PoisonedIvy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 4 minutes ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said: he's given most Lana albums great scores, including a 9/10 to her latest effort Ultraviolence was her best album up until NFR & Tunnel. He reevaluated it saying he was too harsh originally and STILL only gave it a 4. His opinions are unreliable more often than they are valid. As a music critic you should be able to admit when you were wrong if you're revisiting something, and yet he did not because he is prideful and pious. 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedIvy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 3 minutes ago, lillavend3r said: The fact he has praised taylor several times but he's only misogynist when he badly reviews her y'all need to look up what misogyny really means and realize y'all fave weaponized that to shelter herself from criticism He's always been a misogynist, unrelated to Taylor. Even -when- he praises Taylor, he's still a misogynist and his opinions aren't credible. I don't do white feminism so don't try to derail my point. Also his version of "praise" for Taylor has always been condescending. But that's neither here nor there. Edited April 23 by PoisonedIvy 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selfloathingpoet Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 21 minutes ago, Sugden said: i need to know the score Same, I think is going to be a strong 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmaisacat Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Is Taylor is ripping off Lana then why can't I get through a single Lana album since BTD? make it make sense also ripping off Olivia Rodrigo? Wtf is even that? Olivia is a mix of Taylor, Lana and every other millennial girly before her 1 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punisher Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 4 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: Ultraviolence was her best album up until NFR & Tunnel. He reevaluated it saying he was too harsh originally and STILL only gave it a 4. His opinions are unreliable more often than they are valid. As a music critic you should be able to admit when you were wrong if you're revisiting something, and yet he did not because he is prideful and pious. ultraviolence is not this masterpiece you're putting it out to be lol… you can enjoy it but it isn't even close to her recent efforts he revisited something and still didn't like it, a music critic shouldn't lie either lmaooo 7 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarajukuPrincess Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Side note; I didn't know Jack was from FUN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Jacobs Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) He's incredibly brave for saying Taylor copied Olivia I'm scared for his life right now. Edited April 23 by Johnny Jacobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lillavend3r Posted April 23 Popular Post Share Posted April 23 1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said: I don't do white feminism Taylor does though 3 minutes ago, Karmaisacat said: Is Taylor is ripping off Lana then why can't I get through a single Lana album since BTD? She literally ripping off the folky singer songwriter stuff (NFR, Chemtrails, Ocean Blvd) don't flatter her, Taylor could never pull a BTD 21 12 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmaisacat Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 2 minutes ago, lillavend3r said: She literally ripping off the folky singer songwriter stuff (NFR, Chemtrails, Ocean Blvd) don't flatter her, Taylor could never pull a BTD So Taylor can't do folky singer stuff without it being a rip off? What happened to trying different genres? Did she copy the melody, lyrics or is just that genre off limits to her for some reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 He spilled. The album is bad. But that character he does is not funny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedIvy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 9 minutes ago, punisher said: ultraviolence is not this masterpiece you're putting it out to be lol… you can enjoy it but it isn't even close to her recent efforts he revisited something and still didn't like it, a music critic shouldn't lie either lmaooo UV absolutely is a masterpiece, there's a reason it's highly acclaimed and widely considered her best album up until NFR. Like, you can't hear West Coast, Shades of Cool, Ultraviolence, Cruel World, Old Money, etc and tell me that album is a 4 out of 10. Not to mention his score for Preacher's Daughter by Ethel Cain? The man wouldn't know good music if it smacked him up side the head. Anyway music is subjective and critics are historians if nothing else, so they at least need to get your references right and, to claim Taylor is copying Olivia, who is quite bluntly a carbon copy of Taylor with sprinkles of Lorde, Avril, and Lana stirred in, is ludicrous. 4 minutes ago, lillavend3r said: Taylor does though She does and I'm aware of that. That has nothing to do with her music, which is what critics should critique. Not the person/celebrity/businesswoman. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedIvy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 9 minutes ago, lillavend3r said: Taylor does though She literally ripping off the folky singer songwriter stuff (NFR, Chemtrails, Ocean Blvd) don't flatter her, Taylor could never pull a BTD Naming 2 albums that came after folklore & evermore And the one album that came before them isn't "folksy" at all, it's got so much alternative rock influence.. like Taylor isn't out here making copies of Venice ***** or Doin Time (as much as I wish she were) She absolutely is influenced by Lana but that doesn't mean she's copying anything these days. The two occupy pretty different lanes, sonically & lyrically & vocally. