Jump Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Both iconic but for different reasons. Blond Ambition changed the way pop girls do their tours and this format is still being followed to this day. It also still gets referenced. Troye Sivan's look on his tour is clearly a nod to Blond Ambition. Even Young Sheldon made a recent reference to Blond Ambition (2:30) The Era's tour is obviously a commercial and media juggernaut that will also go down in history. 6 1
Kimi Posted October 9 Posted October 9 blond ambition is a much better tour, pushed boundaries and set new standards. i mean the pope was cussing her out, right? eras is a bigger cultural and economical event 1
xperience30 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 24 minutes ago, narid said: The Blond Ambition Tour birthed the modern pop concert format. That's the definition of iconic (not minimising the huge success of The Eras Tour).
Badgalbriel Posted October 9 Posted October 9 39 minutes ago, LittleStarmen said: Taylor appears on stage like a cruise ship act underneath some tacky fabrics despite all the resources. The only performances that get viral are about how Mid Taytay is... What a grandpa you are. There's literally no tour in history with morw viral moments than The Eras tour 4 1 17
John Slayne Posted October 9 Posted October 9 every Madonna tour is more iconic and artistically interesting that taylor swift's tours. please 4 5 2
Achilles. Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Concert tours by definition are not really remembered over time except for by fans of the artist / genre in general. It's just a different form of theatre, and theatre is ephemeral by nature. Influence and reputation can endure, and video recordings of the performance, but I don't think any concert tour is an iconic cultural event comparable to blockbuster films, shows, or even sporting events. Even in music, impact and legacy are generally more associated with signature songs, music videos, and fashion than they are with live performance—and most exceptions to that are one off live performances (ie: Vogue at the VMAs or Queen's Live Aid set) or signature moves rather than full tours. 1
Bubble Tea Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Even the concept of "eras" and each album being defined by a reinvention and distinct look and style (which Taylor has never really done other than folkmore) was established by Madonna. 2 9
$ebert Posted October 9 Posted October 9 57 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: What a grandpa you are. There's literally no tour in history with morw viral moments than The Eras tour Ageism is not a cute look, I am not even 30 years old and I know my pop references, it's pop culture. Renaissance Word Tour says hi. As I was saying, Taylor's influence is only reflected within her own fandom. I've never seen a performance of this tour going viral, only bad things, like when the snot, the witchcraft rumor or people criticizing her lack of performing skills. Oh and viral moment does not translate to iconic. The answer to this question is Madonnas tour is more iconic, influential and more impactful than any Taylor tour. 1 7 2
Badgalbriel Posted October 9 Posted October 9 6 minutes ago, $ebert said: Ageism is not a cute look, I am not even 30 years old and I know my pop references, it's pop culture. Renaissance Word Tour says hi. As I was saying, Taylor's influence is only reflected within her own fandom. I've never seen a performance of this tour going viral, only bad things, like when the snot, the witchcraft rumor or people criticizing her lack of performing skills. Oh and viral moment does not translate to iconic. The answer to this question is Madonnas tour is more iconic, influential and more impactful than any Taylor tour. The user that I replied to was the one talking about performances going viral. And your Twitter feed is also your own bubble. So you'll see what you want to see.
