celeb news Chappell Roan cancels performances last minute

[lgaga1fan]

5 minutes ago, Communion said:

You're claiming people who don't vote are radicalized when a plurality of Americans are non-voters. Privileged people vote. Most non-voters are actually marginalized. Because they feel voting hasn't improved their life. Because politicians don't work to earn their vote.

 

This is why this is all so userious and weird. You're flying off the handle over what *is* scary yet don't see how people can see you're lashing out over a frustration in knowing you can't change Kamala or stop her from making bad choices and so your feelings of feeling powerless manifest in lashing out at other powerless and non-privileged people. 

Assuming people's personal annoyance of the current political landscape stems entirely from frustration in Kamala Harris as a presidential candidate is a very weird argument to make when nobody is arguing about that. YOU chose to bring up talking points, posted headlines without specific links to articles, and charts about elections (not even using recent data), in order to argue ad nauseum about a ******* TikTok from a white woman. Categorizing very obviously democratic candidates and putting them into the same box as literally fascists that want to break democracy in this country is very odd and it sounds like you may be the one that is lashing out in frustration about not being able to change Kamala, not the other users in here 

 

You probably are right that she might not have voted at all because she fit all of the demographics that positively slot into the non-voter chart that is a decade old that you chose to post (White, Uneducated, Low tax bracket). Now think about her position where she could, at the very least, encourage her base to vote and exercise that right (which she didnt do). Why not do so? She's actually the perfect person to do it considering she was in that demographic a few years ago. 

[hallucinate]

well she should cancel ALL her upcoming performances as well, knowing they'll also get cancelled last minute

[Sheep]

45 minutes ago, Communion said:

You're claiming people who don't vote are radicalized when a plurality of Americans are non-voters. Privileged people vote.

 

ctfu I said nothing about nonvoters. I said you've become so radicalized at the same end of the political spectrum as me(that any normal person would also call me an extremely radicalized person at that) that you're continuing to make **** up about me so that you can continue to support a fascist dictatorship that is supposed to be on paper, the complete opposite of everything you stand for. The fact that it took you one post in this thread to COMPLETELY get away from the topic at hand and go into the anti-Kamala tirades did more to prove it than any theatrics you've pulled since.

 

45 minutes ago, Communion said:

This is why this is all so userious and weird. You're flying off the handle over what *is* scary yet don't see how people can see you're lashing out over a frustration in knowing you can't change Kamala or stop her from making bad choices and so your feelings of feeling powerless manifest in lashing out at other powerless and non-privileged people. 

You're the one arguing semantics, putting words in my mouth, and typing in all caps. You're flying off the handle. We all have the power to vote and we all have the power to take a stance against Donald Trump, it's a democracy. The annoyance I felt towards Chappell Roan is the same annoyance I feel towards you and for everybody else who is supporting fascists. Until your favorite candidate wins, we all possess a fractional amount of power to steer the ship. This feels like some very bizarre projection because it's more in line with how you're acting and I'm sorry if you feel powerless but I feel like a normal American with a civic duty that I take seriously. I have in this thread, outside this thread, and will continue to be after she becomes president, critical of Kamala Harris and her policies and by speaking that disagreement at all I will be exercising my power and affirming the currently protected freedoms that your chosen candidate is trying to take away.

 

Liberals do have bad intentions but democrats have proven politically malleable to some degree as long as it supports American hegemony/the proliferation of wealth inequality, this is how somebody like Kamala Harris or Joe Biden can and has gone from openly hateful towards LGBT people, to conceding that voters for both parties majority support advancing our cause. This makes the dems feign support in a play for power and it's proven more beneficial than the alternatives and has in some small way contributed to progress in America. Circling back to what was supposed to be the topic of this thread, this is what made me so put off by Chappell's comments which were so contentious that she is now having a health crisis and needing to miss work because of it. The most important issue to her(and admittedly to me too), the rights of sexual and gender minority groups, is something that one side will work with the majority on. Yes there are majority unpopular stances that Kamala has taken, but of those, Donald Trump supports almost all of them as well, specifically including the desolation of an entire area of the globe so that they can continue to take their little hush money bribes from lockheed martin

 

 

Now to actually respond to the completely off topic, random, and unprompted mention of nonvoters:

Spoiler

The majority of nonvoters per the chart you listed is white, which is the single group you can belong to in the US that brings the largest amount of unearned and unjust privilege. This idea that most nonvoters don't vote because they feel powerless is something you made up and is not reflected by this chart. It does not actually say that the majority of nonvoters are white AND poor AND young AND uneducated all at the same time, this is not how you read this type of graph. It also makes no claims about how empowered voters feel vs nonvoters. Furthermore several of these stats can be attributed to general population distributions and not voting status, which is why these ratios look similar across the board and aren't WILDLY different like you would expect to see under Jim Crow laws, for example.

