RandomHooker Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, ImpressMeMuch said: add them together to get 8/10! counting is fun! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 12 hours ago, vale9001 said: The olivia rodrigo comparison. I have read everything . This album have been made way more than guts. Olivia Rodrigo doesn't have any kind of personal sound. There is literally nothing sounds like that if not "piano ballads". Of course true for Lana. She is really inspired by her but makes pop songs from it. Your posts are always such an LOL moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted April 23 ATRL Moderator Share Posted April 23 The Jack critiques are fair but some of these are dumb. She's openly inspired by Lana but she isn't ripping her off on this album because she sings in her lower register. And as for the "copying Olivia/Ariana", Taylor wrote these songs before those came out. And even if she didn't, they're not the only ones allowed to write about that stuff! Besides, Ariana's felt more aimed at the media where Taylor's feels more aimed at fans/listeners. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsidoraMarí Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 I'm not a fan of Lana's music but I do love what Taylor's done with the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shelter Posted April 23 Popular Post Share Posted April 23 Why are Swifties mad about reviews though? Do you want the next album to be the same with Jack? This will push her to try something different. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay07 Posted April 23 Popular Post Share Posted April 23 29 minutes ago, MissedTheTrain said: The Jack critiques are fair but some of these are dumb. She's openly inspired by Lana but she isn't ripping her off on this album because she sings in her lower register. And as for the "copying Olivia/Ariana", Taylor wrote these songs before those came out. And even if she didn't, they're not the only ones allowed to write about that stuff! Besides, Ariana's felt more aimed at the media where Taylor's feels more aimed at fans/listeners. It's not just the lower register, Lana's songs have been very quiet, intimate, almost stream of consciousness on her albums post NFR and I think Taylor is trying to emulate that vibe but it's just not working. Lana's songs are honestly harrowing, speaking about her mental health, her family, death, medication, her deepest most innermost thoughts and fears. Taylor is honestly too narcissistic and too superficial to go that deep so it just ends up sounding hollow plus she uses this bizarrely flowery language that I think she thinks sounds literary but it just makes everything sound like a middle schooler using a thesaurus. Lana is so direct and almost uncomfortably confrontational, she rips those wounds open. Meanwhile Taylor talks about Matty Healy and Kim Kardashian. Stream Kintsugi. 12 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie.Valdez Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, ForgottenSoul said: You people act like Taylor went out of her to have a similar sound to anyone of them when she really has no need to? If anything she copied her self Also, Jack worked with Lorde,Lana is it really a surprise he has a similar sound? Taylor has been copying Lana since Wildest Dreams She can only wish to be as talented as Lana though.. Lana is too complex and isn't afraid to write about true messed up trauma not some high school romances, holding hands and meeting behind the mall. Edited April 23 by Richie.Valdez 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted April 23 ATRL Moderator Share Posted April 23 25 minutes ago, Jay07 said: It's not just the lower register, Lana's songs have been very quiet, intimate, almost stream of consciousness on her albums post NFR and I think Taylor is trying to emulate that vibe but it's just not working. Lana's songs are honestly harrowing, speaking about her mental health, her family, death, medication, her deepest most innermost thoughts and fears. Taylor is honestly too narcissistic and too superficial to go that deep so it just ends up sounding hollow plus she uses this bizarrely flowery language that I think she thinks sounds literary but it just makes everything sound like a middle schooler using a thesaurus. Lana is so direct and almost uncomfortably confrontational, she rips those wounds open. Meanwhile Taylor talks about Matty Healy and Kim Kardashian. Stream Kintsugi. See I disagree. Their writing styles are super different, and Lana has some songs where she's straight up giving a stream of consciousness like Fingertips. There's an element of unfiltered venting to Taylor's stuff on this album but she's never gone that unfiltered. I guess I can see the influence, but I see the differences between their styles and don't see it as "ripping her off". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherocks Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) I get him. I really respect Taylor and enjoy some of her albums, but I still haven't finished this one, which is not a good sign for me personally. There are just too many moments that throw me off in almost every single song. That Charlie Poop line alone almost made me want to rip my eardrums out However, the Swifties seem to love it which is very obvious looking at the numbers. I wonder how this can be explained though, cause I haven't seen it happening with another album or artist in the way that it's happening now. It's quite puzzling. Edited April 23 by ontherocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespertine Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 13 hours ago, Diesel is Desire said: The song imgonnagetyouback - Olivia Rodrigo literally already did this same wordplay concept on get him back! with her latest record. They're actually both copying Fiona Apple, but Fantano is too clueless to know that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay07 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Just now, MissedTheTrain said: See I disagree. Their writing styles are super different, and Lana has some songs where she's straight up giving a stream of consciousness like Fingertips. There's an element of unfiltered venting to Taylor's stuff on this album but she's never gone that unfiltered. I guess I can see the influence, but I see the differences between their styles and don't see it as "ripping her off". I don't think it's ripping off either, that's just buzzwords to get clicks. But I do think she is influenced by her to mixed results. I said it in a different post but I think Taylor is at her best when she sticks to the big pop hooks and not when she tries to go more freeform and confessional like on this album. