Solaria Posted October 9 Posted October 9 It can not be denied that the Eras Tour is an unprecedented commercial success, never before has a tour boosted economies and broken so many grossing and addentance records. There will never be a commercially dominant tour like the Eras Tour. But in terms of cultural influence, and the landscape of pop music and performances as a whole, can it be agreed on that The Blond Ambition Tour overshadows it? It said the standard for every female pop tour that followed after it and it was the first time a female pop artist on the scale of popularity that Madonna was on really turned a concert tour into a moving art piece. Does The Blond Ambition Tour overshadow the Eras Tour in this department? Discuss. 9 2
Popular Post ICLDXU4HS Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 Iconic next to not iconic... Iconic is gonna, you know, devour not iconic. 8 3 16 1 1
nostalgic Posted October 9 Posted October 9 The Confessions Tour is more iconic than both put together 9
UrMom Posted October 9 Posted October 9 YES! Madge set the template for pop girl tours, and her looks are literally iconic. 10 2
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Obvi it's literally the template for current tours 8
Popular Post Xtina23 Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 One broke boundaries, while the other made people broke. 1 37
wastedpotential Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) Blonde Ambition certainly established a lot of the "rules" for MPG touring and exerts a lot of influence in that way, but in terms of GP awareness, I can say I'd know basically nothing about it if I wasn't active on this website, even opposed to the general Stan Twitter community which leans a lot younger and doesn't care about a tour that happened so long ago. Maybe for people who were alive to witness it, but for people who don't spend any time talking to mid-30s+ gay men or late-40s+ white women, I don't think so. I mean hell, I just asked and my mom went to one of the shows and I don't think she's ever bothered telling me a thing about it and we've had multiple conversations about her musical interests and cool live shows she's seen. Idk, I think this one really only holds up within a specific bubble. Maybe we'll start seeing viral retrospectives pop up on TikTok, but until then Edited October 9 by wastedpotential 1 8 19
Doctor Dick Posted October 9 Posted October 9 I don't think there won't be an Eras Tour-like smash again. Concert-going has exploded and we forget that the Eras Tour is a literal greatest hits tour unattached to any one era, so the demo for it is even bigger. The sole rumor of Gaga doing an Eras-type tour has even non-fans interested. It simply cannot be compared and I think there will be super successful acts in the future who when they do this could overtake Taylor's tour. Blonde Ambition was still a tour promoting an album. I think it's more iconic and more influential. 2 1 2
Popular Post Capris Groove Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 (edited) Iconic? For sure that's Blond Ambition. The Eras tour is more commercially successful and a huge juggernaut, at a massive music star's absolute peak. It will go down in history for being so long and successful. I think it will also have a place in history as the big example of the world going back to live shows after Covid. But Blond Ambition wrote the blueprint of the modern concert. It was much more artistic and theatrical than live concerts were before it. The stage production was way ahead of its time. It was set in several acts with distinct themes, which concerts still follow today. It was controversial, sexual, and the costumes were more high fashion than concerts before it. In short, Blond Ambition was genuinely groundbreaking. It also gave us the most iconic Madonna look ever, whereas I struggle to think of an Eras tour look. I wouldn't be able to distinguish an Eras tour look from any of her other shows. Edited October 9 by Capris Groove 10 5
Popular Post HASHTAGPOW Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 I have yet to see one iconic performance from the Eras Tour 4 12 4
Feanor Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) It's more influential, but not more iconic. The Eras Tour has been a much much bigger cultural phenomenon than any other tour ever was, from the actual concerts, to the craze it caused in the cities/countries, to social media, movie theaters and the unprecedented way it elevated Taylor's profile and catalog in a manner that has yet to be replicated, even in the current golden age of touring. It's a much more widely recognizable and known tour than the Blond Ambition Tour. Edited October 9 by Feanor 3 6 1 8 6
Doctor Dick Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HASHTAGPOW said: I have yet to see one iconic performance from the Eras Tour I think years of people mocking Taylor for not having an iconic look and then she did this one. Sure, it's mostly famous because it was the most viral moment of the tour and the literal cover of her theatrical release and it's super attached to Cruel Summer but if you dressed up like that and went on the street most people would recognize it's Taylor. That's iconic. Edited October 9 by Doctor Dick 5 5 2 4
