base talk A reminder that Kesha is not the only woman to accuse Dr. Luke of sexual assault.

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

Two nights ago, I was having a ball in a base thread, rejoicing over the "Dressin Up" songstress and "Raising Hope" guest star Katy Perry being in the worst state of her career and deeming it to be karma for working with a man who was accused of sexually assaulting two women. As a victim of rape myself, it's very pleasing to see someone who showcased that they don't think rape to be a serious issue suffer the consequences for their actions. Imagine my reaction when someone, who I won't @ out of respect given that garnering 20 downvotes must've been embarassing enough, responded with a very abrasive comment, accusing me of "making **** up" about Dr. Luke (despite the fact that I've been intensely following this trial since day one and know what I'm talking about).

 

 

Now, I was very much glad to see more than a dozen ATRLers came to my defense as a way to refute that user's false claims about Luke only being accused of sexual assault by Kesha and no one else, but it got me thinking: Why is this not common knowledge? Whenever I see Dr. Luke's "alleged" sexual misconduct be brought up on here or places like r/popheads and r/FauxMoi, I rarely, if ever, see anyone mention that Kesha is not the only woman to accuse Luke of sexual assault. For some backstory, in Luke's defamation lawsuit against Mark Geragos (Kesha's lawyer), Mark's lawyers revealed that Luke had a second sexual assault victim that approached him shortly after he filed Kesha's lawsuit, but she didn't want to come forward publicly. I will list some receipts regarding this matter below:

 

 

While I'm vehemently opposed to the concept of someone questioning the sincerity of someone claiming to be a victim of rape, especially when the victim brings more than enough necessary proof to the table like Kesha did (ex: how she reported the rape to Larry Rudolph almost a decade before publicly accusing Luke, letters from her therapists showcasing that she opened up about the rape, evidence that she frantically spam called those closest to her after waking up from said rape incident, her story remaining consistent from day one etc.), I can somewhat (and begrudgingly) get behind someone being like "Well only one person accused him of sexual assault, people should be free to work with him without receiving backlash or scrutiny.", but the thing is Kesha is not the only woman to accuse him of sexual assault - another woman did as well. I also figured out who this artist is after putting two and two together (as well as having my theory validated by someone reputable) and while I'm not going to disclose her name, I'll just say that I believe her and that she, of all people, would have no reason to lie.

 

When artists like Katy Perry, Kim Petras, Nicki Minaj, and Saweetie work with Dr. Luke, they're ultimately making a statement to both the world and their fanbases: They don't give a **** about Dr. Luke forcing two women to engage in sexual acts against their will. They don't care knowing that by working with them, they're helping rehabilitate his image knowing that he committed unspeakable horrors against women and inflicted lifelong mental trauma upon them that they'll never be able to fully recover from. When Kim Petras is saying she'd "never work with anyone who (she) believed to be an abuser of women", she's saying that Kesha and the dozens of other women who have faced abuse at Luke's hands are lying. When Katy Perry is saying that she's lucky to be living in a "woman's world", she's saying that she's lucky to be living in a world that protected a man who:
 

