base talk Flop Off: Harlequin vs 143

[ericcartman]

Both projects flopped, but which flopped more?

 

Katy's album debut with less streams but it has higher average

 

Both artists did plenty of interviews. Katy has multiple singles, videos, radio deals,  VMA. Gaga has performances, playlisting, a current smash hit that isn't related to this project , and is marketed with the yet to be released Joker movie.

 

Gaga has mediocre reviews, Katy was panned.

 

 

 

Which flopped harder?

 

Edited September 28 by ericcartman

[PlERRE]

There's no comparison, however, Harlequin got a big debut, better critics and better scores. Talent always wins.  

 

[Devin]

how is harlequin a flop?

[ChandlerBing]

Kary flopped harder but Gaga fans got it worse, another project no one asked for. 

[bjorn]

I mean no one knows about Harlequin not even her own fan base right? 
 

3 minutes ago, Devin said:

how is harlequin a flop?

hunni did u miss its streaming debut? 
 

BOMBGA 

[Escape]

Neither of these albums is worth fighting for I fear.

[RideOrDie]

143 is the biggest flop of all time

[Colmillo]

What performances does Harlequin have? 

[Devin]

Just now, bjorn said:

hunni did u miss its streaming debut? 
 

BOMBGA 

idc about the numbers of a side project.

 

the fact a side project with vintage pop & jazz covers outstreamed a pop album the label invested $$$ to be a commercial success is wild.

[polygon]

They're both relics from the late 2000s

[ericcartman]

4 minutes ago, Colmillo said:

What performances does Harlequin have? 

Nothing yet, but I saw somewhere she will be performing on one of the night shows 

[Raver]

143 actually flopped so that one 

Edited September 28 by Raver

[TedLasso]

2 minutes ago, ericcartman said:

Nothing yet, but I saw somewhere she will be performing on one of the night shows 

How does a future performance help Gaga's first day streams 

[Almighty Gaga]

16 minutes ago, ericcartman said:

Gaga has performances, 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Colmillo said:

What performances does Harlequin have? 

1 minute ago, ericcartman said:

Nothing yet

 

 

 

Harlequin has 1B streams. It just didn't happen yet.

[Colmillo]

2 minutes ago, ericcartman said:

Nothing yet, but I saw somewhere she will be performing on one of the night shows 

Yeah but that's next week, so it couldn't have an impact on debut numbers 

[ericcartman]

Just now, TedLasso said:

How does a future performance help Gaga's first day streams 

We are talking about the overall project, not just first day. 

[beautiful player]

143 flopped but we expected it to. 

 

Harlequins floppage hit differently - more severely - because of the high expectations and organic hype accompanying it. On a mental level, the flop is more consequential... and sets up Gaga for an interesting redemption arc with LG7. 

[TedLasso]

Just now, Colmillo said:

Yeah but that's next week, so it couldn't have an impact on debut numbers 

I'm actually a billionaire, I just haven't made the money yet 

[LadyFlopga]

Katys album was intended to be her big comeback thats why she crawlew back to the rapist

Gagas album is a cute side project with a dead genre and full of jazz covers

 

YOU tell me

[TedLasso]

Just now, ericcartman said:

We are talking about the overall project, not just first day. 

If you don't understand how stupid what your saying is I'm not even gonna try to help you 

[ericcartman]

1 minute ago, Colmillo said:

Yeah but that's next week, so it couldn't have an impact on debut numbers 

And we can continue to monitor this battle next week and update the numbers once these promo spots come up.

[FrederickGa]

13 minutes ago, ChandlerBing said:

Kary flopped harder but Gaga fans got it worse, another project no one asked for. 

Basically this 

Like enough with the Grandma Covers Gagz 

 

At least HAPPY MISTAKE is excellent tho 

[Mr. Mendes]

15 minutes ago, ChandlerBing said:

Kary flopped harder but Gaga fans got it worse, another project no one asked for. 

You can't speak for us all, a lot of us were very happy with this. 

[Colmillo]

2 minutes ago, ericcartman said:

We are talking about the overall project, not just first day. 

So how can you label the album as a flop when it has been out for only one day? 

[Smarticle]

Katy had comeback hype, Dr. Luke, VMAs Vanguard + most iconic performance? award (), Rock in Rio, Australian Superbowl, a full pop studio album.....so she wins the flop