ImpressMeMuch Posted Wednesday at 05:21 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:21 PM On 6/25/2024 at 11:58 AM, blackoutbaby said: I love how ominous the thread title is…. damn sis @SmittenCake you deserved this rep lol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junipero Posted Wednesday at 05:37 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:37 PM 8 hours ago, BornUnbroken said: This is an incredibly stupid argument that's been discussed time and time again - Doja Cat signed to him prior to the allegations coming forward. Becky G also found herself in a really difficult situation and obviously can't speak out about anything despite suing him in 2018. And Doja Cat has also maintained distance and shaded him as well. And I say this as someone who doesn't gaf about Doja as a musician. But it's only Nicki and Katy willingly keeping him around in pop. I'd include Petrat in that list too, but she's such a loser that's never even charted on the hot 100 solo she's a non-factor in the industry and barely keeping the lights on at amigo records. Wasn't the lawsuit Becky G filed over Dr. Luke telling her she would get a share of Core Water if she promoted it in her music? Core Water was sold and Becly G sued because she felt she was owed money in part of Core Water being sold and that she said she Dr. Luke told her she had a share in Core; It seems more like a business lawsuit than it is soley about music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applestar Posted Wednesday at 05:43 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:43 PM 4 hours ago, Ethereaaal said: That makes two dumb, desperate, untalented, and morally challenged people then OT: Her reunion with Dr. Luke is not just about her desperation to be relevant again… she also clearly SUPPORTS and LOVES the rapist. Yeah the untalented guy who won a grammy for KMM 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted Wednesday at 05:44 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:44 PM 2 hours ago, Sannie said: Girl, you're in this thread fighting for your life... for a rapist. Do you people have no shame? Isn't he a Dr*ke stan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Posted Wednesday at 05:45 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:45 PM The industry is a big facade. These people all play their roles for gain. That's just me being cynical though. I don't understand how she was supporting Kesha just to do this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenPanty Posted Wednesday at 06:59 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:59 PM 4 hours ago, Damien M said: Agreed. This thread is so unhinged about this whole case. how do you go around calling someone a rapist when it wasn't provable in a court of law? The fact that people on here jump on you solely for using the word "alleged" should say enough. 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO1s Posted Wednesday at 07:14 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:14 PM The fact that quite a few are so intent for defending this washed up rapist producer for a song that sounds dated and unispired as hell is just pathetic. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRidley Posted Wednesday at 08:13 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:13 PM 2 hours ago, BornUnbroken said: Yes it does because Doja is not WILLINGLY working with him unlike some of these other losers. The argument here is that Katy is WILLINGLY employing Lukasz and enabling his behavior. How EMBARRASSING that not only Kesha, but a majority of her female colleagues have taken a stance against him for a multitude of reasons and she decides to employ his ass on her lead single about female empowerment. You katy scats can do all types of mental gymnastics over this issue all you want, but she has shown time and time again what an uneducated, morally corrupt, power hungry, vocally mediocre, corny loser ass white woman she is. No it doesn't. by listening to Doja, you are literally supporting Luke by financing HIM. it doesn't matter if Doja is in a contract or whatever because the outcome is still the same. 2 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonPill Posted Wednesday at 09:11 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:11 PM 5 hours ago, CroNich said: You release how hard is to prove rape in a court of law? Are you seriously saying that every person who has claimed to be raped but may not been able to prove it in a court of law is a liar? Certainly not. But by the same token, the American justice system is based on the presumption of innocence. I do not think that an accusation of rape in a lawsuit is sufficient enough to label someone "a proven rapist" and ban them from public life - or consider any of their professional collaborators guilty by association. