shyboi Posted September 4 Posted September 4 12 hours ago, State of Grace. said: Well, no lies were detected. Kamala is a genocide supporter. But also....pot calling the kettle black. Genius idea though, I'll give them that. And instead of pressuring her to change her policy and tone when talking about Palestine/Israel, you just know the Blue MAGA will still blame Muslims & Arab Americans and gaslight/guilt-trip them into voting for her.
on the line Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) 12 hours ago, Gov Hooka said: If you think that saying "well that guy over there is worse" after Harris is currently overseeing the Gaza Holocaust and still pledging full support to Israel is going to convince those of us anti-genocide that we shouldn't vote third party or abstain, then you're an idiot. Nope, the idiots are the ones sitting out the election and thinking their opinions actually matter and that people should listen to and take them seriously. Tough reality for you, I know. Feel free to take a mental health sick day. Edited September 4 by on the line autocorrect 1 6
on the line Posted September 4 Posted September 4 15 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: That's not the goal behind the ad blitz. The point is to depress turnout for Harris and convince Muslims to not vote at all rather than get them to switch over to Trump Y'all did a good job of convincing yourselves to do this so maybe Trump's team should hire you and your fellow ATRL comrades. Might as well get paid to keep talking about an election daily that you aren't going to actually participate in. 1 6
Virgos Groove Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) 13 hours ago, State of Grace. said: Well, no lies were detected. Kamala is a genocide supporter. But also....pot calling the kettle black. Genius idea though, I'll give them that. And instead of pressuring her to change her policy and tone when talking about Palestine/Israel, you just know the Blue MAGA will still blame Muslims & Arab Americans and gaslight/guilt-trip them into voting for her. Exactly. The blue MAGA folks going "they're just trying to get Muslims to abstain!!1!!" should ask themselves why such attack is so piercing. If simply advertising Kamala's policy on Israel is enough to get thousands of Muslim Americans to not vote, maybe... her supporters should pressure her to change that policy? Shouldn't you want your candidate to be appealing? I can understand (but obviously oppose) politicians ignoring their base for that sweet AIPAC money. But why do centrist Dem supporters like running elections on hard mode? That I don't get. Edited September 4 by Virgos Groove 1
Archetype Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) 12 hours ago, Communion said: I mean, it does. You're trying to ostracize @Gov Hooka for not voting, but the average American is closer to their view on politics than your view as a partisan Democrat. "The rest of us will be in the voting booth". Anyone voting passionately for either Democrats, Republicans, or let alone 3rd party voters are a niche demographic. If we're going by what most people are doing, staying at home is the reasonable and most normal position. The average American isn't closer to the viewpoint of not voting or voting third party because they want to protest-vote Dems, that is an extreme leftist viewpoint that normal people do not share. The avg American just doesn't care enough in general, so while you'll be doing the same "nothing", it's for completely different reasons. Also since when is the "normal" position something an extreme leftist, would even consider to be reasonable? I mean, if you're not going to vote and really want to associate your inaction with being so normal, you should follow suit by removing yourself from political discussions and stop caring just like the "normal and reasonable" people you're directly associating yourself with… because at the end of the day, you're letting other people make difficult decisions for you. Edited September 4 by Archetype 2 1
on the line Posted September 4 Posted September 4 4 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: Exactly. The blue MAGA folks going "they're just trying to get Muslims to abstain!!1!!" should ask themselves why such attack is so piercing. If simply advertising Kamala's policy on Israel is enough to get thousands of Muslim Americans to not vote, maybe... her supporters should pressure her to change that policy? Shouldn't you want your candidate to be appealing? I can understand (but obviously oppose) politicians ignoring their base for that sweet AIPAC money. But why do centrist Dem supporters like running elections on hard mode? That I don't get. Have you missed the massive crowds showing up for each Harris-Walz rally? Have you missed the massive enthusiasm online for Harris-Walz? Have you missed the massive daily polls showing us the writing on the wall? Be for ******* real and log off from your echo chamber. Americans are SO PUMPED for President Harris. 6
ClashAndBurn Posted September 4 Posted September 4 10 minutes ago, on the line said: Y'all did a good job of convincing yourselves to do this so maybe Trump's team should hire you and your fellow ATRL comrades. Might as well get paid to keep talking about an election daily that you aren't going to actually participate in. Literally no one asked you for your excessively arrogant and ignorant opinions, when I've already said I'd already committed to voting for her due to her not picking Genocide Josh as her running-mate. The only thing getting me to reconsider that is the arrogance and constant barrage of personal attacks coming from you and other shitlibs. So... keep it up I guess. 1
