Bussea Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) they want to force a backlash/downfall era on her so bad. most of the people who have so much to say only listened to the album once and tried to force a whole narrative / claim everyone else's negative opinion as their own the album gets better and better with more listens. music as a whole is actually enjoyable when you don't have a bunch of annoying biased homosexuals whining about pannings, who copied who, sales, asking wHeRe aRe dA BOpS aRe and have an attention span greater than a rock. Edited April 22 by BLΔCKP!NK 6
I. AX Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Its a really bad album. I was not expecting this from Taylor. 1
Paultea Posted April 22 Posted April 22 20 minutes ago, .Odyssey. said: Because some of us gO OuTSiDe and our friends and family think the album is absolutely mid. Get away from the critics and go talk to PEOPLE. People do not like this album. You must have lots of "family and friends" interested in pop music to be able to take polls and gather opinions like this. Most of the "people" I know, who I consider locals (family, old friends, people from hs) either don't know anything about new music or are just raving about this - like they would any other Taylor album since folklore. I've also yet to see the overwhelming negative opinions coming from the "people" that aren't part of the online echo chamber. She's just wayyyy too big right now to get an accurate read of what the general public think of an album. She's mythologized her life to a point where a lot of the public will be interested in whatever she puts out. I think both sides online are quite annoying: one trying to prove how everyone hates this vs. one trying to show how acclaimed it is. BOTH are exaggerating it to a laughable degree.
Feanor Posted April 22 Posted April 22 35 minutes ago, .Odyssey. said: Because some of us gO OuTSiDe and our friends and family think the album is absolutely mid. Get away from the critics and go talk to PEOPLE. People do not like this album. The "PEOPLE" are streaming the album like no other. No need to rely on individual, subjective experiences when we have such an effective and objective metric that shows us what the people as a collective audience decide to listen to. 4 1
geodude Posted April 22 Posted April 22 I've just came to the conclusion that this album was made for Swifties. she doesn't even have to innovate or change her sound because her fans will quite literally eat up anything she releases. 6
Strawberry Bubble Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Time is the ultimate judge. While Artpop and even Prism were widely criticized in the past, they now have many fans who praise them. I always believed Taylor's new album would face backlash due to overexposure, regardless of its quality.
ZIVERT Posted April 22 Posted April 22 ATRL? Going post-truth? Running away with their own narrative not based in reality? Never! 1 2
Kassi Posted April 22 Posted April 22 The album is nowhere near panned, especially for a pop album. It's just not being revered as a masterpiece nor hailed as a momentous project — which is the normal state of affairs for most pop records. I think people are doing the most because Swifties are always going on about Taylor's genius songwriting to offset her lack in other areas (namely vocal talent) and so haters are gleefully using this album to violate that narrative. I personally don't think there's ever been anything particularly genius about Taylor's songwriting. But it has, however, been consistent, enjoyable, and relatable… until these last two albums where there's been a noticeable dip in song quality and album construction. I think the thought of her being placed back into the basic pop b*tch category, despite her success (see: Katy Perry), is both alluring to her haters and unnerving to her stans. TLDR: Stans need the universal acclaim to defend her artistry (and success). Haters need the panned reviews to detract from her artistry. The truth is somewhere in the middle. 1
burninredhot Posted April 22 Posted April 22 1 hour ago, JC. said: For all the defending you stans do for this rich and successful woman, I hope she gives you a discount on her next overpriced tour tickets or merch. Can you guys stop with these half *** communist takes.. literally every member on this forum favours atleast one pop girl and defends them in threads 1
LastGreatBloodline Posted April 22 Posted April 22 according to swifties other pop girls' 70s are panned scores so it's only fair their fave is judged by the same logic
FolkLover1989 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 19 minutes ago, LastGreatBloodline said: according to swifties other pop girls' 70s are panned scores so it's only fair their fave is judged by the same logic Most of Taylor albums pre 2020s are in 70s Which Swiftie told you they are panned? Panned is album in 50s and 60s that almost all ypur fave have
LastGreatBloodline Posted April 22 Posted April 22 4 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: Most of Taylor albums pre 2020s are in 70s Which Swiftie told you they are panned? Panned is album in 50s and 60s that almost all ypur fave have were you not around when positions was released? I'm not saying an album in the 70s is panned because it obviously isn't, just pointing out the hypocrisy.
CandleGuy Posted April 22 Posted April 22 2 hours ago, .Odyssey. said: Because some of us gO OuTSiDe and our friends and family think the album is absolutely mid. Get away from the critics and go talk to PEOPLE. People do not like this album. It's going to be one of the most consumed albums of all time "People" must really be forcing themselves to listen to music they don't like then. 1
SuperCiC1 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Her stans truly cannot deal with the fact that she has finally released an album most people don't like. The irony she announced this at the GRAMMYs like the conceited RAT she is. 4
SuperCiC1 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 12 minutes ago, CandleGuy said: It's going to be one of the most consumed albums of all time "People" must really be forcing themselves to listen to music they don't like then. "but but NUMBERS but CRITICS" and the material is still MID 1
CandleGuy Posted April 22 Posted April 22 1 minute ago, SuperCiC1 said: "but but NUMBERS but CRITICS" and the material is still MID You're the one that keeps saying 'most people don't like it' as more people stream it than any other album ever released before it. Make it make sense buddy 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted April 22 Posted April 22 pop albums getting 5-6/10 was literally the norm back then below 80/100 is the new 60 these days
cloudbusting Posted April 22 Posted April 22 and some of the people deflecting in here have spent years getting a good giggle about Chromatica's 79 objectively no, it's not panned, but it's critical reception is undeniably more lukewarm than anything else she's released in like at least half a decade. if you enjoy the album, that's all that should matter. none of the noise should bother you unless you get your personal validation through someone else's achievements 2
Relampago. Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) I don't know why people are so obsessed with saying critics opinions don't matter but then write essays like this either validating the critics' opinions if they're good or invalidating them if they're bad The fact of the matter is, Taylor's popularity is skewing her reviews both ways. She's getting inflated scores because she's the biggest star in the world and will drive traffic to these websites giving positive reviews and likewise there are contrarian critics giving worse scores just to be anti-Taylor. Realistically, I really don't think the album is her best work, and as someone who could release an album full of her using the toilet and still smash, I would have hoped she'd take more risks with this album. However, her core fanbase seems to love it and that's all that really matters. People should be allowed to share their negative opinions though, as long as they aren't relentless with it. Let the Swifties enjoy the music and let the critics leave their critiques and move on. All this discussion of "everyone's obsessed with dragging her!!! Unhinged haters!!" to the actual unhinged haters who are trying to make this album seem like a critical bomb are all annoying. People need to learn how to let others live and have different opinions, and that goes both ways, as everything revolving around Taylor has for the past 2 years. Edited April 22 by Relampago. 1
gustavothehuman Posted April 22 Posted April 22 The actual score is more like 56 or 66, you forgot to factor in that many critics are afraid to give Taylor a bad review due to death threats. 1 1
Edit0rz Posted April 22 Posted April 22 It's an objectively bad album, it fails lyrically (cringe), narratively (immature) and sonically (boring). What does it do successfully, quickly? 1
Digitalism Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Probably because the swifties have been attacking anyone that says the album is bad for a few days now. 1
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