No, because selling a lot doesn't make you iconic. Being special, not average does. Again, people keep harping about the cultural context and how many tickets were sold and how many tiktoks (lol) were made. But when all that fades away, what remains is the actual piece, the work of art. Can whatever it is Swift does onstage stand on its own as an artistic statement and be admired and analyzed for decades? Ask yourselves that. Imagine comparing a tour from 1990 (when the internet was in the early stages, no max inflation) to one in 2024 on how many tickets were sold? At the end of the day Madonna record attendance is 131,000, if we included Brazil 1.6 million people, imgaine if she had spent years on just one tour and what that gross would be. 3
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