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmusicisdead Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 49 minutes ago, LVP said: He better hide his big thighs cause Swifites are coming for him! he can hide his **** and ***** in my mouth for safekeeping o.t. DADDY spilled too hard i'm afraid 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xperience30 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 The man who gave FETCH THE BOLT CUTTERS a 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellebrity98 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 7 minutes ago, popmusicisdead said: he's giving typical atrl taylor swift hater energy Edited April 23 by kellebrity98 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaram Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 23 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: He's always been a misogynist, unrelated to Taylor. Even -when- he praises Taylor, he's still a misogynist and his opinions aren't credible. I don't do white feminism so don't try to derail my point. Also his version of "praise" for Taylor has always been condescending. But that's neither here nor there. You called him now three times a misogynist, but still no receipts for him being one. Maybe you are just bitter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingWitch Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Im always here for some Jack Antonoff wacking, let me step aside so they wack him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedIvy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 4 minutes ago, xperience30 said: The man who gave FETCH THE BOLT CUTTERS a 7? Thank you, I knew I was forgetting another of his crimes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedIvy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Just now, Zaram said: You called him now three times a misogynist, but still no receipts for him being one. Maybe you are just bitter If you're familiar with his videos you'll understand he does not respect the female point of view. He invalidates and undermines it more often than not. It's just a pattern you pick up on when you watch enough of his critiques. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesuxx Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 5 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: Naming 2 albums that came after folklore & evermore And the one album that came before them isn't "folksy" at all, it's got so much alternative rock influence.. like Taylor isn't out here making copies of Venice ***** or Doin Time (as much as I wish she were) She absolutely is influenced by Lana but that doesn't mean she's copying anything these days. The two occupy pretty different lanes, sonically & lyrically & vocally. I mean tbf there are songs on them that were written in and before the NFR sessions so their point still stands. Yosemite on COCC was literally recorded in 2016. The comparisons are there, and they are valid. The way TS accessorised LDR at the Grammys should tell you that she'll have no issue lifting inspo from her. Especially seeing as she remade the Ride MV for IKYWT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedIvy Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Just now, Joesuxx said: I mean tbf there are songs on them that were written in and before the NFR sessions so their point still stands. Yosemite on COCC was literally recorded in 2016. The comparisons are there, and they are valid. The way TS accessorised LDR at the Grammys should tell you that she'll have no issue lifting inspo from her. Especially seeing as she remade the Ride MV for IKYWT "Lana recorded this song that was never released and Taylor copied it" ??? This is a conspiracy theory at best. We have no evidence Taylor hears Lana's unreleased music. We also know the main reason Taylor veered into folk-adjacent songwriting is because of her love for "The National" and her reaching out to Aaron Dessner. The through-lines are very public knowledge. And Taylor did not "accessorize" Lana at the Grammys They're friends who attended and enjoyed the evening together, and since Lana wrote on the album Taylor brought her on stage for the win, which was the lesser of two evils when compared to the alternative of letting her remain seated where people could have fumed about -that- even more than they fume about her being invited on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Both Sides Now Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 There are some spills there. Mostly about Jack. Their partnership is stale and holding her back. Not really sure about the copying aspect? Most of the music sounds like a rethread of her own work. I guess this album's lyrics has a sense of self-deprecating wittiness that Olivia leaned into with Guts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkLover1989 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 How is she copying Ariana and Olivia?? She has been talking about breakup and cheating before they even debuted This is forced hate 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 36 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: He's a raging misogynist who couldn't make an album if he tried, and his opinions are wrong more often than not. This is the man that gave Ultraviolence a "4" but I'm supposed to believe he respects Lana and wants to defend her artistry? Yea sure ok …he gave Lana's most recent album a 9 people really need to stop crying "misogyny" every time Fantano gives a pop girl a bad score. He's praised the latest works of Beyonce, Mitski, Caroline, The Last Dinner Party, and Olivia, just to name a few. He isn't a misogynist because he hated TTPD and it's not like he hates Taylor. He gave Folklore and Evermore 7s. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, Diesel is Desire said: Ariana already wrote the angry at my audience for dragging me over my boyfriend anthem-of-the-year with yes, and? Not even a defense of Taylor, but this is stupid? The 'people can talk, but I will do whatever I want' theme has been done by literally almost every pop artist that has ever held a microphone Anyway, similar to Hasan Piker, I'm convinced people who give this man's opinion any value (besides maybe having a fetish for bald heads) are morons. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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