swissman Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BnPac said: !!!! I want to know as well. People just talk to talk at this point. Anyway, it's not surprising, we knew this will happen. Hive should not focus on that. Yes, I agree. It's not surprising but I do think there is value in calling it out. That's kind of what Beyoncé (maybe) seems to be doing with this anyway in a passive way. Much like her CMAs performance was a litmus test for how people reacted to her at their awards show...in real time, and caught on camera. Edited February 13 by swissman 1
Gui Blackout Posted February 13 Posted February 13 They don't even play Maren Morris and Kacey Musgraves in these radios, this shouldn't come as a surprise 1
liquiddiamonds Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) Not only there’s racism, there’s also ageism. There’s a reason why Miranda, Carrie and others started to struggle in the country charts. Miranda had a nice fanbase and lowkey survived scoring a couple of radio hits, but radio chops country women past 35 or liberal ones Edited February 13 by liquiddiamonds
swissman Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) 8 minutes ago, IsidoraMarí said: Y'all expect people to answer a subjective question that you'll never be content with. lol But we're not talking about whether you think the song is good or bad (a subjective opinion). We are asking what other Beyoncé songs are like Texas Hold 'Em, since you claimed and I quote : "Beyonce objectively makes the same songs she always makes but calls them another genre". Did you not in your own words claim that this was an objective fact? And thus, it should not be hard nor out of the question for us to expect you to expand on this "objective" fact you are now claiming is a question of subjectivity. Edited February 13 by swissman 1 3
swissman Posted February 13 Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, Fastlane said: Many stations even want to play album tracks on pop radio, but if they are not released on this format as a single (they are not added to the database), then they cannot be played. Then shouldn't the answer be "we don't have the song in our database, sorry?"
Tylerbv Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Honestly not shocking. Men dominate country to the point where there will be 1-2 female songs in the top 20 of country radio. Gets worse if you’re over 35. Black artists have also historically struggled with minor exceptions (Wagon Wheel). 1
byzantium Posted February 13 Posted February 13 I’m a little confused by this email chain. Did the person responding even know about the Beyonce song? Country music like a lot of major genres is also very community based and they generally mostly play those artists. Like Zack Bryan doesn’t really get country radio airplay either and his whole discography is country rather than just a few songs. that said, country music has taken a sharp turn in the wrong direction over the last 12 years or so and there is a lot wrong with it these days. The genre for example has not supported a single major female artist since Taylor left a decade ago. 1
satellites.™ Posted February 13 Posted February 13 This could go two ways because female country artists already struggle so if Bey suddenly gets heavy airplay those women will feel rightly slighted. There is a hierarchy to these things! Also, it's been all of oen day and the online HIVE is nasty anyway so I doubt they were respectful to those people at the station. 1
TheBlackBarbie Posted February 13 Posted February 13 This is crazy specially considering that Black people invented Country & every other popular genre we now know today and yet we still have to fight for our spot. Ntm we have to bust our ass and work 10xx harder for half the money, recognition, and accolades. Of course this is rooted in racism and anyone that's denying that is also part of the problem I fear. Racism run deep in the music industry just like it does any other industry. All U have to do is look at The Grammys and how they box us into R&B, Hip-Hop/Rap and Gospel categories. I mean Taylor Swift has more AOTY Grammys than Black women has won in the 70 yrs of Grammy history. Ntm a Black woman hasn't won music highest honor in almost 30 yrs. Am I to believe that not 1 Black female deserved AOTY in almost 30 yrs? 1 2
liquiddiamonds Posted February 13 Posted February 13 People mentioning the climb… that was 2009 it got worse from there the last time a bonafide big pop girl crossed over in country was Kelly Clarkson and she didn’t even do solo, but as feature for the likes of Reba, Vince Gill and Jason Aldean. The best shot Bey would have had is if the song featured a male country radio darling. Maybe the backlash will make some stations move, but a top 40 in the country radio charts would have been a major victory already when all is said and done
swissman Posted February 13 Posted February 13 I do think that this will be situation where the more you push, the harder they refuse, which means she's not going to be played either way. BUT there's a lot of excuses going on in this thread. There's a lot of "well ya..." happening which might help explain things but doesn't actually sort out the abundant misogyny and racism that these country stations employ in their music selection. 2
