ZeroSuitBritney Posted May 8 Posted May 8 (edited) It's so amusing seeing certain members, specifically one, constantly talk about the "violence and antisemitism" against Jewish students at these encampments while constantly ignoring that the majority of these encampments are led by Jewish students and groups and the fact that the majority of these encampments have been peaceful until police or counterprotestors arrive and cause havoc. Isn't it funny how they completely ignored what the pro-Israel mob did at UCLA the night prior to the destruction of the encampment by cops, where they attacked those in the encampments for seven hours while enforcement just watched and laughed, which led to many students being hospitalized? Crickets. It's quite pathetic that one of the users with the most posts in this thread is just here to deliberately cause havoc and trigger anti-genocide users. It's time to stop feeding the trolls. Start ignoring these clowns who clearly are here to get under our skin. Their incorrect opinions don't matter. Regardless of what these encampments accomplish or do not accomplish, the people of Gaza are seeing the solidarity and it is giving them at least a glimmer of hope. And honestly, that is more of a reason to keep these encampments rolling out. Edited May 8 by ZeroSuitBritney 4 2
BionicWooHoo Posted May 8 Posted May 8 On 5/6/2024 at 8:44 PM, Espresso said: So much for judges being impartial to current events, huh?
Both Sides Now Posted May 8 Posted May 8 The (non-US) University I research at has agreed a total divestment from UN blacklist and arms manufacturers, and Israeli companies after students set up an encampment last week. We are also cutting all academic ties with Israeli Universities. Thank you to the US students for starting this global movement. No doubt, US institutions will be the last to concede like with South African apartheid but the students will win 7
Kassi Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Quote On social media, partisans on both sides cherry-pick extreme comments or incidents as a way to suggest that their opponents are comprehensively rotten. Others invoke broadly held values—free speech, peaceful protest, human rights—without explaining how they apply in specific circumstances. And many of the media stories have only worsened the confusion, by employing imprecise and euphemistic language that obscures more than it illuminates. This lack of clarity may be especially damaging to people who both oppose Israel's actions in Gaza and want to see long-term peace—a group long marginalized by Israel hawks and expansionists—but who may also find themselves surprised and troubled by the stated objectives of many of the groups leading the protests. And there is a growing risk, as the backlash to the protests grows both more violent and more litigious, that the extreme claims, demands for ideological purity, and rejection of nonviolence advanced by some of the protest leaders will undermine a movement that many liberals agree is morally urgent. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/05/israel-gaza-war-protest-movement/678303/ 2
Communion Posted May 8 Posted May 8 2 hours ago, Kassi said: 5 hours ago, Kassi said: Are 280 Zionists worth more than 700 non-Zionists just like how Zionists claim the lives of 900 Israelis killed on 10/07 matter more than 35,000 Palestinians killed following? Genuine shameless trolling on your end. 2
Kassi Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Arguably, the lack of clarity in the protesters' demands might be better than if the general public knew they were primarily pushing to dump Big Tech stocks. Keeping things a bit murky stops their strategy from seeming shortsighted and helps maintain the seriousness of their support for Palestine. It probably also means their movement will fizzle out sooner rather than later as it fails to materialize any tangible wins. What these kids don't understand is that investing is fundamentally aimed at generating financial returns, whereas philanthropy focuses on social impact without expecting financial gains. Universities manage endowments primarily to support their missions by maximizing financial returns, which often precludes the riskier, less proven financial paths of impact investing — which is where protestors want to steer universities. While impact investing tries to align investments with ethical or social values, it doesn't suit the larger, more risk-averse portfolios of institutions like universities due to its complexity, higher risks, and the smaller market of suitable investments. Hence, university endowments are not likely to shift dramatically towards impact-driven strategies, as such moves could jeopardize their financial stability and long-term ability to fund educational programs. I give it two more weeks. 4
Communion Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Friendly reminder - there is no such thing as a "religious homeland". Such rhetoric is quite literally extremist. 4
Kassi Posted May 8 Posted May 8 15 minutes ago, Communion said: Are 280 Zionists worth more than 700 non-Zionists just like how Zionists claim the lives of 900 Israelis killed on 10/07 matter more than 35,000 Palestinians killed following? Genuine shameless trolling on your end. It's sad to see that the principles of "safe space," "hate speech," and the idea that "words are violence," often championed by the far left, seem to have been set aside. 1
ZeroSuitBritney Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Israel has rejected 11 ceasefire / hostage exchange deals since October 7. 3
Dante Silva Posted May 9 Posted May 9 I think these students are awesome and a credit to their generation. Supposedly these are the largest scale U.S. student demonstrations since the 1960's. I welcome this early yet pivotal sign that the youth of America are rediscovering and re-embracing anti-capitalism, peace and free love ☮️✌️ 6
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