on the line Posted September 4 Posted September 4 3 minutes ago, Archetype said: The average American isn't closer to the viewpoint of not voting or voting third party because they want to protest-vote Dems, that is an extreme leftist viewpoint that normal people do not share. The avg American just doesn't care enough in general, so while you'll be doing the same "nothing", it's for completely different reasons. Also since when is the "normal" position something an extreme leftist, would even consider to be reasonable? I mean, if you're not going to vote and really want to associate your inaction with being so normal, you should follow suit by removing yourself from political discussions and stop caring just like the "normal and reasonable" people you're directly associating yourself with… because at the end of the day, you're letting other people make difficult decisions for you. Don't bother. That poster is 100% not living in reality. It took me a hot minute to realize it too. 2
on the line Posted September 4 Posted September 4 2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Literally no one asked you for your excessively arrogant and ignorant opinions, when I've already said I'd already committed to voting for her due to her not picking Genocide Josh as her running-mate. The only thing getting me to reconsider that is the arrogance and constant barrage of personal attacks coming from you and other shitlibs. So... keep it up I guess. LMAO, Pot Kettle Black. If I had extra time this morning, I'd actually go through and post all the replies you've sent me, sis, but luckily for you I have an early meeting today! Clearly I struck a nerve if you went all Trump with this false information tirade. 2
Virgos Groove Posted September 4 Posted September 4 2 minutes ago, on the line said: Have you missed the massive crowds showing up for each Harris-Walz rally? Have you missed the massive enthusiasm online for Harris-Walz? Have you missed the massive daily polls showing us the writing on the wall? Be for ******* real and log off from your echo chamber. Americans are SO PUMPED for President Harris. If that's the case, why are you so bothered by leftists and Muslim Americans not voting for her? If you're so confident in her victory, enjoy it then! "**** you leftists. Kamala has this in the bag! No one cares about your policy proposals. We don't need you!!!!" *five seconds later* "The left is dividing us and will get Trump elected." Which is it then? You are not owed people's vote and your party knows that. It's why they've been platforming Contra death squad supporters and former Trump aides to pander to the Republican vote. If they can make all that effort to appeal to never-Trumpers, they can do the same for leftists and Muslim Americans.
State of Grace. Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: Exactly. The blue MAGA folks going "they're just trying to get Muslims to abstain!!1!!" should ask themselves why such attack is so piercing. If simply advertising Kamala's policy on Israel is enough to get thousands of Muslim Americans to not vote, maybe... her supporters should pressure her to change that policy? Shouldn't you want your candidate to be appealing? I can understand (but obviously oppose) politicians ignoring their base for that sweet AIPAC money. But why do centrist Dem supporters like running elections on hard mode? That I don't get. Thank you. Aren't we literally supposed to always push our candidates to do better? How else are they supposed to win more votes lol? But like that one user above, they will resort to attacking people and calling them idiots because they refuse to vote for a genocide apologist that funds and supports the killing of their families in Palestine. Edited September 4 by State of Grace. 2
on the line Posted September 4 Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Virgos Groove said: If that's the case, why are you so bothered by leftists and Muslim Americans not voting for her? If you're so confident in her victory, enjoy it then! "**** you leftists. Kamala has this in the bag! No one cares about your policy proposals. We don't need you!!!!" *five seconds later* "The left is dividing us and will get Trump elected." Which is it then? You are not owed people's vote and your party knows that. It's why they've been platforming Contra death squad supporters and former Trump aides to pander to the Republican vote. If they can make all that effort to appeal to never-Trumpers, they can do the same for leftists and Muslim Americans. I just find it very ironic some of y'all have dedicated your entire ATRL personalities to this election just to....not vote. And I will continue to call that out and dismiss the opinions and essays of those choosing to not participate in the election. Feel free to put me on ignore if that bothers you. 3
ClashAndBurn Posted September 4 Posted September 4 8 minutes ago, on the line said: LMAO, Pot Kettle Black. If I had extra time this morning, I'd actually go through and post all the replies you've sent me, sis, but luckily for you I have an early meeting today! Clearly I struck a nerve if you went all Trump with this false information tirade. How convenient for you 1
ClashAndBurn Posted September 4 Posted September 4 4 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Thank you. Aren't we literally supposed to always push our candidates to do better? How else are they supposed to win more votes lol? But like that one user above, they will resort to attacking people and calling them idiots because they refuse to vote for a genocide apologist that funds and supports the killing of their families in Palestine. The liberals' playbook since Hillary's candidacy has always been to aggressively insult everyone who isn't enthusiastic about their candidate. Only this time, we've gone from "Medicare For All? You will accept our piddly Obamacare expansion and you will like it!" to "The genocide will continue and your tax dollars will pay for it!" 6
Armani? Posted September 4 Posted September 4 8 hours ago, Princess Aurora said: That makes no sense since the GOP is very pro-Israel lol They're obviously trying to lessen turnout for Muslims & Gen Z, duh lol 1
Princess Aurora Posted September 4 Posted September 4 Just now, Armani? said: They're obviously trying to lessen turnout for Muslims & Gen Z, duh They're not very bright, are they?