Dabbyy Posted February 13 Posted February 13 They know she's as country as ... Pope Francis for example .. 1
IsidoraMarí Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Just now, swissman said: But we're not talking about whether you think the song is good or bad (a subjective opinion). We are asking what other Beyoncé songs are like Texas Hold 'Em, since you claimed and I quote : "Beyonce objectively makes the same songs she always makes but calls them another genre". Did you not in your own words claim that this was an objective fact? And thus, it should not be hard nor out of the question for us to ask you to expand further on this objective fact that you are now claiming is a question of subjectivity. It's her vocal tone it's the same on all of her pop songs, I doubt you agree but it's true. She needs to make music like Be Alive instead of the same ole I done came up from where I started song again with a twangy beat. 4 2 5
Human Fly Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Why is this shocking to everyone? Beyonce’s music exact opposide of what country radio plays. Just because she released 1 country influenced single ? 5 1
Gladiator Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1. Does this radio station know that Beyonce released two songs on Sunday that are within their genre? 2. Were they sent the song to be played by her label to begin with?
PoisonPill Posted February 13 Posted February 13 I can't imagine anyone is surprised by this. Even if a major artist in the genre released this, it wouldn't get played on the format. Has her label even sent it for adds to country radios?
Tudors Posted February 13 Posted February 13 47 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: ??? Yes racism is factor here But they don't even play Taylor Swift anymore Why are you all so hell bent on Taylor?? Did she hurt something? Why are you trying to change the thread subject to her??? Stop it. This is about Beyonce 3 1 3 5
Dr. Alexander Posted February 13 Posted February 13 33 minutes ago, dawnettakins said: I edited my post and added more, as of course it's not the only reason and racism is surely at play as well. But I don't think a station that's catering to a country audience would play a song by an artist who is not a known country artist or is known for releasing country music, just because they were told it's a country song. I think it takes more than that, even if the person had heard the song. Also, a couple guitars and a country aesthetic doesn't suddenly make a full, authentic country sound that a country music station would want to play. “Easy On Me” went Top 25 on country radio… 3
Lose My Breath Posted February 13 Posted February 13 No one really expected Country radio to play this, right? I mean we should've all known that the only airplay it would get would be Pop and Hot AC if any
swissman Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Just now, IsidoraMarí said: It's her vocal tone it's the same on all of her pop songs, I doubt you agree but it's true. She needs to make music like Be Alive instead of the same ole I done came up from where I started song again with a twangy beat. lol so all this "she makes the same song" business is actually only because she has the same vocal tone? it's not that I don't agree her voice always sounds like her voice...it does. I just don't think this backs up your claim that she "makes the same songs she always makes". If that were the case, her having the same tone would mean Texas Hold 'Em and ALIEN SUPERSTAR are the same kind of song. 3 3
Domination Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Country radio runs like the mob lol. They don’t even play specific country artists for very ridiculous reasons, they sure as hell aren’t going to play Beyoncé. 1
liquiddiamonds Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dr. Alexander said: “Easy On Me” went Top 25 on country radio… The version with Chris Stapleton which is a country radio favorite. If Bey had one of their men in the ticket it would be hard but not as hard as a black woman trying it solo Edited February 13 by liquiddiamonds 2
IsidoraMarí Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) 4 minutes ago, swissman said: lol so all this "she makes the same song" business is actually only because she has the same vocal tone? it's not that I don't agree her voice always sounds like her voice...it does. I just don't think this backs up your claim that she "makes the same songs she always makes". If that were the case, her having the same tone would mean Texas Hold 'Em and ALIEN SUPERSTAR are the same kind of song. They are lol The entirety of this Renaissance era smells like a Lin Manuel-Miranda staged musical. Edited February 13 by IsidoraMarí 2 7
jadeabove Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) So basically, the intent of this album is to highlight the amount of racism in the music industry. Edited February 13 by jadeabove 5 1 1
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