QueenBeyoncé Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, favorite crime said: And only one of them is solo It seems she has a trend of leeching onto more successful artists the nerve of that Stan when highest peaking song on the global is #87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreajae Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Shakira is very successful and she can stand in her own light. Justin and Usher just dropped and didn't even come close to either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, QueenBeyoncé said: the nerve of that Stan when highest peaking song on the global is #87 facts are facts Renaissance will NEVER has the streams of LMYNL, and the gap streams only will get bigger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 16 minutes ago, QueenBeyoncé said: One released 7 singles before the album That's how albums work in most of the world. Do yourself a favor and look into some Japanese artists. 15 minutes ago, QueenBeyoncé said: 7 singles before the album dropped bfr TQG - 945M (+993k daily) Bzrp Music Sessions - 905M (+908k daily) Te Felicito - 696M (+280k daily) Cuff It - 761M (+540k daily) Break My Soul - 427M (+245k daily) America Has A Problem - 145M (+147k daily) America Has A Problem Remix - 99M (+95k daily) There's a reason Shakira keeps getting the green light for more singles. She's absolutely smashing right now and Spanish music is more popular than ever now that streaming has weakened the dominance of countries with high GDPs. She absolutely deserves to be lauded for her incredible longevity and the BeyHive do not want to compare anything to her new album. 4 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyle Street Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 7 minutes ago, Jonver said: not everyone can do that, just look at Jlo. at the end LMYNL is going to outstream all Beyoncé albums. This is the equivalent of Barbz claiming that PF2 reached 1B streams in 20 days as if any of it was organic and not her plugging in 4 pre-released singles (ditto with random FEFE tacked onto Queen and STILL having bomb daily streams) . It's worse in Shakira's case considering all but one were collabs let Beyonce add Perfect Duet to Renaissance and just that one song alone puts her over the top. Since we're being callous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBeyoncé Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Eternium said: That's how albums work in most of the world. Do yourself a favor and look into some Japanese artists. TQG - 945M (+993k daily) Bzrp Music Sessions - 905M (+908k daily) Te Felicito - 696M (+280k daily) Cuff It - 761M (+540k daily) Break My Soul - 427M (+245k daily) America Has A Problem - 145M (+147k daily) America Has A Problem Remix - 99M (+95k daily) There's a reason Shakira keeps getting the green light for more singles. She's absolutely smashing right now and Spanish music is more popular than ever now that streaming has weakened the dominance of countries with high GDPs. She absolutely deserves to be lauded for her incredible longevity and the BeyHive do not want to compare anything to her new album. Puntería' by Shakira and Cardi B debuts at #87 on Global Spotify with 1.91 million streams. smashing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBeyoncé Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, Jonver said: facts are facts Renaissance will NEVER has the streams of LMYNL, and the gap streams only will get bigger. Some girls don't need to include songs from 2 years ago, some girls need to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, QueenBeyoncé said: Some girls don't need to include songs from 2 years ago, some girls need to well some girls cant do that lol, look at Beyoncé tanking hard with American has a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBeyoncé Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Jonver said: well some girls cant do that lol, look at Beyoncé tanking hard with American has a problem. Some girls need to clearly when their album debuted with 13m globally while another did 43M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian14 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, QueenBeyoncé said: Algunas chicas necesitan tener claro cuándo debutó su álbum con 13 millones a nivel mundial mientras que otra lo hizo con 43 millones. You need to add that those streams are from poor countries. Shakira does not have any success in the UK or Australia. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, QueenBeyoncé said: Some girls need to clearly when their album debuted with 13m globally while another did 43M debuts mean nothing when the album gets poor streams afterwards, Shakira still have the most streamed album at the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvadaKedavra Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) These comparisons make no sense. First, We're talking about BEYONCE "An American artist" with the entire American industry on her side. With English as her native language. She's in her ELEMENT It's easy to be a mega international star and stay relevant when you're from the USA. The nation where all our Entertainment products come from. Europe loves English American Music. The Whole planet. Having the possibility to experiment in a market that allows experimentation because Americans charts are highly diverse. A billionaire artist with a huge budget to make the most expensive albums LEMONADE-BEYONCE-BLACK IS KING. With the biggest connections in the industry. It's like Taylor Swift or others. Artists from the USA, Canada, or the UK are very privileged compared to other countries. U probably hate it but its the truth. We are comparing the rich kid from the private school with the middle income one Shakira is a Latin artist. From a small city in the Southamerican Caribbean. With Spanish as her native language. Not a germanic language. Limited. Without those huge connections. An exotic artist who is too "Latin" "Strange" to appeal to Anglo or English-speaking people , no matter how hard she tries they ignore her always. Yet she has managed to stay relevant for decades and smash in countries where they only play english music. Even with the disadvantages of being international and not havin all that machine behind RCA did nothing for shakira. She's in the hands of Sony Latin. However, i have to acknowledge that Beyoncé also has a titanic work ethic and ambition. That's what has put her above other pop singers of her generation and her own country. Her love for her artistry. Even with the privilege of being born as an American-First World -Artist from the center of the entertainment industry, she is very dedicated to her craft. Shakira now takes things less seriously and she's just havin fun. Shaki was a maximalist in the past and now is a minimalist. Her priorities shifted. Beyonce is pursuing Artistic