YellowRibbon Posted October 9 Posted October 9 The Era of Monoculture v The Era Of Balkanization Of Pop Culture (Part 8173637) During the Madonna days, getting to the top was harder, much harder, but once you got to that place, you had omnipresent-like attention with little competition to fear in the short-term and basically no stars rising out of nowhere overnight. During the Balkanization days, getting to the top is easier thanks to the new ways of connecting with an audience (social media) and streaming services, but once you reach that omnipresent-like attention, a newcomer could replace you in a relatively short span of time. Both are very different because they live in different industry contexts, it eventually comes down to personal preferences 1
By the Water Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Madonna never has and never will come close to Taylor and it's time you fossils accept that 3 2 1 15
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 minute ago, By the Water said: Madonna never has and never will come close to Taylor and it's time you fossils accept that it's Taylor that Madonna has to catch up with dumbass. You know, because she's the best selling female artist of all time. 1 5 1
State of Grace. Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) Blond Ambition is basically the blueprint for every pop show that came afterwards. Eras is literally still going. It's the biggest tour ever and its cultural impact speaks for itself. You'll have to wait and see in 34 years. I think it's a bit unfair to compare a show from 1990 to one that happened at the height of the internet/TikTok/etc. Completely different timelines though. Edited October 9 by State of Grace. 1 1
Sweetness Posted October 9 Posted October 9 People need to learn the difference between iconic and success. You can be successful but that doesn't make what your doing iconic, even people who never seen The Blond Ambition tour has talked about/ssen the cone bars, ponytail, the masturbating segment. Also tours are a moment in time, once there done everyone moves on, there are billions of people in the world and none of them will be seen by most, it's the music that keeps a legacy alive. Taylor has the most vmas but someone like Britney will always be associated with the vmas over her, her moments and her performances were iconic and she has probably has won the least amount of awards there more so than any other major act. 1 3
YourHonesty Posted October 9 Posted October 9 World leaders begged Taylor to bring the Eras Tour to their countries. They tried to ban the Blond Ambition Tour. Madonna literally shifted culture, no amount of popularity will ever challenge that. 3 5
The7thStranger Posted October 10 Posted October 10 You don't have an Eras Tour without the Blond Ambition Tour. 2 2
Oktober Knight Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Yes for the simple fact that the Blond Ambition Tour changed pop concerts forever and was the OG blueprint for making tours theatrical. The Eras Tour wouldn't exist without Blond Ambition. 3
Venice B Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Blonde Ambition literally changed EVERYTHING about pop concerts. Madonna and this concert were pioneers. She changed the game. Be for real. 2 2
LittleStarmen Posted October 10 Posted October 10 5 hours ago, Badgalbriel said: What a grandpa you are. There's literally no tour in history with morw viral moments than The Eras tour CRUISE SHIP ACT 7
Sweetness Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, YourHonesty said: World leaders begged Taylor to bring the Eras Tour to their countries. They tried to ban the Blond Ambition Tour. Madonna literally shifted culture, no amount of popularity will ever challenge that. I mean Brazil paid Madonna over 30 million to do a one time performance and now their talking about doing it annually, another trend she has set and opening up door for others artist like Taylor to make more money. Edited October 10 by Sweetness 4 1
Jay07 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) First of all, the ponytail and cone bra which were key aspects of Blond Ambition are referenced to this day so everyone saying it's not iconic is ignorant as per usual. Secondly, Blond Ambition is influential because of its artistry and boldness, literally pushing the art of live performance in ways that would be replicated for decades. It fused every aspect of Madonna's identity, religion, sex, dance, theater, cinema and created a touring spectacle which was basically unheard of. It's still staggering that she pulled it off. I have not seen any aspect of the eras tour that is similarly impressive or notable in any way other than its attendance I guess which is characteristic of the entire Swift phenomenon. But great friendship bracelets, beautiful friendship bracelets. Edited October 10 by Jay07 6 5
Sweetness Posted October 10 Posted October 10 5 minutes ago, Jay07 said: First of all, the ponytail and cone bra which were key aspects of Blond Ambition are referenced to this day so everyone saying it's not iconic is ignorant as per usual. Secondly, Blond Ambition is influential because of its artistry and boldness, literally pushing the art of live performance in ways that would be replicated for decades. It fused every aspect of Madonna's identity, religion, sex, dance, theater, cinema and created a touring spectacle which was basically unheard of. It's still staggering that she pulled it off. I have not seen any aspect of the eras tour that is similarly impressive or notable in a way other than its attendance I guess which is characteristic of the entire Swift phenomenon. But great friendship bracelets, beautiful friendship bracelets. I mean 5 years ago Ed Sheeran had the biggest tour, that's not long ago and Ed is way past his peak as an artist sells and charts wise. Too much stock has been put into touring when alot of it comes down to mass inflation and how much an artist is willing to tour, imagine what a Beyonce or Madonna tour of 2 years or more would've looked like. 3
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