 

If this is some kind of roundabout admission that you don't plan on voting because you feel powerless, PLEASE register in the next couple weeks while you still can, for the possibility of a leftist future. There is a plan in motion to completely dismantle our democracy and pull up the ladder to a better union. When the bad faith anti-liberal leftist propaganda is completely wiped off the face of the Earth by a successful Donald Trump dictatorship, you will regret not fighting that reality with very cell in your body when you had the chance. My unwavering support for Kamala Harris is as begrudging as you can possibly get but that doesn't mean I would EVER vote against the interest of myself. 

 

In the fight against fascism of any kind, feeling like resistance is pointless means they've already won. You have the power not to let them win.

 

Edited September 28 by Sheep

[LadyFlopga]

And when she does something to herself, yall be like "Omg how could not we see the signs"

FREAKS

Leave her alone!

 

[Communion]

11 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

You probably are right that she might not have voted at all because she fit all of the demographics that positively slot into the non-voter chart that is a decade old that you chose to post (White, Uneducated, Low tax bracket).

"Decade old". It's data from the 2nd to last general election.  Used intentionally because 2020 held uniquely high turnout and experts have already said turnout is going to be lower this year. 

 

Also not "low tax bracket" as a euphanism for poor people. Why does that read as shady? Ndjdjd Sis, just say low income. 

 

You're also reading the graph wrong. Whiteness makes someone more likely to vote. 

 

I'm not sure about her educational background or not. It does though require privilege to trust that voting will result in a positive change in your life. It's clear her lack of enthusiasm and inability to go above and beyond for politicians is rooted in that disillusionment that is found is most marginalized Americans who don't vote. 

[Communion]

10 minutes ago, Sheep said:

ctfu I said nothing about nonvoters.....continue to support a fascist dictatorship

> "I'm not demonizing non-voters!!"

> "Not voting means you're supporting a fascist dictatorship"

 

This is sodjdjdjdnns I don't know if I have it in me to explain how graphs work. 

 

Anyway this is going in circles cause I said it's ****** up she's being harassed and dehumanized for her criticisms of politicians and you and others somehow rebuke the claim she's being harassed at all but also reiterate that her apparent views are actually somehow bad and would actually worthy of contempt (and harassment if it was happening but its 100% not!) djfjdndjdj.

 

Anyways:

 

[Sheep]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

"Not voting means you're supporting a fascist dictatorship"

 

Didn't say this

1 minute ago, Communion said:

you and others somehow rebuke the claim she's being harassed at all

Or this 

 

1 minute ago, Communion said:

her apparent views are actually somehow bad

Or this, I said the conclusion she arrived at was fine but everything before the point we're at rightfully caused a shitstorm

 

3 minutes ago, Communion said:

would actually worthy of contempt (and harassment if it was happening but its 100% not!

Healthy criticism is not contempt and nobody in this thread has advocated for harassment.

 

If you can only make a point by lying then maybe the issue is you. 

[Kimi]

It's like the worst qualities of Lana Del Rey Lauryn Hill and SZA were combined into one person. 

[MasterExpose]

The new Azealia Banks. Mentally unstable but great potential.

[P.O.P]

She is this generation's Demi Lovato 

[Raspberries]

Loved this girl for over a year now, but her constantly running her mouth for the last month or so has made me do a complete 180 on her

 

Yes, there is a conversation to be had about mental health in the pop sphere. But girl, this is not the way to do it. Literally 24-ish hours before you take the stage. People are already en route to the festival specifically just to see her 

 

She will not last unfortunately. She just doesn't seem cut out for the pressures of fame

[The7thStranger]

2 hours ago, Communion said:

Her success is largely seen as a rare accident. 

To be honest, I just think that's a fairy tale. Apart from one or two songs that may go viral on TikTok, random meteoric rises to fame appear to be a thing of the past.

 

The music industry isn't that spontaneous anymore.

[DevilsRollTheDice]

I think it's possible both to have sympathy for her and to recognize that something major needs to change. 

 

I had a ticket to All Things Go and was excited to see her set. Mental health, while a serious concern, cannot be a blanket excuse to continuously not fulfill your commitments. Ultimately, the public will vote with their wallets when she destroys her professional reputation. Personally, I won't risk seeing her again. 

 

Her political comments were tone-deaf and her comments about fame seem incredibly hypocritical. "I hate being famous but I'm going to cancel shows to rehearse for the VMAs!" "I want to be a regular person, but I'm going to continuously do things that make that impossible!"

 

You cannot have your cake and eat it too with fame. I understand her desire to have all the good parts and none of the bad, but nothing in life works that way. This is all totally optional and the result of choices she has made and continues to make. As others have said, she's an adult. 