• sexually assaulted two women. When it comes to Kesha, he raped her twice - the first instance by giving her GHB (the "date rape" drug) in a hotel room and forcing himself inside her when she was passed out and the second instance by drugging her on a plane and raping her until she proceeded to vomit all over herself.
• fatshamed various women until they developed an eating disorder. He continuously fatshamed Kesha by calling her a fridge and berated her weight until she was hospitalized for bulimia nervosa, physically deteriorating to the point where her blood pressure and sodium levels were akin to those found in patients after a heart attack or stroke according to her doctors. He also attached a sticker of a rotisserie chicken to legal papers he placed on her doorstep as a way to further mock her weight struggles, was accused of smacking a fork out of her mouth, and went as far to forbid her from ordering food at restaurants while monitoring her diet. Not only that, but both Becky G and Charli XCX have alluded to Dr. Luke mocking their weight as well, with the former tweeting "U sound like @TheDoctorLuke 😖" in response to a user calling her fat and the latter tweeting that a producer told her she needs to lose weight to become a pop star the same day she was posed with Luke and his friends in a recording studio. He was also accused of fatshaming Kelly Clarkson as well, with those close to her claiming that he mocked her weight on multiple occasions. 
• put Kesha through severe financial abuse to the point where she had to sell her home and her belongings. He initially sued her for over 1/4th of her net worth and caused it to decrease over 80% during the whole duration of the trial given that she was out of work, unable to tour, and spent all her money on lawyers and court fees.
• put Kesha, as well as his other victim, through severe and irreversible emotional trauma. There is not anything else to add here other than if you've been raped and/or sexually abused, it is something that will always stick with you and something you'll never get over it. I've had firsthand experience with rape and various forms of sexual abuse like Kesha (as well as the other accuser) experienced at the hands of Luke and I can only imagine the toll it must've taken on her psyche.
• physically abused Kesha. By her own admission via the court documents, he swung his arms at her and yelled in her face during a meeting that took place at his Malibu house. Curling up in a ball on the floor while fearing for her life, she fled out of the house barefoot in hysterics and had to climb in the nearby mountains so Luke would not find her. She also alleged that Luke threatened to put both her and her family in physical harm if she were to ever open up about the rape and abuse he put her through. 
• openly berated and mocked female pop stars like Kelly Clarkson and P!nk on music forums like FOTP in the early 2000's. He did this after they dared to leave him and/or criticize him, which only further showcases his misogyny and desire to control and abuse women for his own sadistic pleasure and amusement. 

 
The fact that he is still able to get hits and still be permitted to work with A-List pop stars is disgusting and frightening. It goes without saying that he should be permanently blacklisted and unable to work again given that it's well documented he is a violent misogynist who is a threat to women. In a perfect world, he still wouldn't be alive and breathing. How can Katy proudly stand by a man who raped and abused various women when she's not only a woman herself but also a mother? How would she feel if, god forbid, her daughter grew up and a man tried to hurt her the same way Luke hurt other women? How would she feel if it was her sister Sarah? Would she still feel lucky to be living in a "woman's world?"

 

It is objectively insidious and morally bankrupt behavior to proudly and unabashedly associate with a rapist in a post-#MeToo era, especially two years after the world had to witness one of Hollywood's biggest stars abuse his wife through the legal system as a form of vengeance for daring to open up about how she experienced years of sexual, physical, mental, and verbal abuse at his hands (re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard), but even as a former Katy Kat, I'm not shocked she stopped this low and decided to allign herself with a man who ruined the lives of various women who work in the same industry she's in. By working with Luke, they're giving him more access for more women to rape and abuse and that's perhaps the scariest part about all of this. 

To conclude this rather long post, I just wanted to send a thank you to everyone on this forum who have been recently speaking out against certain artists who take pride in currently working with Dr. Luke. As a victim of rape and CSA myself, it's been very troubling seeing grown men on this forum bat for men like Dr. Luke and those who willingly still stand by him in midst of his crimes and abusive nature being public knowledge all for the sake of pOp BawPS!!!11, but I feel safe knowing there are hundreds of users here who want to ensure that survivors of sexual abuse feel safe here while many members are taking a dig at survivors and batting for their perpetrators. 

#MuteDrLuke and stream JOYRIDE 

 

(and thank you to my amazing Animal sisters @TomTomand @Vixen Eyes for bringing some of the necessary receipts I used in this thread to my attention )

Edited August 30 by YourFavoriteWeapon

[Joesuxx]

He also called Kelly Clarkson fat and emotionally traumatised her on multiple occasions 

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

3 minutes ago, Joesuxx said:

He also called Kelly Clarkson fat and emotionally traumatised her on multiple occasions 

I forgot to add that to the bullet point section of my post, I just added it. Thank you

[Radical Pessimism]

#boycottdrlukesrecentwork

[Yawn]

TLDR 

[Princess Aurora]

Ban Dr Puke from the music industry 

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

1 minute ago, Yawn said:

TLDR 

 

[MALAMENTE]

He is a loser

[KatyPrismSpirit]

I think what that user meant by that post is that Kesha is the only person who publicly accused Dr. Luke of sexual assault and that the second rape victim's identity lacks verified evidence. (Which obviously is their right to privacy - but it makes it harder to base as an argument)

[glitch]

I remember joining a discord one of his minions Baby E set up and the way he talked about the whole thing didn't put Like in the most innocent of lights lemme tell you 

[Into The Void]

I've only ever heard Keshas name associated with Luke didn't know there were more victims and not Dr Luke being on FOTP in the past. I don't think most people known the extent of Luke's transgressions including myself who didn't know about 70% of this until reading this OP.

