CottageHore Posted September 3 Posted September 3 Well she is and was during the entirety of Biden's campaign. If you have deluded yourself into believing she's suddenly changed her entire mind, you're an idiot With that said, the irony of this when Trump is a vehement Israel supporter and is an even worse option where this topic is concerned. 10 1
Archetype Posted September 3 Posted September 3 So are they trying to get predominantly Muslim populations to not vote? Bc they're not going to vote for Trump if they're single issue voters.
Popular Post State of Grace. Posted September 3 Popular Post Posted September 3 Well, no lies were detected. Kamala is a genocide supporter. But also....pot calling the kettle black. Genius idea though, I'll give them that. And instead of pressuring her to change her policy and tone when talking about Palestine/Israel, you just know the Blue MAGA will still blame Muslims & Arab Americans and gaslight/guilt-trip them into voting for her. 16 1
Sugar-Rush Posted September 3 Posted September 3 Isn't Trump massively pro-Israel too though? How is he any better in this case 2
Gov Hooka Posted September 3 Posted September 3 10 minutes ago, CottageHore said: Well she is and was during the entirety of Biden's campaign. If you have deluded yourself into believing she's suddenly changed her entire mind, you're an idiot With that said, the irony of this when Trump is a vehement Israel supporter and is an even worse option where this topic is concerned. If you think that saying "well that guy over there is worse" after Harris is currently overseeing the Gaza Holocaust and still pledging full support to Israel is going to convince those of us anti-genocide that we shouldn't vote third party or abstain, then you're an idiot. 3 3
Archetype Posted September 3 Posted September 3 1 minute ago, Sugar-Rush said: Isn't Trump massively pro-Israel too though? How is he any better in this case He's significantly worse about it in every way possible, so... like I said above, GOP is likely trying to push some Muslim Americans to not vote at all.
Communion Posted September 3 Author Posted September 3 9 minutes ago, CottageHore said: Well she is and was during the entirety of Biden's campaign. If you have deluded yourself into believing she's suddenly changed her entire mind, you're an idiot This being tea but also... sadly tea :/ The ad they're running:
Gov Hooka Posted September 3 Posted September 3 3 minutes ago, Archetype said: So are they trying to get predominantly Muslim populations to not vote? Bc they're not going to vote for Trump if they're single issue voters. Many Palestinians and their Allies (actual ones not like you faux liberals who claim to be against Israeli genocide then support the ones funding/arming it) are either abstaining or voting third party. 3 2
PoisonPill Posted September 3 Posted September 3 20 minutes ago, CottageHore said: Well she is and was during the entirety of Biden's campaign. If you have deluded yourself into believing she's suddenly changed her entire mind, you're an idiot With that said, the irony of this when Trump is a vehement Israel supporter and is an even worse option where this topic is concerned. They're not trying to get them to vote Trump, they're trying to get them to stay home
Archetype Posted September 4 Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Gov Hooka said: Many Palestinians and their Allies (actual ones not like you faux liberals who claim to be against Israeli genocide then support the ones funding/arming it) are either abstaining or voting third party. Cool, go do (or not do) whatever that is while the rest of us go to the voting booths in November to try and prevent Trump from making our lives and those of future generations worse! 6
Communion Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 Just now, Archetype said: while the rest of us go to the voting booths Sister, I encourage people to vote for anyone and any party at all at any level, but it's delusion to ignore America is not a highly civically engaged nation. A plurality of Americans simply do not vote for either party. The only time this has changed in modern history was with a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic occurring:
JO1s Posted September 4 Posted September 4 15 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said: Many Palestinians and their Allies (actual ones not like you faux liberals who claim to be against Israeli genocide then support the ones funding/arming it) are either abstaining or voting third party. So you want the canidate that said 'finish the job' to win? 2 1
Archetype Posted September 4 Posted September 4 4 minutes ago, Communion said: Sister, I encourage people to vote for anyone and any party at all at any level, but it's delusion to ignore America is not a highly civically engaged nation. A plurality of Americans simply do not vote for either party. The only time this has changed in modern history was with a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic occurring: That has... nothing to do with what I'm saying. But yes, most Americans historically do not vote. If ya'll want to join that yellow section then go ahead 2
Communion Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Archetype said: That has... nothing to do with what I'm saying. I mean, it does. You're trying to ostracize @Gov Hooka for not voting, but the average American is closer to their view on politics than your view as a partisan Democrat. "The rest of us will be in the voting booth". Anyone voting passionately for either Democrats, Republicans, or let alone 3rd party voters are a niche demographic. If we're going by what most people are doing, staying at home is the reasonable and most normal position.
Communion Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Archetype said: That has... nothing to do with what I'm saying. I mean, it does. You're trying to ostracize @Gov Hooka for not voting, but the average American is closer to their view on politics than your view as a partisan Democrat. "The rest of us will be in the voting booth". Anyone voting passionately for either Democrats, Republicans, or let alone 3rd party voters are a niche demographic. If we're going by what most people are doing, staying at home is the reasonable and most normal position.
CottageHore Posted September 4 Posted September 4 2 hours ago, Gov Hooka said: If you think that saying "well that guy over there is worse" after Harris is currently overseeing the Gaza Holocaust and still pledging full support to Israel is going to convince those of us anti-genocide that we shouldn't vote third party or abstain, then you're an idiot. Who are you talking to? I have been nothing but vocal about how I will be voting third party. We can acknowledge two truths without throwing a tantrum, take a walk.
Sergi91 Posted September 4 Posted September 4 4 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said: Isn't Trump massively pro-Israel too though? How is he any better in this case Yes but the goal of the adds is to push Muslim Americans (especially those who live in Michigan) to not vote for Kamala thus securing a Trump victory. The irony is that Trump is worst for Palestinians…
Princess Aurora Posted September 4 Posted September 4 That makes no sense since the GOP is very pro-Israel lol
welham Posted September 4 Posted September 4 6 hours ago, JO1s said: So you want the canidate that said 'finish the job' to win? The current Democratic candidate is literally "finish the job but slower and with platitudes as a cover." This argument is mute. 4
Sprite Posted September 4 Posted September 4 7 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said: Isn't Trump massively pro-Israel too though? How is he any better in this case Remember: there wasn't a genocide in Palestine when he was president
Sprite Posted September 4 Posted September 4 7 hours ago, Archetype said: He's significantly worse about it in every way possible, so... Then where was the genocide under his administration?? That's right... there wasn't!
ClashAndBurn Posted September 4 Posted September 4 12 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said: Isn't Trump massively pro-Israel too though? How is he any better in this case That's not the goal behind the ad blitz. The point is to depress turnout for Harris and convince Muslims to not vote at all rather than get them to switch over to Trump
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