 

With all that said, she clearly has major mental health issues. BPD is no joke and she suffers from depression as well. I think it's time that she and her team + family sit down and have a frank discussion as to whether this is the right career path for her. Many young lawyers start out in big corporate law but find they can't manage the stress. There are ways for Chappell to have a long, fulfilling musical career without increasing her fame footprint. I wish her the best, but she needs to be an adult and figure this out.

Edited September 28 by DevilsRollTheDice

[Infatuation_Junkie]

The people on her team should be reevaluated. 

[GotMyBlueprint]

2 hours ago, P.O.P said:

She is this generation's Demi Lovato 

Even worse, no longevity in sight for this Midwesterner.

[Patient Zero]

Millions of artists would want her fame and attention. She got it, but it's all complaints after complaints about fame and attention.

 

just stick to soundcloud, don't do interviews and don't sign deals? Problem solved. 

[P.O.P]

20 minutes ago, GotMyBlueprint said:

Even worse, no longevity in sight for this Midwesterner.

Looks like it. According to her fans ''she needs a long break :/''... miss girl has been famous for 5 mins

[Matchatea]

12 hours ago, GipJo said:

I don't think she has much pressure from the industry/label because according to her she got the best deal she wanted out of label contract, I don't think she can be pressured to take gigs she didn't want to do. They can't even pressure her to shoot a music video, even the biggest genz artist Billie had to phone it for her BOAF MV when she clearly didn't want to.

That's something I am super curious about her, label contract 

[ImpressMeMuch]

She can't do it with a broken heart 

[Funnyfatty]

I am so damn tired of this stupid bich like STFU AND LEAVE. Take your disgusting album off the streaming services, DONT PERFORM ANYWHERE, stop promoting and you will be GONE. 
 

she is the first time i'm seeing someone being so ignorant, wrong, loud and pathetic. What an negative, hateful, nasty BICH!
 

She earned maybe millions of dollars, lots of love and respect, good amount of success and her faves praised her and the only thing she is doing is crying and complaining. 
 

The last minute cancel deserves the biggest backlash ever. People book hotels, buy flight tickets and much more for a show by their faves. 
 

She is a pathetic woman, damn selfish and most comfortable rude woman in the industy. She believes that she is always right too when she poooops out all her sh!tty ideas. 
 

her mental health is the pits because she is a terrible person. Not because of her fans or the attention she is getting. 

Edited September 28 by Funnyfatty

[Cloudy]

One would think she would have the stardom level of previous pop girls...girl just retire.

[dlwlrma]

She was so wrong saying "theres problems on both side." But she has the right of not endorse Kamala. It's part of the democratic society, even tho I disagree with her points. 
At least she will vote Kamala, better than part of her fanbase 

I dont like her, but at this point I kinda feel bad  I hope she can recover well
 

[Communion]

9 hours ago, Sheep said:

Didn't say this: "Not voting means you're supporting a fascist dictatorship"

 

9 hours ago, Sheep said:

so you can continue to support a fascist dictatorship

[Sheep]

18 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

Notice how the statement you quoted mentioned nothing about not voting. 

[swissman]

On 9/27/2024 at 6:48 PM, The7thStranger said:

She's an adult. I'm not going to baby her. She would have had to have been extraordinarily naive to not understand what she was getting herself into (was she under a rock during Free Britney?). She came across as so incredibly cocky right out the gate, and now she's buckling under the immense pressure that she put on herself. Meanwhile, there are so many artists who kill to have her level of success and industry support. She's burning through that good will, and it makes it hard to root for her.

 

Also, please show me the exact place in my post where I said she should automatically quit or try not to make it work for her? In fact, I believe I wrote, "She's human. She's young, and that's all okay. I just find her to be a little too much for me. Hopefully she grows up soon." What she needs to do is eat some humble pie and focus on her craft and less on gobbling up as much attention as she can get only to then vomit it up on the rug like a dog who got into the trash can.

The Free Britney movement was more about the terrible nature of the conservatorship than it was about the terrible nature of fame even if that was peripherally involved. And still, I think none of us can know what it's like until we are in it, and no one can deal with it in the same way. She's dealing with it her way and I think that's fine. More than fine, I think she's starting conversations that could do more than simply looking back at 2007 and saying "oh wow we did Britney wrong didn't we?". Someone is TODAY saying "hey this isn't okay! I'm not fine with this" and people are still replying with "suck it up! you're not cut out for this! who cares you wanted to be famous" and what not. Were these people nowhere during the Free Britney movement? If that's a yardstick everyone is measured by?

Also I wasn't necessarily quoting you when I talked about telling her to quit, but just the larger conversation about her at large. If you read any negative comment about her you're bound to find a variation of "well she should quit" in the first handful of comments.