Sheep Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) It's an unfair comparison. The first of something will always have more staying power. Love her or hate her Taylor has the biggest tour of all time and it isn't even close. On the whole Madonna was much bigger and more influential but that doesn't mean we can just start erasing Taylors achievements Edited October 9 by Sheep 6
Popular Post HASHTAGPOW Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 5 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: I think years of people mocking Taylor for not having an iconic look and then she did this one. Sure, it's mostly famous because it was the most viral moment of the tour and the literal cover of her theatrical release and it's super attached to Cruel Summer but if you dressed up like that and went on the street most people would recognize it's Taylor. That's iconic. 15
LittleStarmen Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Taylor appears on stage like a cruise ship act underneath some tacky fabrics despite all the resources. The only performances that get viral are about how Mid Taytay is... 9 1 2 5
$ebert Posted October 9 Posted October 9 8 minutes ago, Feanor said: It's more influential, but not more iconic. The Eras Tour has been a much much bigger cultural phenomenon than any other tour ever was, from the actual concerts, to the craze it caused in the cities/countries, to social media and even in movie theaters. It's a much more widely recognizable and known tour than the Blond Ambition Tour. It's only influential to her fans, literally no one cares about it outside her fanbase. We ALL know it exists and it's huge due to her stans, but let's not act like it has cultural impact more than its name. The Blond Ambition tour opened door for a lot of girls performing nowadays and has some of the most iconic looks in history of pop. 8 2
Capris Groove Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Feanor said: It's a much more widely recognizable and known tour than the Blond Ambition Tour. You're comparing a tour that's currently ongoing to one that ended 34 years ago. Will the Eras tour be as 'recognizable and known' in 34 years, as Blond Ambition is today? Because to this day people still recognise the cone bra and high pony, the voguing, and understand sexual and religious controversy to be core aspects of popstardom, with whom they associate Madonna. The Pope getting involved with the tour is also still well known. I'll wait to see how the Eras tour is recognised in 2058, when another tour has long surpassed its commercial success. Edited October 9 by Capris Groove 11
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 23 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: I don't think there won't be an Eras Tour-like smash again. Concert-going has exploded and we forget that the Eras Tour is a literal greatest hits tour unattached to any one era, so the demo for it is even bigger. The sole rumor of Gaga doing an Eras-type tour has even non-fans interested. It simply cannot be compared and I think there will be super successful acts in the future who when they do this could overtake Taylor's tour. Blonde Ambition was still a tour promoting an album. I think it's more iconic and more influential. What does it having to be a greatest hits tour or not have anything to do with the conversation? And why are you bringing up Gaga you insert her in every f*cking conversation even when it has nothing to do with her. 2 1
narid Posted October 9 Posted October 9 The Blond Ambition Tour birthed the modern pop concert format. That's the definition of iconic (not minimising the huge success of The Eras Tour). 1 4
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 26 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: Blonde Ambition certainly established a lot of the "rules" for MPG touring and exerts a lot of influence in that way, but in terms of GP awareness, I can say I'd know basically nothing about it if I wasn't active on this website, even opposed to the general Stan Twitter community which leans a lot younger and doesn't care about a tour that happened so long ago. Maybe for people who were alive to witness it, but for people who don't spend any time talking to mid-30s+ gay men or late-40s+ white women, I don't think so. I mean hell, I just asked and my mom went to one of the shows and I don't think she's ever bothered telling me a thing about it and we've had multiple conversations about her musical interests and cool live shows she's seen. Idk, I think this one really only holds up within a specific bubble. Maybe we'll start seeing viral retrospectives pop up on TikTok, but until then Delusional as if the cone bra, corset, and high ponytail aren't referenced still till this day. And who cares about Twitter? One is 34 years old and the other is still going on. 7
Selegend Posted October 9 Posted October 9 (edited) Honestly i respect Madonna SO SO much, i got the HONOR to see her live this year in Copacabana, Rio, but i don't think so. Madonna has tons of successful tours and they compete with each other in people's memory. Taylor also does but The Eras Tour collapsed everything else, it's THE taylor swift tour and THE decade (or even more) defining tour. For example when i think about Madonna i remember more the Confessions Tour i don't think this happens/will happen with Taylor, and it also is a huge pop culture moment, so... Edited October 9 by Selegend 1 1
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