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonPill Posted Wednesday at 09:35 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:35 PM 4 hours ago, BornUnbroken said: Yes it does because Doja is not WILLINGLY working with him unlike some of these other losers. The argument here is that Katy is WILLINGLY employing Lukasz and enabling his behavior. How EMBARRASSING that not only Kesha, but a majority of her female colleagues have taken a stance against him for a multitude of reasons and she decides to employ his ass on her lead single about female empowerment. You katy scats can do all types of mental gymnastics over this issue all you want, but she has shown time and time again what an uneducated, morally corrupt, power hungry, vocally mediocre, corny loser ass white woman she is. The reason Doja, Nicki and others didn't get the same backlash as Katy and Kim is because the latter two are white female pop singers with fanbases primarily of woke white millennial women and gays. Urban music audiences generally don't care as much about personal controversies and cancel movements. Chris Brown still has a thriving career with a loyal fanbase that is even majority female. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom Posted Wednesday at 09:41 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:41 PM 24 minutes ago, PoisonPill said: Certainly not. But by the same token, the American justice system is based on the presumption of innocence. I do not think that an accusation of rape in a lawsuit is sufficient enough to label someone "a proven rapist" and ban them from public life - or consider any of their professional collaborators guilty by association. I mean, the presumption of innocence equally applies to Kesha since Kesha was the defendant in the defamation lawsuit which was basically the "main lawsuit" between Kesha and Dr. Luke. If Dr. Luke is entitled to the presumption of innocence of not being a rapist for you, then so is Kesha of not being a vicious liar that made up allegations to get out of a contract (especially given that Kesha spent considerably more time as a defendant compared to Luke). 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonPill Posted Wednesday at 09:51 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:51 PM 8 minutes ago, TomTom said: I mean, the presumption of innocence equally applies to Kesha since Kesha was the defendant in the defamation lawsuit which was basically the "main lawsuit" between Kesha and Dr. Luke. If Dr. Luke is entitled to the presumption of innocence of not being a rapist for you, then so is Kesha of not being a vicious liar that made up allegations to get out of a contract (especially given that Kesha spent considerably more time as a defendant compared to Luke). I don't disagree with any of this. That's why you won't see me (or pretty much anyone) condemning or cancelling Kesha because she was accused of intentionally defaming someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If U Seek Amy Posted Thursday at 12:36 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:36 AM 7 hours ago, ChooseyLover said: Lol at these users still siding with Dr Luke and writing these thinkpieces after he just gave Katy the worst song he's ever produced/written He's not only a bad person but a shitty professional I am not defending the decision to work with him. But we have heard something like 10-15 seconds of the song. Worst produced/written and we haven't even heard the song? Unless you have it in full which by all means hello! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornUnbroken Posted Thursday at 01:13 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:13 AM 6 hours ago, Junipero said: Wasn't the lawsuit Becky G filed over Dr. Luke telling her she would get a share of Core Water if she promoted it in her music? Core Water was sold and Becly G sued because she felt she was owed money in part of Core Water being sold and that she said she Dr. Luke told her she had a share in Core; It seems more like a business lawsuit than it is soley about music. My point is that Becky also has a strained relationship with him, frequently citing that if it weren't for her being able to sing in Spanish, she feared her career would be over at that time. In the suit against Core water she states that Dr. Luke made it clear both directly and implicitly that her ability to have a music career would be directly tied to the promotion of Core water. She had to work through loopholes under Sony's latin division to get a push for her career and hasn't released a Dr. Luke assisted single in either Spanish or English since 2015. It was also very strange that despite having 2 monster hits -bigger hits than some of these English speaking faceless girls get - and multiple high profile collabs in 2017 and 2018 across Latin America and Spain, there were no plans for a debut album to be released - until she dropped the suit the same week her debut album was finally released in October 2019. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornUnbroken Posted Thursday at 01:28 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:28 AM 5 hours ago, OmegaRidley said: No it doesn't. by listening to Doja, you are literally supporting Luke by financing HIM. it doesn't matter if Doja is in a contract or whatever because the outcome is still the same. We're arguing how morally bankrupt Katy is for willingly employing him despite not being contractually obligated to do so. It must be so exhausting being this obtuse, how are you even still alive? The point still stands. Doja and Becky G are exempt from these conversations since they both have expressed frustration in being under his finger and neither want to work with him despite being contractually obligated to do so. If we were to have a conversation about lining his pockets, it'd be a never ending conversation because many songwriters and producers have publishing contracts under his publishing label, prescription songs. His songwriting and producing MLM empire generates him money from every corner of the industry, it's nearly inescapable at this point. It still doesn't absolve Katherine Hudson of being just another morally corrupt white woman that willingly employed him for a 72-OUT, Charli XCX-lite song made for people shopping at Ross and Marshalls. