album Taylor Swift - 'THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT'

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  On 7/22/2024 at 6:00 AM, Popboi. said:

2011-2012 was worse tbf, the slurs galore, the cocky Little Monsters, Directioners casting death spells on Taylor cause of her dating Harry…

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nnn I think the absolute worst of it was right after the boat pictures in 2013, but you're right in that it was pretty rough for a few years there 

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  On 7/22/2024 at 8:27 AM, Klein said:

This. I'm still surprised she released it in spring going into the summer instead of the usual Q4 because it fits this season a lot more. 

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Honestly, I think she just had to get it out as quickly as possible because it really didn't reflect where her life had become, so it was just best to put it out and move on 

[Dear Reader]

I love hearing your stanning stories cause it throws me back to those years too 

[Enrique523]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:14 PM, Dear Reader said:

I love hearing your stanning stories cause it throws me back to those years too 

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Please tell us some stories too, we'd love to hear more mess 

[hoax]

  On 7/22/2024 at 9:26 AM, Enrique523 said:

@wastedpotential and @1989, thank you guys for your stories, you just gave me SO MUCH war flashbacks from the early 2010s when i was EXTREMELY messy myself online in the name of Taylor. I still am to some degree but not to the same extent 

 

And yeah, i was also holding on for dear life to THAT Safe and Sound performance, it's permanently graved in my brain as a result of using it so many times. I knew it wasn't her only good vocal performance at the time but i still used it a lot because it was easy 

 

The thing is: things have changed a lot since then, Taylor has definitively imposed her supremacy over all of her peers so i don't feel the need to defend her as voraciously as i used to. I'm motivated by hatred of OTHs these days, back then i was more motivated by hatred of her pop rivals themselves since i was still slightly insecure about the future of Taylor's career compared to some of her peers (especially Gaga and Rihanna, i NEVER could stand those two even to this day ).

 

A part of me still can't believe how insanely well things have turned out for our girl, even in my wildest dreams i never thought she would end up THAT FAR ahead of everyone else. Maybe karma is real after all, we've been through so much and our efforts have paid off 

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Exactly. I still get the holy ****, I can't believe this happened thoughts on a weekly basis, and there's alway some incomprehensible stat that just makes me stop and reflect on how far we've come 

 

I no longer have to be messy for Taylor (not that the administration of this website looks kindly upon mess to that degree anymore, but I digress), because you can literally just throw down the numbers gauntlet with a fan of any other female artist and they'll have no rebuttal other than "oh, her voice is bad" or "oh, TTPD is a bad album", both of which I know are untrue lashouts coming from their own insecurities 

 

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Slightly in my own defense, I've also no longer felt the need to be messy for Taylor now that my prefrontal cortex has developed, because (among other things), I'm more aware of the fact that wishing a... self-ending onto someone else and then them actually... carrying it out is grounds for prosecution

 

[TeamThiem]

Still VERY obsessed with Fortnight.

 

I don't know how many times a week I start randomly humming the melody of the verses.  

[Dear Reader]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:16 PM, Enrique523 said:

Please tell us some stories too, we'd love to hear more mess 

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I don't have any messy stories honestly 

 

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Except for a dark time in 2011 that I used to stan only Gaga (you'll love this!) and was an annoying baguette who criticized every single other girl. 

 

[MidnightsAtPeace]

I first discovered taylor on my grandpa's funeral when I was only 9 

Basically, I begged my cousin to send me songs by female artists (my gay ass was never impressed by men), and she sent me the love story music video and the fifteen performance at the 2009 grammys with miley.

The rest is history.

[Enrique523]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:16 PM, wastedpotential said:

Exactly. I still get the holy ****, I can't believe this happened thoughts on a weekly basis, and there's alway some incomprehensible stat that just makes me stop and reflect on how far we've come 

 

I no longer have to be messy for Taylor (not that the administration of this website looks kindly upon mess to that degree anymore, but I digress), because you can literally just throw down the numbers gauntlet with a fan of any other female artist and they'll have no rebuttal other than "oh, her voice is bad" or "oh, TTPD is a bad album", both of which I know are untrue lashouts coming from their own insecurities 

 