Evolution perpetually. Pretty rare for an artist of her age. So many lose their ambition early. Both are winning cause both are still relevant. Shakira pushed back her album too much. It was expected to have lower streams than usual Comparisons are foolish because they are artists of different types Edited March 23 by AvadaKedavra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenBeyoncé Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, Jonver said: debuts mean nothing when the album gets poor streams afterwards, Shakira still have the most streamed album at the end. She needs it when the highest single off the album is in the 80s these streams should translate to a record breaking stadium tour right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Texas Hold Em: 4,042,808 --- Shakira's solo songs from her album: 3,078,318 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, QueenBeyoncé said: She needs it when the highest single off the album is in the 80s these streams should translate to a record breaking stadium tour right? ofc they will, for the moment She's outstreaming Beyoncé last album. go to stream break My soul, cutt it & and AHAP, maybe in a decade the album will have 5 or 6 billion streams. Edited March 23 by Jonver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 6 minutes ago, Jonver said: ofc they will, for the moment She's outstreaming Beyoncé last album. go to stream break My soul, cutt it & and AHAP, maybe in a decade will have 5 or 6 billion streams. I'm sure Beyoncé could tack on other people's songs to her albums and then watch stans claim her albums magically jumped in billions of streams. Because from the look of how Shakira's album just performed on its release, it's clear she was not the draw on those songs. The Karol G song inclusion is particularly egregious considering it's already been released on Karol's album. Shameless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
favorite crime Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 29 minutes ago, Eternium said: That's how albums work in most of the world. Do yourself a favor and look into some Japanese artists. TQG - 945M (+993k daily) Bzrp Music Sessions - 905M (+908k daily) Te Felicito - 696M (+280k daily) Cuff It - 761M (+540k daily) Break My Soul - 427M (+245k daily) America Has A Problem - 145M (+147k daily) America Has A Problem Remix - 99M (+95k daily) There's a reason Shakira keeps getting the green light for more singles. She's absolutely smashing right now and Spanish music is more popular than ever now that streaming has weakened the dominance of countries with high GDPs. She absolutely deserves to be lauded for her incredible longevity and the BeyHive do not want to compare anything to her new album. All I see are songs with artists who are all currently bigger than Shakira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lovett said: I'm sure Beyoncé could tack on other people's songs to her albums and then watch stans claim her albums magically jumped in billions of streams. Because from the look of how Shakira's album just performed on its release, it's clear she was not the draw on those songs. The Karol G song inclusion is particularly egregious considering it's already been released on Karol's album. Shameless. I know you're not bilingual, but let me explain, the Session & TQG are about her and her drama, she wrote and produced the songs, people were streaming because HER scandal. all that doesnt matter cause she still have the most streamed album. Edited March 23 by Jonver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Lemonade (Spotify 2019, 3 years after release): 15.4M 13/13 songs on Spotify Global Chart --- Las Mujeres Ya No Lloran: 13.5M 2/17 songs on Spotify Global Chart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KOMH Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Why is the first woman to go #1 on the Billboard 200 with an all Spanish album being discredited again? Karol G was very much a driving force behind TQG's success. Comparing features to solo songs from 2022 whilst at the same time excluding Beyoncé's most recent smash is comical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Jonver said: I know you're not bilingual, but let me explain, the Session & TQG are about her and her drama, she wrote the songs, she and produced the songs, people were streaming because HER scandal. all that doesnt matter cause she still have the most streamed album. Great, so if Beyoncé added a bunch of Destiny's Child songs that she also wrote and produced, to her album, would you be ok with that? Or would you more realistically state that these songs were already released years ago on other projects? Considering your attitude to Beyoncé on this forum, we know the answer. And Shakira's "most streamed album" will forever have that * on it to acknowledge that she included previously released songs from other artists to boost the streams. It's clear from how the rest of the album performed that the people checking for Bizarrap and Karol G's songs about Shakira's scandal weren't too interested in checking for Shakira's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinning Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 40 minutes ago, Jonver said: well some girls cant do that lol, look at Beyoncé tanking hard with American has a problem. Y'all are absolutely grasping at straws in this thread. Just saying anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Shakira does good, but I'm laughing at Jonver and Eternium posting loads of singles released prior to the album acting like she beat Beyonce. Not 1 solo song on the album did 1 million debut. All her recent songs that do good is collabs. Shakira could never pull off a Renaissance and you know it. Don't even start me on touring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonver Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 6 minutes ago, Lovett said: Great, so if Beyoncé added a bunch of Destiny's Child songs that she also wrote and produced, to her album, would you be ok with that? Or would you more realistically state that these songs were already released years ago on other projects? Considering your attitude to Beyoncé on this forum, we know the answer. And Shakira's "most streamed album" will forever have that * on it to acknowledge that she included previously released songs from other artists to boost the streams. It's clear from how the rest of the album performed that the people checking for Bizarrap and Karol G's songs about Shakira's scandal weren't too interested in checking for Shakira's. Beyoncé has been leeching on popular artists and songs in the past, but the difference she didnt put any input on the original songs, shakira did it, the songs are about HER story, not the same case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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