news 9 men sentenced to death by crucifixion and stoning for "sodomy" in Yemen

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Miss Show Business said:

The most I've done to "downplay" the situation in Israel is say that I'm unsure of if what is happening in Israel is severe enough to be called a genocide. Not because I don't believe it not capable of happening, but I'm just unsure and think it's too early to tell. I certainly do not trust Hamas provided statistics. Do I think it's possible Israel has committed war crimes? 100%, and I've never said a single time on this forum or elsewhere that I believe Israel to be an innocent party in this.

 

What pisses me off, is downplaying and denial of the events of October 7, the anti Israel and "Israel doesn't deserve to exist" rhetoric, the sugar coating and praising of terroristic groups, bullying and belittling Jewish people for voicing THEIR experiences and concerns, bullying and belittling other users on this forum, Etc.

 

Believe me, if it does come out that Israel's crimes amount to genocide, we "white moderates" (I'm not even a moderate, still left wing) will join the chorus of condemnations.

 

What we won't forget? Is you all downplaying and basically praising known terrorist groups. You can't take that back or apologize for it.

my God you're so full of **** 

[ClashAndBurn]

4 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

Hamas provided statistics.

Hamas-provided statistics that Joe Biden purposely cast doubt on so that people like you could downplay what is happening, when in reality, the Ministry of Health casualty numbers are likely undercounting what's going on due to... the Ministry of Health being eradicated by the IDF's Biden Bombs.

 

Edit: Reminder that the US State Department's memos reference statistics from the Palestinian Health Ministry because... they literally consider them the most reliable data that they would ever have access to. Israel has a vested interest in deflating collateral victim counts and overinflating how many they've actually killed were ACTUALLY Hamas fighters.

Edited March 31 by ClashAndBurn

[Virgos Groove]

Just now, Miss Show Business said:

Believe me, if it does come out that Israel's crimes amount to genocide, we "white moderates" (I'm not even a moderate, still left wing) will join the chorus of condemnations.

*coughs*

 

So, will you be wanting a megaphone or will a placard do?

[Aethereal]

1 hour ago, Virgos Groove said:

Also, some of you are lucky this place got reset in April 2022 because I vividly remember some of you simping for Ukranian neo-nazis... But please tell us how we shouldn't support Palestine because they - a stateless, armyless people - have to rely on what they have and not who Westerners think they should ally themselves with.

The war in Ukraine started two months before the ATRL reset so that is likely something you pulled out of your ass. Whatever posts you find out they should still be around.

And we had plenty of threads about concerning the threat of neo-Nazis in Ukraine only after the war started.

 

I oppose attacks in US ships but don't care that much given all the bigger issues in the world and after they will enrich mostly billionaires but  I'll remember this if things turn around about Iran or China.  

[Jjang]

"I have a problem with belittling Israelis' experiences but watch me belittle 40,000 Palestinians bombed to death by saying they're unreliable Hamas numbers"

 

Edited March 31 by Jjang

[Miss Show Business]

4 minutes ago, Jjang said:

my God you're so full of **** 

This is exactly the sh** I'm talking about.

 

When you act like this 24/7, good luck getting anyone on board with you. Y'all are toxic asf.

 

[Communion]

2 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

It wasn't off topic in the slightest, did not mention Palestine

You, the 3rd post in the thread, made the topic of the thread go from the experience of gay men in Yemen to geopolitics. 

You are quite literally using the suffering of gay men in Yemen - whose realities will not be made better by *your* political cause - for the defense of Joe Biden's Zionism.

 

You don't care about suffering gay men. You're quite literally exploiting their deaths. 

[Redstreak]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

You, the 3rd post in the thread, made the topic of the thread go from the experience of gay men in Yemen to geopolitics. 

You are quite literally using the suffering of gay men in Yemen - whose realities will not be made better by *your* political cause - for the defense of Joe Biden's Zionism.

 

You don't care about suffering gay men. You're quite literally exploiting their deaths. 

I'm sorry is this not a geopolitical topic? if there's a mass shooting am I only allowed to say "thoughts and prayers"?

[Virgos Groove]

4 minutes ago, Aethereal said:

The war in Ukraine started two months before the ATRL reset so that is likely something you pulled out of your ass. Whatever posts you find out they should still be around.

February comes before April, therefore we can't access the posts from time of the invasion.

Edited March 31 by Virgos Groove

[Jjang]

5 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

This is exactly the sh** I'm talking about.

 

When you act like this 24/7, good luck getting anyone on board with you. Y'all are toxic asf.

 

ok miss "I don't know if deliberately starving an entire population is that severe" 

[Pop]

This is what the HAMAS girlies are rooting for. 

[Communion]

9 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

I'm sorry is this not a geopolitical topic?

Quite literally no. The treatment of gay men in Yemen has literally nothing to do materially with American protests over weapons shipments.

 

If Joe Biden stopped being protested for sending 2,000 lb pounds to Israel, would life for gay men in Yemen improve?

If Yemen abandoned Palestine and began to ally with Israel, would life for gay men in Yemen improve?

Tell me, how are gay men treated in Saudi Arabia, a nation currently allying with Israel and trying to fold the rest of the Arab world into a US+Israel alliance?

 

So what motivates you to try and link the suffering of gay men in Yemen to the fact that you support Biden and don't like him being protested for shipping weapons? You don't care about dying gay men - you're rallying for a US president who was just bombing gay and straight Yemenis? 

Edited March 31 by Communion

[Redstreak]

 

2 minutes ago, Communion said:

Quite literally no. The treatment of gay men in Yemen has literally nothing to do materially with either American protests over weapons shipments.