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Slightly in my own defense, I've also no longer felt the need to be messy for Taylor now that my prefrontal cortex has developed, because (among other things), I'm more aware of the fact that wishing a... self-ending onto someone else and then them actually... carrying it out is grounds for prosecution

 

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Oh yeah things have changed a lot haven't they? I still remember the doom and gloom of the Midnights thread before the era properly started and i was so nervous about the whole thing. I NEVER would've thought she'd went on to have probably the biggest comeback a female popstar ever had in history 

 

OTHs truly have no real argument anymore, they're SO mad because they know their faves have no chance to catching up to Taylor anymore at this point. They would need more than a single successful era to do that, they would need to have their ENTIRE catalogue to bounce back in order to catch up. And it's not gonna happen because most of Taylor's peers just haven't created the kind of body of work Taylor did, therefore their back catalogue won't ever have the same appeal for the GP, especially the album tracks. Taylor is also still able to SELL music physically, something that her peers just cannot do to save their lives. So all OTHs have is endless bitterness because they know they lost the war, not just a battle 

 

And yeah, i also used to say...questionnable things myself 10-12 years ago online and i'm not that kind of person anymore thankfully 

[Enrique523]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:18 PM, Dear Reader said:

I don't have any messy stories honestly 

 

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Except for a dark time in 2011 that I used to stan only Gaga (you'll love this!) and was an annoying baguette who criticized every single other girl. 

 

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I mean at some degree i can understand why people would find Gaga interesting back then but i always found her EXTREMELY overrated/overhyped, especially when her stans/the medias were insulting MADONNA of all people to prop Gaga up. I've been a Madonna stan since i was a young kid and seeing people trash her legacy/talent/body of work in the name of a pop star only 2-3 years in her career really disgusted me to no end. And Gaga herself and many people on her team were being shady/passive agressive toward Madonna which made things even worse 

 

All i have to say is i'm really glad Gaga's career took a nose dive, it was one of the most satisfactory moment of my stanning life 

[Dear Reader]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:33 PM, Enrique523 said:

I mean at some degree i can understand why people would find Gaga interesting back then but i always found her EXTREMELY overrated/overhyped, especially when her stans/the medias were insulting MADONNA of all people to prop Gaga up. I've been a Madonna stan since i was a young kid and seeing people trash her legacy/talent/body of work in the name of a pop star only 2-3 years in her career really disgusted me to no end. And Gaga herself and many people on her team were being shady/passive agressive toward Madonna which made things even worse 

 

All i have to say is i'm really glad Gaga's career took a nose dive, it was one of the most satisfactory moment of my stanning life 

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nnnn I used to be one of those annoying little monsters that criticized Madonna a lot. I've grown a lot since then and I can appreciate Madonna a lot more and now that if it wasn't for her, we wouldn't have any of the other girlies 

 

[coney island]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:18 PM, Dear Reader said:

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Except for a dark time in 2011 that I used to stan only Gaga (you'll love this!) and was an annoying baguette who criticized every single other girl. 

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I swear, these days there is no fanbase that Taylor makes madder than the Liddos. 

[Enrique523]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:35 PM, Dear Reader said:

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nnnn I used to be one of those annoying little monsters that criticized Madonna a lot. I've grown a lot since then and I can appreciate Madonna a lot more and now that if it wasn't for her, we wouldn't have any of the other girlies 

 

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Fair enough, people grow and learn and that's the most important thing at the end of the day 

[hoax]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:18 PM, Dear Reader said:

I don't have any messy stories honestly 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Except for a dark time in 2011 that I used to stan only Gaga (you'll love this!) and was an annoying baguette who criticized every single other girl. 

 

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nnn it's the way that I actually almost stanned Gaga in like 2010 but one of her fans said something bitchy about Taylor and I wrote her off entirely 

 

I still love her music from that time period I feel less... positively about most of her post 2011 output, but that's neither here nor there, but I sometimes do wonder what my life would be like if I were a Liddo 

[Dear Reader]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:39 PM, Gladiator said:

I swear, these days there is no fanbase that Taylor makes madder than the Liddos. 

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I'm a hybrid stan (I love Taylor slightly more now). 

 

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:40 PM, Enrique523 said:

Fair enough, people grow and learn and that's the most important thing at the end of the day 

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Yeah, I'm a very different person now and I love to stan all women, unless they're really problematic like recent releases. 

