MonsterNavy Posted April 29 Posted April 29 the fraudulence, payola, autoplay that hybe/bts does is not normal "their label is just doing label things" and its 1 song with 20+ nonsense versions just for the artist to look "popular" and chart high in the west BTS and hybe are so hungry for white people's validation its comical and this is just 1 member's fraudulence mind you. the other members and the group's fraudulence is too much 5 2 2 1
MonsterNavy Posted April 29 Posted April 29 @Eternium change the title to "BTS' label admits payola and fraudulence" for that hit thread sis. Ktrl doesnt know what a hybe is ddd
BTS Posted April 29 Posted April 29 1 hour ago, MonsterNavy said: the fraudulence, payola, autoplay that hybe/bts does is not normal "their label is just doing label things" and its 1 song with 20+ nonsense versions just for the artist to look "popular" and chart high in the west BTS and hybe are so hungry for white people's validation its comical and this is just 1 member's fraudulence mind you. the other members and the group's fraudulence is too much You're contradicting yourself here. If they were truly fraudulently manipulating the charts they wouldn't need to release so many versions to chart higher. They would just use the payola you're speaking of The fact they release multiple versions only proves that they rely on real streams & real sales. These are genuine promos not fraudulence. 1
MonsterNavy Posted April 29 Posted April 29 (edited) 7 hours ago, BTS said: You're contradicting yourself here. If they were truly fraudulently manipulating the charts they wouldn't need to release so many versions to chart higher. They would just use the payola you're speaking of The fact they release multiple versions only proves that they rely on real streams & real sales. These are genuine promos not fraudulence. this is just one example of BTS and HYBE fraudulence. relying on multiple versions of songs = streaming farms they also do fraudulence in an autoplay way giving HYBE/BTS songs higher fake streams. and their connection with Scooter Braun is another proof of that call it whatever you want "label just doing their job" or "payola" its the same thing Edited April 29 by MonsterNavy 3 1 1
Cain Posted April 29 Posted April 29 ….what is that tweet supposed to mean? And why are you talking about Spotify/streams when the tweet does no such thing? 1
Windy Day Posted April 29 Posted April 29 why are bts stans still ignoring the fact that this morning news literally stated that the court document mentioned charts manipulation?? 4
MonsterNavy Posted April 29 Posted April 29 14 minutes ago, Cain said: ….what is that tweet supposed to mean? And why are you talking about Spotify/streams when the tweet does no such thing? hybe paying for their artists' luxury brand deals, spots on award shows, music festivals slots etc still doesn't ring a bell for you? 4 1
Blanket Posted April 29 Posted April 29 Duhh… look at Taylor they all have her albums so explain why 1 2 3
aesthetic bih Posted April 29 Posted April 29 4 hours ago, Sheep said: The entire industry is pay to play worldwide, what do you think "promotion" is? Payola/sajaegi is a form of marketing, marketing is a form of sajaegi/payola. Payola/sajaeji is illegal right? Payola is a form of marketing, but not the other way around, because marketing is broad - it may be legal or fraudulent - To no one's surprise...
Windy Day Posted April 29 Posted April 29 7 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said: Payola/sajaeji is illegal right? Payola is a form of marketing, but not the other way around, because marketing is broad - it may be legal or fraudulent - To no one's surprise... yes it's illegal. according to the court document, hybe defended themselves claiming it was marketing but the court ruled it was illegal charts manipulation 3
aesthetic bih Posted April 29 Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Windy Day said: yes it's illegal. according to the court document, hybe defended themselves claiming it was marketing but the court ruled it was illegal charts manipulation Why would they even use this when it's common knowledge that chart manipulation is FRAUDULENT, even a person without a marketing degree knows that 1
aesthetic bih Posted April 29 Posted April 29 41 minutes ago, Windy Day said: why are bts stans still ignoring the fact that this morning news literally stated that the court document mentioned charts manipulation?? They are the masters of manipulation and truth bending themselves so... 1
Windy Day Posted April 29 Posted April 29 5 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said: They are the masters of manipulation and truth bending themselves so... it's actually insane how the propaganda even reached atrl multiple channels reported it on the news today but they're ignoring that and are claiming it's just forums comments anything that fit their narrative ig 5
aesthetic bih Posted April 29 Posted April 29 3 minutes ago, Windy Day said: it's actually insane how the propaganda even reached atrl multiple channels reported it on the news today but they're ignoring that and are claiming it's just forums comments anything that fit their narrative ig BTS fans are claiming that people reporting about the COURT RULING for hybe's chart manipulation is a form of defamation against the company . I'm being serious that glorified cult needs to be certified, their delusion knows no bound 1 1
Sheep Posted April 29 Posted April 29 (edited) 33 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said: Payola/sajaeji is illegal right? Payola is a form of marketing, but not the other way around, because marketing is broad - it may be legal or fraudulent - To no one's surprise... Those practices were banned decades back because of their anti-competitive nature, but we've reached a point where other forms of marketing are just as essential to large scale success and have the same negative effects that payola/sajaegi do. Big 4 privilege would still be very real even if HYBE wasn't doing sajaegi. Edited April 29 by Sheep 1
Saintlor Posted April 29 Posted April 29 58 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said: hybe paying for their artists' luxury brand deals, spots on award shows, music festivals slots etc still doesn't ring a bell for you? They pay for luxury brand deals?