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted Thursday at 01:37 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:37 AM 9 hours ago, TomTom said: Stop embarrassing yourself. https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=D/rxE0742I/wg_PLUS_hh9EXtiQ== Sis, did you lose power or something? @iHype. Why did you stop replying after this? 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChooseyLover Posted Thursday at 03:00 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:00 AM 2 hours ago, If U Seek Amy said: I am not defending the decision to work with him. But we have heard something like 10-15 seconds of the song. Worst produced/written and we haven't even heard the song? Unless you have it in full which by all means hello! Girl, the "AI leak" was real. The clown wore a whole dress with all the lyrics printed on it and were the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junipero Posted Thursday at 06:00 AM Share Posted Thursday at 06:00 AM 2 hours ago, ChooseyLover said: Girl, the "AI leak" was real. The clown wore a whole dress with all the lyrics printed on it and were the same. It was real? It sounded fake because of the tempo keep on bouncing around. I know that Katy has been teasing the lyrics since April way before the snippets arrived. She was on the Billboard Female event thing and even teasing it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChooseyLover Posted Thursday at 06:06 AM Share Posted Thursday at 06:06 AM 5 minutes ago, Junipero said: It was real? It sounded fake because of the tempo keep on bouncing around. I know that Katy has been teasing the lyrics since April way before the snippets arrived. She was on the Billboard Female event thing and even teasing it there. All the lyrics were known for months? That's strange. If that's the case maybe it's fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharGaga Posted Thursday at 06:14 AM Share Posted Thursday at 06:14 AM 3 minutes ago, ChooseyLover said: All the lyrics were known for months? That's strange. If that's the case maybe it's fake It's most likely the demo. There's an HQ ish full version going around and it has backing vocals. It's definitely not AI. Also the chorus Katy posted sounds like a slightly tweaked version of the demo melodically. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChooseyLover Posted Thursday at 06:17 AM Share Posted Thursday at 06:17 AM 2 minutes ago, SharGaga said: It's most likely the demo. There's an HQ ish full version going around and it has backing vocals. It's definitely not AI. Also the chorus Katy posted sounds like a slightly tweaked version of the demo melodically. Well then it'll probably suck ass. It is what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndThenTheCocaine Posted Thursday at 08:07 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:07 AM (edited) How are some of you STILL choosing this ******* hill to die on "but Gag Order FLOPPED Tik Tok FORGOTTEN Kesha fans should STREAM HER MUSIC!!!" log off the internet and find a productive hobby ffs Edited Thursday at 08:09 AM by AndThenTheCocaine 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted Thursday at 10:52 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:52 AM 9 hours ago, BornUnbroken said: We're arguing how morally bankrupt Katy is for willingly employing him despite not being contractually obligated to do so. It must be so exhausting being this obtuse, how are you even still alive? The point still stands. Doja and Becky G are exempt from these conversations since they both have expressed frustration in being under his finger and neither want to work with him despite being contractually obligated to do so. If we were to have a conversation about lining his pockets, it'd be a never ending conversation because many songwriters and producers have publishing contracts under his publishing label, prescription songs. His songwriting and producing MLM empire generates him money from every corner of the industry, it's nearly inescapable at this point. It still doesn't absolve Katherine Hudson of being just another morally corrupt white woman that willingly employed him for a 72-OUT, Charli XCX-lite song made for people shopping at Ross and Marshalls. wake it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbo Posted Thursday at 11:17 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:17 AM 9 hours ago, Communion said: Sis, did you lose power or something? @iHype. Why did you stop replying after this? @iHype. tik tok tik tok 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbsparce Posted Thursday at 11:48 AM Share Posted Thursday at 11:48 AM (edited) I had no idea Gaga and Katy were involved in the Kesha vs Luke ordeal. It's crazy to think that these women had to testify to court for such a serious case and at the same time some gay was creating yet another Applause vs Roar: bigger? thread Edited Thursday at 11:49 AM by dumbsparce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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