 

If Joe Biden stopped being protested for sending 2,000 lb pounds to Israel, would life for gay men in Yemen improve?

If Yemen abandoned Palestine and began to ally with Israel, would life for gay men in Yemen improve?

Tell me, how are gay men treated in Saudi Arabia, a nation currently allying with Israel and trying to fold the rest of the Arab world into a US+Israel alliance?

 

So what motivates you to try and link the suffering of gay men with Yemen to the fact that you support Biden and don't like him being protested for shipping weapons?

how does one discuss the experiences of queer people in the Middle East without discussing geopolitics? Also my original post was one sentence long that included none of these topics you currently are

Edited March 31 by Redstreak

[ClashAndBurn]

11 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

I'm sorry is this not a geopolitical topic? if there's a mass shooting am I only allowed to say "thoughts and prayers"?

You just... You do realize you're a few steps off of saying Joe Biden is right to support Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign because "Palestinians are also hostile to gays because of their religion so they deserve to be wiped out" right?

 

The Houthis are shitty allies to have, but they're the ONLY ones in the entire world besides Hezbollah (which liberals also demonize for doing so the same way they do with the Houthis) who've done anything resembling solidarity with the Palestinians' plight, regardless of their motives being driven by anti-Semitic opportunism. Joe Biden literally just shipped billions of dollars in arms to Israel after HIS STATE DEPARTMENT acknowledged that famine has already set in in Gaza. Biden is downplaying UN resolutions as non-binding and meaningless, so he's still endeavoring to provide Israel with diplomatic cover.

 

Palestinians and their supporters have no luxury in choosing what allies they have when the entire Western world has turned their back on them and support Israel's campaign of total eradication.

Edited March 31 by ClashAndBurn

[Virgos Groove]

Not the "I got pounded in Tel Aviv, so I'm fine with genocide actually" girlies trying to feign moral superiority

 

[State of Grace.]

21 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

if it does come out that Israel's crimes amount to genocide

"if"

 

..lol

[Shelter]

2 hours ago, Trent W said:

I can't believe I am in a timeline where religion is this relevant

 

I refuse to seriously believe there are humans that take that brainrot **** so seriously   

It's tiring. There is no hope for them. They are sick and twisted and act like they so peaceful  

 

[Communion]

3 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

discuss the experiences of queer people in the Middle East 

You're not discussing the experiences of queer people in the Middle East - you're trying to discuss and whitewash your preferred American presidential candidate bombing Palestine (and Yemen) and trying to exploit dying gay men in Yemen as a pretext to defend the ghoulishness of your indifference to Palestinian & Yemeni life. 

 

Do you think Joe Biden was supporting Saudi Arabia's bombing campaign on Yemen out of a love for queer people? 

Edited March 31 by Communion

[Redstreak]

1 minute ago, ClashAndBurn said:

You just... You do realize you're a few steps off of saying Joe Biden is right to support Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign because "Palestinians are also hostile to gays because of their religion so they deserve to be wiped out" right?

 

The Houthis are shitty allies to have, but they're the ONLY ones in the entire world besides Hezbollah (which liberals also demonize for doing so the same way they do with the Houthis) who've done anything resembling solidarity with the Palestinians' plight, regardless of their motives being driven by anti-Semitic opportunism. Joe Biden literally just shipped billions of dollars in arms to Israel after HIS STATE DEPARTMENT acknowledged that famine has already set in in Gaza. Biden is downplaying UN resolutions as non-binding and meaningless, so he's still endeavoring to provide Israel with diplomatic cover.

I have not brought up Joe Biden in this thread

[Redstreak]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

You're not discussing the experiences of queer people in the Middle East - you're trying to discuss and whitewash your preferred American presidential candidate bombing Palestine (and Yemen) and trying to exploit dying gay men in Yemen as a pretext to defend the ghoulishness of your indifference to Palestinian & Yemeni life. 

Are the houthis not directly part of the experience of these people? The one and only specific topic I mentioned in that post by name?

Edited March 31 by Redstreak

[Redstreak]

3 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

Not the "I got pounded in Tel Aviv, so I'm fine with genocide actually" girlies trying to feign moral superiority

 

Mama Israel isn't exactly the utopia of gay rights

[ClashAndBurn]

Just now, Redstreak said:

I have not brought up Joe Biden in this thread

If you can bring up geopolitics to gloat about your morals being superior to those of Palestinians' supporters in a thread about a local issue, then Joe Biden (who literally drives geopolitics purely by virtue of being the US president in charge of backing the cause that the Houthis are fighting against) is fair game.

[Squall]

Religion is the worst thing to ever happen to humanity, these countries are so trash

Edited March 31 by Squall

[Redstreak]

Just now, ClashAndBurn said:

If you can bring up geopolitics to gloat about your morals being superior to those of Palestinians' supporters in a thread about a local issue, then Joe Biden (who literally drives geopolitics purely by virtue of being the US president in charge of backing the cause that the Houthis are fighting against) is fair game.

We can discuss that all you like, but you connected him to me as if *I* did. Which I did not

[Peroxide]

Couple of things…

 

What is happening in Palestine IS genocide and the West is actively contributing to it.

 

Hamas is a resistance movement against an illegal occupation but that doesn't make them "the good guys”… they aren't.

 

The Middle East remains an absolute hellhole for queer people, women and other minorities and we should be able to engage in good faith criticism of these atrocities without resorting to whataboutisms… these 9 men deserve better than that.
 

The appalling treatment of queer people in Muslim majority countries shouldn't be weaponised to justify an on-going mass slaughter in Gaza.