Aethereal Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) The gap with Lana and Gaga is too big for Lana to overcome. However Lana's catalog is much stronger than Gaga's though because Gaga was the MCDonalds of music and Lana is the three course meal. Born This Way is a very mid album with some atrocious songs (Scheibe, Judas, Bad Kidz and some more). Artpop is kinda like the worst album by MPGs I have ever heard. Edited May 12 by Aethereal 6 1 12
Riverbank Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Lana makes good music that doesn't have a fast expiration date, for starters 5 1 1
MonsterNavy Posted May 12 Posted May 12 I love both so much but the only thing Lana has on Gaga is metacritic ratings and pretentious gays Gaga has done everything Lana has done and more. And when I say more, I mean MORE and on a bigger scale really happy to see lana finally getting her flowers though she's always been somewhat successful but her streaming success lately, all these festival gigs, her starpower etc she deserves it so much since she singlehandedly changed pop music forever with Born to Die album and up to this day we can still see her influence in pop music 5 2
burninredhot Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Better music and doesn't need gimicks to get people's attention 1
burninredhot Posted May 12 Posted May 12 On 5/11/2024 at 12:48 AM, lgaga1fan said: In a world where BEYONCE, ARIANA GRANDE, LADY GAGA, ADELE, BILLIE EILISH, DUA LIPA (im done naming more) all exist, Lana Del Rey is not #2. Ariana and Bey are arguable but the other 4? Please, Lana's doing great currently and deserves some credit for it
G.U.Y_Del_Rey Posted May 12 Posted May 12 I don't think we have to downplay either of them to elevate the other, both are doing great and focus on different things. 4
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 On 5/10/2024 at 1:40 PM, ThisNihilist said: Talk to me when Lana is a critically acclaimed and sought after actor first please Lol so many singers that aren't "sought after actors" are much more successful than Gaga. Who cares about acting. 1
Infernal Paradise Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Lots of subjective nonsense in this thread about "quality" and "better music" but objectively, by most industry metrics, she hasn't. On 5/11/2024 at 2:35 AM, Pop Fan said: like why would you stan Lady Gaga in 2024 Because she's THE most talented and versatile artist that debuted this century and has two very successful ongoing careers. That's two of just multiple reasons that I can think of. Besides, everyone has their own reasons why they stan particular artists so why is it bothering you so much that Gaga still has a sizable fanbase? Hope this helps 29 minutes ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said: Lol so many singers are much more successful than Gaga ...and clearly the other subject of comparison for this thread, Lana, is not because a quick look at their CM totals shows us: # g# Pic Artist Studio Albums (EAS) Other LPs (EAS) Physical Singles (units sold) Digital Singles (units sold) Streams (EAS) Total EAS 1 80 Lady Gaga 31,215,000 4,790,000 1,570,000 128,860,000 29,597,000 (05/10/24) 85,405,000 # g# Pic Artist Studio Albums (EAS) Other LPs (EAS) Physical Singles (units sold) Digital Singles (units sold) Streams (EAS) Total EAS 1 134 Lana Del Rey 10,255,000 825,000 220,000 24,460,000 29,957,000 (05/10/24) 44,746,000 That's a 40M+ gap that's not closing anytime soon, even if Gaga never releases another album ever again and Lana doubles her output from here on, and this is when Gaga has released only one album and one additional soundtrack single this decade while Lana has released three so far, with another on the way this year plus multiple feats And this is before we get into singles, albums, touring gross, industry awards, iconic pop culture moments etc. which would just make the gap between their overall music careers just wider. But yes, she does have incredible streams and critical acclaim, and now she's slowly upgrading to playing bigger stadiums too so good for her But then again, while these things are great they're certainly not enough to surpass Gaga. Not yet. Interestingly and funnily enough, most real Lana stans here in this thread agree it's a setup except OGHs. 29 minutes ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said: Who cares about acting. Well, considering how many MPGs actually tried their hardest to transition and cross over to acting but failed, including some that ended up getting consistently PANNED for their efforts and winning MULTIPLE Razzies by the end of their filmographies, clearly a lot of them? but I can see why some fanbases would not. Anyways, let me go back to waiting for two of 13x Grammy and Oscar winner Lady Gaga's upcoming projects in entirely different mediums - the stadium tour Chromatica Ball film (out May 25) and the highly anticipated Joker 2 (out Oct 4) 7 1 1
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 10 hours ago, Marry Illusion Glory said: Lots of subjective nonsense in this thread about "quality" and "better music" but objectively, by most industry metrics, she hasn't. Because she's THE most talented and versatile artist that debuted this century and has two very successful ongoing careers. That's two of just multiple reasons that I can think of. Besides, everyone has their own reasons why they stan particular artists so why is it bothering you so much that Gaga still has a sizable fanbase? Hope this helps ...and clearly the other subject of comparison for this thread, Lana, is not because a quick look at their CM totals shows us: # g# Pic Artist Studio Albums (EAS) Other LPs (EAS) Physical Singles (units sold) Digital Singles (units sold) Streams (EAS) Total EAS 1 80 Lady Gaga 31,215,000 4,790,000 1,570,000 128,860,000 29,597,000 (05/10/24) 