Gov Hooka Posted September 4 Posted September 4 3 hours ago, on the line said: Nope, the idiots are the ones sitting out the election and thinking their opinions actually matter and that people should listen to and take them seriously. Tough reality for you, I know. Feel free to take a mental health sick day. So majority of USians many of them overwhelmingly from marginalized communities who routinely sit out elections are idiots??? Mkay the only mentally sick people here are trash shitlibs like you, demonstrating a complete lack of humanity, who can gloss over a genocide. 1
Gov Hooka Posted September 4 Posted September 4 16 hours ago, Archetype said: Cool, go do (or not do) whatever that is while the rest of us go to the voting booths in November to try and prevent Trump from making our lives and those of future generations worse! Oh don't worry. I will be volunteering for the Green Party here in Detroit to let folks know there is a candidate who doesn't support genocide, and those are the folks who have demonstrated some moral and basic human decency to actually care enough about genocide… you're not making lives better, you're actually ******* over the lives of generations of Palestinians (and now marginalized communities in the US because folks like you have zero politics beyond "trump/gop worse" that has allowed the dem party to shift rightward). 1 1
on the line Posted September 4 Posted September 4 28 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said: So majority of USians many of them overwhelmingly from marginalized communities who routinely sit out elections are idiots??? Mkay the only mentally sick people here are trash shitlibs like you, demonstrating a complete lack of humanity, who can gloss over a genocide. Alright. Thanks for letting me know you best to just put you on ignore. Good luck with your delusions. 6
monologueNacafe Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) 5 hours ago, on the line said: LMAO, Pot Kettle Black. If I had extra time this morning, I'd actually go through and post all the replies you've sent me, sis, but luckily for you I have an early meeting today! Clearly I struck a nerve if you went all Trump with this false information tirade. hopefully with a psychiatrist Edited September 4 by monologueNacafe 1 2
Archetype Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gov Hooka said: Oh don't worry. I will be volunteering for the Green Party here in Detroit to let folks know there is a candidate who doesn't support genocide, and those are the folks who have demonstrated some moral and basic human decency to actually care enough about genocide… you're not making lives better, you're actually ******* over the lives of generations of Palestinians (and now marginalized communities in the US because folks like you have zero politics beyond "trump/gop worse" that has allowed the dem party to shift rightward). Great! Keep doing that until the Green Party has any semblance of a chance to win a presidential election, just maybe that will happen before we all croak, or maybe it will never happen at all. We should have more than two major political parties in this country, our system is messed up. But I do live in present day reality, and my vote will at least lead to a better possibility of the progressive ideologies we care about to become reality and, also crucially important, *prevent* significantly worse ideologies from growing and becoming law. Ya'll are starting to sound really dumb by antagonizing people who are going to VOTE for one of the two candidates who will win the election. Critique Kamala all you want for her support of Israel and their genocide, but that is the country you (correct me if I'm wrong) live in. Every electable candidate that doesn't actually support the genocide has no choice but to do and say the same things she is. Everything said in this thread has been plastered all over ATRL for most of the past year, it's not changing anything, no one is moving. Edited September 4 by Archetype
XDNA Posted September 4 Posted September 4 The Blue MAGA insults don't even make sense. MAGA is the extreme Right; if there is a Blue MAGA equivalent, it would be the extreme Leftists in this case. Hello? Do you guys not see the irony? 1
monologueNacafe Posted September 4 Posted September 4 59 minutes ago, XDNA said: The Blue MAGA insults don't even make sense. MAGA is the extreme Right; if there is a Blue MAGA equivalent, it would be the extreme Leftists in this case. Hello? Do you guys not see the irony? MAGA is a cult. That's where the connection is.
ClashAndBurn Posted September 4 Posted September 4 1 hour ago, XDNA said: The Blue MAGA insults don't even make sense. MAGA is the extreme Right; if there is a Blue MAGA equivalent, it would be the extreme Leftists in this case. Hello? Do you guys not see the irony? The fact that you can't even see it shows that you yourself are Blue MAGA 1 1 1
ClashAndBurn Posted September 4 Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Archetype said: my vote will at least lead to a better possibility of the progressive ideologies we care about to become reality Your vote will not do that. Voting for Democrats is merely to preserve the status quo (which has proven unlivable for many people at home and abroad) and to maybe delay worse outcomes that will inevitably happen due to the fact that the Democrats' fecklessness and empty promises can't possibly hold off the threat of fascism forever. 1 1
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