[Reginald]

This guy is so cute 

 

on-topic, Luke sucks!

[réveuse]

16 minutes ago, Yawn said:

TLDR 

You are a foul person.

[KatyPrismSpirit]

1 minute ago, Into The Void said:

I've only ever heard Keshas name associated with Luke didn't know there were more victims and not Dr Luke being on FOTP in the past. I don't think most people known the extent of Luke's transgressions including myself who didn't know about 70% of this until reading this OP.

What I do know is that Dr. Luke has definitely done irreparable harm towards Kesha. He did fatshame her and further her eating disorder so even if the sexual assault remains unproven, there were definitely other forms of emotional abuse in their working relationship. I believe that user in the OP is leaving out an isolated incident where Dr. Luke smacked a fork out of Kesha's mouth and she wasn't allowed to eat in a restaurant too…

[TomTom]

4 minutes ago, glitch said:

I remember joining a discord one of his minions Baby E set up and the way he talked about the whole thing didn't put Like in the most innocent of lights lemme tell you 

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

3 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

I think what that user meant by that post is that Kesha is the only person who publicly accused Dr. Luke of sexual assault and that the second rape victim's identity lacks verified evidence. (Which obviously is their right to privacy - but it makes it harder to base as an argument)

I would've given the user the benefit of the doubt too but go through their post history and there's a bunch of posts alluding to how they think Kesha lied and they downvote a bunch of quotes criticizing both Dr. Luke and Katy. 

 

3 minutes ago, glitch said:

I remember joining a discord one of his minions Baby E set up and the way he talked about the whole thing didn't put Like in the most innocent of lights lemme tell you 

I was there too undercover and was disgusted at the whole ordeal, but Baby E is also the same guy who made a song about ******* an intoxicated woman.

 

3 minutes ago, Into The Void said:

I've only ever heard Keshas name associated with Luke didn't know there were more victims and not Dr Luke being on FOTP in the past. I don't think most people known the extent of Luke's transgressions including myself who didn't know about 70% of this until reading this OP.

I'm respectfully well aware, hence why I mase this thread. People deserve to know the extent of his horrendous crimes and not let people forget about it. 

4 minutes ago, Reginald said:

This guy is so cute 

 

on-topic, Luke sucks!

I've gotten over six messages in the past day asking me who he is (Tom Maden/Jake Fitzgerald from ScreamTV) dd, seems like ATRL got a thing for Latino hunks  

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

3 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

What I do know is that Dr. Luke has definitely done irreparable harm towards Kesha. He did fatshame her and further her eating disorder so even if the sexual assault remains unproven, there were definitely other forms of emotional abuse in their working relationship. I believe that user in the OP is leaving out an isolated incident where Dr. Luke smacked a fork out of Kesha's mouth and she wasn't allowed to eat in a restaurant too…

I forgot about this incident too and will be adding it to the thread. If I forget anything else, can any Animals please remind me?

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

42 minutes ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

I forgot to add that to the bullet point section of my post, I just added it. Thank you

Why did you downvote this babe @Yawn? Are you against people speaking up against abusive men who bodyshame women? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the woman in your avatar recently accused of being anorexic by the media and general public until she had to make a three minute TikTok refuting those claims?

 

 

I figured you'd have sympathy for Kelly falling victim to bodyshaming at Dr. Luke's hands given that your fave has fallen victim to bodyshaming, but alas. Bummer! 

 

Edited August 28 by YourFavoriteWeapon

[Mikeymoonshine]

Yeah when u look into the case it's obvious Kesha is telling the truth. You should of course not call a victim a liar without strong evidence of them being one but even ignoring that there's a lot of evidence on her side as listed in the OP. It's a shame he will most likely never face justice for what he did to her maybe he will for something else one day. There could be other victims who also aren't public other than the one we know about. 

[RideOrDie]

vile! foul! disgusting! 