[Enrique523]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:39 PM, Gladiator said:

I swear, these days there is no fanbase that Taylor makes madder than the Liddos. 

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I think a lot of liddos are still stuck in 2009-2011 when Gaga was the Supreme and can't deal with the reality of her not being on top anymore. That's why a lot of them hide behind her movies to feel "powerful" 

 

Things are gonna be unbearable once Joker 2 comes out, prepare yourselves guys 

[hoax]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:27 PM, Enrique523 said:

Oh yeah things have changed a lot haven't they? I still remember the doom and gloom of the Midnights thread before the era properly started and i was so nervous about the whole thing. I NEVER would've thought she'd went on to have probably the biggest comeback a female popstar ever had in history 

 

OTHs truly have no real argument anymore, they're SO mad because they know their faves have no chance to catching up to Taylor anymore at this point. They would need more than a single successful era to do that, they would need to have their ENTIRE catalogue to bounce back in order to catch up. And it's not gonna happen because most of Taylor's peers just haven't created the kind of body of work Taylor did, therefore their back catalogue won't ever have the same appeal for the GP, especially the album tracks. Taylor is also still able to SELL music physically, something that her peers just cannot do to save their lives. So all OTHs have is endless bitterness because they know they lost the war, not just a battle 

 

And yeah, i also used to say...questionnable things myself 10-12 years ago online and i'm not that kind of person anymore thankfully 

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Exactly, it's not even fun fighting with the OTH anymore (well, I can still have a good time tussling with the Fenty Furniture Fans from time to time, but no one else really gets me going ddd) because the fight is so imbalanced. I know Taylor is on one trajectory and everyone else is on a different trajectory, and they know it too, and it just clouds the fun of the brawl because they know they've already lost before it starts 

[on the line]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:12 PM, wastedpotential said:

Honestly, I think she just had to get it out as quickly as possible because it really didn't reflect where her life had become, so it was just best to put it out and move on 

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This100%

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  On 7/22/2024 at 1:42 PM, Dear Reader said:

Yeah, I'm a very different person now and I love to stan all women, unless they're really problematic like recent releases. 

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You mean to say you don't support the sexy, confident, so intelligent chanteuse? 

Edited July 22, 2024 by wastedpotential

[Enrique523]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:42 PM, wastedpotential said:

nnn it's the way that I actually almost stanned Gaga in like 2010 but one of her fans said something bitchy about Taylor and I wrote her off entirely 

 

I still love her music from that time period I feel less... positively about most of her post 2011 output, but that's neither here nor there, but I sometimes do wonder what my life would be like if I were a Liddo 

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Well that didn't happened so you're safe now 

 

Most of the time i wonder what my life would be if i ended up hating Taylor herself, i just CANNOT imagine how miserable i would be 

[Dear Reader]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:46 PM, wastedpotential said:

You mean to say you don't support the sexy, confident, so intelligent chanteuse? 

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Look, I supported her on her flop eras, but not after recent events  There's only so many things I can look past. 

[Enrique523]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:45 PM, wastedpotential said:

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Exactly, it's not even fun fighting with the OTH anymore (well, I can still have a good time tussling with the Fenty Furniture Fans from time to time, but no one else really gets me going ddd) because the fight is so imbalanced. I know Taylor is on one trajectory and everyone else is on a different trajectory, and they know it too, and it just clouds the fun of the brawl because they know they've already lost before it starts 

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This is the reason why those endless threads made by OTHs on this site are so absurd, because it's entirely motivated by blind rage. They know they've lost the entire war and they're just throwing tantrums over and over and over again. They always refuse logical arguments backed up by facts and numbers, it's ALL about feelings and vibes with them at this point. Because they cannot accept the reality of Taylor's supremacy.

[vale9001]

we need republic records to update her certifications? what they are waiting? I bet there are album tracks from lover to midnights are even eligible for 2xP 

[selena_lavigne]

Girl - The Tortured Poet's Department - Selena Lavigne's Novel is in the works. 
And i have most of my afternoons free to write it. 

[Enrique523]

  On 7/22/2024 at 1:46 PM, wastedpotential said:

You mean to say you don't support the sexy, confident, so intelligent chanteuse? 

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Truly makes ME! looks like a lyrical masterpiece in comparison