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesuxx Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 12 hours ago, PoisonedIvy said: "Lana recorded this song that was never released and Taylor copied it" ??? This is a conspiracy theory at best. We have no evidence Taylor hears Lana's unreleased music. We also know the main reason Taylor veered into folk-adjacent songwriting is because of her love for "The National" and her reaching out to Aaron Dessner. The through-lines are very public knowledge. And Taylor did not "accessorize" Lana at the Grammys They're friends who attended and enjoyed the evening together, and since Lana wrote on the album Taylor brought her on stage for the win, which was the lesser of two evils when compared to the alternative of letting her remain seated where people could have fumed about -that- even more than they fume about her being invited on stage. Recorded the song and then sent it to Taylor's long term collaborator to rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisuke Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 He's right and actually still too nice to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive_Teardrop Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Lana is a FAR superior lyricist and song creator than TS sorry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandalous Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 ohhhh TS12 is about to be Rep 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punisher Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, Vespertine said: They're actually both copying Fiona Apple, but Fantano is too clueless to know that olivia obviously took the concept from this cause she's openly praised and supported fiona. but taylor has never mentioned fiona, and the anthology was probably recorded after GUTS release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson! Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 6 hours ago, TitanicSurvivor said: His moustache receives 0.5/10 from me and so? Does this worth its own thread? his legs receive 10/10 from me and worth too many threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.U.Y. Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 At least Fantano talked about the songs instead of rating Taylor's persona. 2 hours ago, Jay07 said: It's not just the lower register, Lana's songs have been very quiet, intimate, almost stream of consciousness on her albums post NFR and I think Taylor is trying to emulate that vibe but it's just not working. Lana's songs are honestly harrowing, speaking about her mental health, her family, death, medication, her deepest most innermost thoughts and fears. Taylor is honestly too narcissistic and too superficial to go that deep so it just ends up sounding hollow plus she uses this bizarrely flowery language that I think she thinks sounds literary but it just makes everything sound like a middle schooler using a thesaurus. Lana is so direct and almost uncomfortably confrontational, she rips those wounds open. Meanwhile Taylor talks about Matty Healy and Kim Kardashian. Stream Kintsugi. We've reached a point where people can get away with this kind of drag about Taylor, but something much less offensive about that lady on a horse can result in instant WPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharGaga Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 These nobodies becoming reputable critics because they give bad reviews to big artists just for clicks. Embarrassing! I'm not even reading it. It just feeds their ego. The title alone made me cackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.U.Y. Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, SharGaga said: These nobodies becoming reputable critics because they give bad reviews to big artists just for clicks. Embarrassing! I'm not even reading it. It just feeds their ego. The title alone made me cackle. He has been doing reviews for a while and he's not that bad, but some of his analysis are atrocious like this one: Seven years later, he admitted that he was wrong about MAYA: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezik Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 To say that Taylor is ripping off Olivia and Ariana just proves he has no business critiquing music. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th Time Around Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SharGaga said: These nobodies becoming reputable critics because they give bad reviews to big artists just for clicks. Embarrassing! I'm not even reading it. It just feeds their ego. The title alone made me cackle. Not you acting like he does not give positive reviews to big artists all the time He just feels like this album sucks and he is not alone in that opinion. Taylor needs to stop working with Jack for awhile, his obession with washed out, cheap 80s production ages her music poorly. The anthology stuff with Aaron Dessner is much stronger, hopefully negative reviews help push her into a new direction for the future Edited April 24 by 4th Time Around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberries Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Richie.Valdez said: Taylor has been copying Lana since Wildest Dreams She can only wish to be as talented as Lana though.. Lana is too complex and isn't afraid to write about true messed up trauma not some high school romances, holding hands and meeting behind the mall. Talking about artists copying as a little monster Truly unhinged 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Mkay I watched the second video (and suffered through that awful character again) and agreed again with everything, but y'all are actually here accusing him of misogyny lololol. Unreal. He said Jessie Ware's What's Your Pleasure was literally his album of the year in 2020…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punisher Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said: Mkay I watched the second video (and suffered through that awful character again) and agreed again with everything, but y'all are actually here accusing him of misogyny lololol. Unreal. He said Jessie Ware's What's Your Pleasure was literally his album of the year in 2020…. and 2019 was Charli XCX's self titled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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