 

i was also reminded yesterday of the stance fiona apple took against scammys because they nominated dr puke:

 

At the 63rd Annual Grammy Awards, Fetch the Bolt Cutters won the Grammy Award for Best Alternative Music Album, while "Shameika" won the Grammy Award for Best Rock Performance. However, Apple did not attend the ceremony.[68] Three months earlier, in an interview with The Guardian, she stated that she had wished to have been able to celebrate with other nominees in the Best Rock Performance category which, for the first time in history, were all women. However, she changed her mind after the Recording Academy nominated Dr. Luke for his work on "Say So" in the Record of the Year category at the 63rd ceremony. Apple felt that the Academy was hypocritical for that move after having invited Kesha to perform "Praying"—a song about the alleged sexual assault that Kesha had suffered at the hands of Luke—at the 60th ceremony. Apple went on to state that, in case of her victory, her vision was that "I would just get up there with a sledgehammer and I wouldn't say anything, I would take the Grammy and smash it into enough pieces to share and I would invite all the ladies up. My second thought was I wonder if I can get all these ladies to boycott this **** because of Dr Luke."

 

i wish more celebrities would like fiona, kelly and gaga were taking such a stance against dr puke and the industry for their treatment of kesha. especially those who once pretended to be her friend. 

[RideOrDie]

6 minutes ago, Mikeymoonshine said:

Yeah when u look into the case it's obvious Kesha is telling the truth. You should of course not call a victim a liar without strong evidence of them being one but even ignoring that there's a lot of evidence on her side as listed in the OP. It's a shame he will most likely never face justice for what he did to her maybe he will for something else one day. There could be other victims who also aren't public other than the one we know about. 

time is the ultimate truth teller and truth will always prevail. the universe will make sure he and his supporters pay, trust. 

Edited August 28 by RideOrDie

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

2 minutes ago, Mikeymoonshine said:

There could be other victims who also aren't public other than the one we know about. 

I would not be surprised if there were more victims. I remember being in Baby E's (one of the artists signed to his label) private Discord server (the same server where he spent hours mocking Kesha's rape and body) and he claimed that Luke was a womanizer who spent years sleeping with supermodels. Imagine how many of them could've been victims and how many of them he could've potentially paid off. It's all very troubling to think about and makes me nauseous. I hope to God his victims get their justice one day, whether it's another brave woman coming forward or an "unfortunate accident" happening to him. 

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

5 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

vile! foul! disgusting! 

 

i was also reminded yesterday of the stance fiona apple took against scammys because they nominated dr puke:

 

At the 63rd Annual Grammy Awards, Fetch the Bolt Cutters won the Grammy Award for Best Alternative Music Album, while "Shameika" won the Grammy Award for Best Rock Performance. However, Apple did not attend the ceremony.[68] Three months earlier, in an interview with The Guardian, she stated that she had wished to have been able to celebrate with other nominees in the Best Rock Performance category which, for the first time in history, were all women. However, she changed her mind after the Recording Academy nominated Dr. Luke for his work on "Say So" in the Record of the Year category at the 63rd ceremony. Apple felt that the Academy was hypocritical for that move after having invited Kesha to perform "Praying"—a song about the alleged sexual assault that Kesha had suffered at the hands of Luke—at the 60th ceremony. Apple went on to state that, in case of her victory, her vision was that "I would just get up there with a sledgehammer and I wouldn't say anything, I would take the Grammy and smash it into enough pieces to share and I would invite all the ladies up. My second thought was I wonder if I can get all these ladies to boycott this **** because of Dr Luke."

 

i wish more celebrities would like fiona, kelly and gaga were taking such a stance against dr puke and the industry for their treatment of kesha. especially those who once pretended to be her friend. 

Fiona has always stood on business and spoken up for what's right even when she knew that doing so could've potentially put her in grave danger. I always admired her strength so much and she's one of the many artists who got me through the pain and trauma of my own assault. She is such a queen. I'm proud to be a fan  

[glitch]

20 minutes ago, TomTom said:

Omg my screenshot made it onto Pop Tingz 

 

Reminder that SUPERPOWER ***** is @Bicassie

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

1 minute ago, glitch said:

Omg my screenshot made it onto Pop Tingz 

 

Reminder that SUPERPOWER ***** is @Bicassie

@Bicassie Hey girl