85,405,000 # g# Pic Artist Studio Albums (EAS) Other LPs (EAS) Physical Singles (units sold) Digital Singles (units sold) Streams (EAS) Total EAS 1 134 Lana Del Rey 10,255,000 825,000 220,000 24,460,000 29,957,000 (05/10/24) 44,746,000 That's a 40M+ gap that's not closing anytime soon, even if Gaga never releases another album ever again and Lana doubles her output from here on, and this is when Gaga has released only one album and one additional soundtrack single this decade while Lana has released three so far, with another on the way this year plus multiple feats And this is before we get into singles, albums, touring gross, industry awards, iconic pop culture moments etc. which would just make the gap between their overall music careers just wider. But yes, she does have incredible streams and critical acclaim, and now she's slowly upgrading to playing bigger stadiums too so good for her But then again, while these things are great they're certainly not enough to surpass Gaga. Not yet. Interestingly and funnily enough, most real Lana stans here in this thread agree it's a setup except OGHs. Well, considering how many MPGs actually tried their hardest to transition and cross over to acting but failed, including some that ended up getting consistently PANNED for their efforts and winning MULTIPLE Razzies by the end of their filmographies, clearly a lot of them? but I can see why some fanbases would not. Anyways, let me go back to waiting for two of 13x Grammy and Oscar winner Lady Gaga's upcoming projects in entirely different mediums - the stadium tour Chromatica Ball film (out May 25) and the highly anticipated Joker 2 (out Oct 4) Thank you for the essay, will not be reading stop living vicariously through a pop star who doesn't care about you. OT: Lana outlasted! And my generation (Gen z) prefers her! Sorry if that hurts the millennials in here. Edited May 13 by UseYourIllusion2002 2 5
CottageHore Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Because Lana didn't pimp herself out to big pharma and has always stayed true to who she is. I used to stan Gaga so hard because she was individual, interesting, and boundary pushing. Now, she's boring, obsessed with money, and her music has been lacking in quality with every new release. Lana only gets better with time and she's very influential 1
kudmips7890 Posted May 13 Posted May 13 6 hours ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said: Thank you for the essay, will not be reading stop living vicariously through a pop star who doesn't care about you. OT: Lana outlasted! And my generation (Gen x) prefers her! Sorry if that hurts the millennials in here. Guess more than two lines of words hurts your brain It's a pop music forum. We're all living vicariously, YOU INCLUDED OT: Gaga was never surpassed by Lana! And one of the previous generations (Gen x) loves her! Sorry if that hurts some members in here. 1 1
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted May 13 Posted May 13 2 hours ago, kudmips7890 said: Guess more than two lines of words hurts your brain It's a pop music forum. We're all living vicariously, YOU INCLUDED OT: Gaga was never surpassed by Lana! And one of the previous generations (Gen x) loves her! Sorry if that hurts some members in here. No I just really don't give a **** to read a huge paragraph. And not EVERYBODY is. Some people here don't have their thoughts and efforts revolving around ATRL 1 1
єѕℓαм Posted May 13 Posted May 13 You just had to get miss Rey dragged, insulted and humiliated like that wow
dumbsparce Posted May 13 Posted May 13 Lana may never reach the highs of Gaga's career (neither the lows) but her influence is still going strong to this day while the Gagapasta ended in 2010, 2 years after her debut. Her career is continuously building and she still feels current rather than a thing of the past. 1 1
ThisNihilist Posted May 14 Posted May 14 On 5/12/2024 at 11:34 AM, UseYourIllusion2002 said: Lol so many singers that aren't "sought after actors" are much more successful than Gaga. Who cares about acting. Me.
Pop Fan Posted May 14 Posted May 14 (edited) Lana is artistically leagues above Gaga and most critics/music nerda would agree. It's very telling that Lana never went commercial and she's arguably bigger than Gaga in 2024. The 3 biggest pop stars at the moment (Taylor, Billie and Olivia) are all huge stans of Lana and constantly praise her...there is currenlty not a single relevant artist praising Gaga Edited May 14 by Pop Fan 1 2
Pop Fan Posted May 14 Posted May 14 NFR is better and more acclaimed than Gaga's entire discography. That isn't shade to Gaga, it's just objectively true. 1 1
FlyOnTheWall Posted May 14 Posted May 14 To be fair, Lana kinda has surpassed a lot of the girls atrl stans for, not only Gags, so
Pop Fan Posted May 14 Posted May 14 5 minutes ago, FlyOnTheWall said: To be fair, Lana kinda has surpassed a lot of the girls atrl stans for, not only Gags, so True, she's also above Dua and Ariana artistically and culturally
Raspberries Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Lana is a bigger streaming force and she has a more acclaimed catalog. She also has more interesting things to say in her music Gaga is a bigger name, but it is evident her passion for music has dwindled in the last decade
nhatpb Posted May 15 Posted May 15 On 5/13/2024 at 1:59 AM, UseYourIllusion2002 said: Thank you for the essay, will not be reading stop living vicariously through a pop star who doesn't care about you. OT: Lana outlasted! And my generation (Gen z) prefers her! Sorry if that hurts the millennials in here. haha you loose this debate. Your fav can get more streams, more recog by GP than before. Then you should happy for her instead of dragging down other artists. I bet you been very bitter of Gaga's success
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