Windy Day Posted April 29 Posted April 29 12 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said: BTS fans are claiming that people reporting about the COURT RULING for hybe's chart manipulation is a form of defamation against the company . I'm being serious that glorified cult needs to be certified, their delusion knows no bound the thing is BTS wouldn't even be in the conversation if their fans didn't insert themselves in to blindly defend hybe like a CULT hybe is literally getting exposed for being linked to a literal cult right now and they saw BTS fans blindly defend them so now they're throwing BTS under the bus to save themselves and the news headlines suddenly changed to "BTS linked to a cult" and "BTS sajaegi accusations" while the word "hybe" suddenly disappeared from the conversation 2 3
aesthetic bih Posted April 29 Posted April 29 16 minutes ago, Windy Day said: the thing is BTS wouldn't even be in the conversation if their fans didn't insert themselves in to blindly defend hybe like a CULT hybe is literally getting exposed for being linked to a literal cult right now and they saw BTS fans blindly defend them so now they're throwing BTS under the bus to save themselves and the news headlines suddenly changed to "BTS linked to a cult" and "BTS sajaegi accusations" while the word "hybe" suddenly disappeared from the conversation 1
BellKat Posted April 29 Posted April 29 17 minutes ago, Saintlor said: They pay for luxury brand deals? Friend, read again the first post, no where does it says NewJeans were paying for luxury brand deals. No way people are falling for this. In the first place, as people already explained, the screenshot come from a random comment wrote in a korean forum and it only implies HYBE has booked performances which is normal promo. The "paying" luxury brand deal was added by Blackpink fans just above, which have been harassing multiple artist for merely sharing the same brand deal with the Blackpink members. This is just a new way to justify their unhinged behaviour Now they are here sharing videos in full korean, with no subtitles once again, taking advantage of the language barrier. As I said, unhinged behaviour 4
Windy Day Posted April 29 Posted April 29 29 minutes ago, Dialamba said: The fumes and lies A SM stan talking about manipulation as far as i know, sm isn't the one being on the NEWS with proofs from a COURT document for charts manipulation. we will drag sm rightfully if they get exposed, until then, stop deflecting and stay on topic 12 minutes ago, BellKat said: Now they are here sharing videos in full korean, with no subtitles once again, taking advantage of the language barrier. As I said, unhinged behaviour no shade but maybe you should learn a few words of korean if you want to get your informations on reputable news outlets in order to speak on that particular subject instead of getting your news from r/BTS and "pannkpop" 1
Feanor Posted April 29 Posted April 29 Booking your artists awards show performances, festival slots and magazine coverage are all standard things every label/agency does. If that's payola, then every artist, including the OP's fave Britney Spears have payola'd careers. 2 1
Punky Rooster Posted April 29 Posted April 29 I don't trust anything to do with streaming, all it takes is a little cheque to Spotify and you suddenly have hundreds of millions of streams. 1
Margaux Posted April 29 Posted April 29 3 hours ago, Saintlor said: They pay for luxury brand deals? yes i mean. how does a group that hasn't even debut yet (illit) be invited to paris fashion week😭 https://www.koreaboo.com/news/hybe-group-illit-fashion-week-debut-before-debut-netizens-react/
WildOne Posted April 29 Posted April 29 DO yall understand that three major labels have ownership in Spotify and that Spotify more or less has to do what they want in terms of playlisting? ALL our favs are "payola'd" on playlists and any label that isn't pushing their artists on playlists isn't doing its job.
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