Orsay Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) Absolutely a lot of sad answers in here, poor that Edit: I’ll add that it’s probably a lot easier for me because of where I live and grew up (SF Bay Area) and my accepting family. But no matter where you live, if your answer is straight up “no, I hate the gay community” then you have a LOT to learn and are not making things any easier for the next generation. And for the trans exclusionary gays in here - karma will deal with you. When bigoted straight men win, you get treated exactly the same as trans folks. Don’t fool yourselves into siding with them Edited February 2 by Orsay 2
Orsay Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tropical said: I've never got the whole "pride" thing, not a feeling I've ever felt. I'm not "ashamed" either it's just mostly something about me I don't consider focal to my personality. If you're a grown man and being gay is absolutely core to your personality, you can't have much going on. Also, the LGBTQIA2+ "community" doesn't exist. Everyone who is "not straight" does not necessarily fall under the same umbrella. It's purely for the convenience of straight people to "other" us. Transgender people go through heroic struggles to accept and affirm their gender identity and to feel comfortable in their body. What that has to do with me having same-sex attractions I'm not sure. It’s because when you lie with another man, the traditional straight world sees you as assuming the role of a woman. Our experiences across the community are bonded by the way they transgress gender expectations - whether that be in regard to sexual attraction (LGB) or in regard to one’s gender identity (T) Edited February 2 by Orsay 2
Suilen Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Considering that my government labels me as an extremist for who I am and would lock me up for my writing, yeah, I am. 2
Zefierce Posted February 2 Posted February 2 11 hours ago, My Tears Ricochet said: Proud to be gay? Nop. It's what I'm and I'm ok with it. But I don't associate myself with the LGBTQ+ tag ever since the feminists and pronoun warriors hijacked the movement and made it all about gender identity while sidelining the topics of sexual identity This I agree with. It seems like most of the LGBTQ+ issues being addressed today (in the US at least) have little to nothing to do with me and everything to do with the TQ+: minors transitioning, pronoun issues, trans-women athletes competing in sports, tampons in men's bathrooms, etc, etc. I don't see why I have to be lumped in with all of that just because I happen to like the same sex. 1
Big Bad Wolf Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Honestly, yes I’m still prideful, but as far as the “LGBT community”, it’s used as a scapegoat for a lot of fuckery and debauchery and that’s why so many people are against us right now. It’s people who infiltrate our community under the guise of being sincere + people actually in our community who are just shitty individuals. So I totally understand why some people don’t want to be aligned with it anymore.
My Tears Ricochet Posted February 2 Posted February 2 18 minutes ago, Zefierce said: This I agree with. It seems like most of the LGBTQ+ issues being addressed today (in the US at least) have little to nothing to do with me and everything to do with the TQ+: minors transitioning, pronoun issues, trans-women athletes competing in sports, tampons in men's bathrooms, etc, etc. I don't see why I have to be lumped in with all of that just because I happen to like the same sex. Exactly. Inb4 the catty gays in here here comes screaming 'Pick me' at you
Relampago. Posted February 2 Author Posted February 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Orsay said: Absolutely a lot of sad answers in here, poor that Edit: I’ll add that it’s probably a lot easier for me because of where I live and grew up (SF Bay Area) and my accepting family. But no matter where you live, if your answer is straight up “no, I hate the gay community” then you have a LOT to learn and are not making things any easier for the next generation. And for the trans exclusionary gays in here - karma will deal with you. When bigoted straight men win, you get treated exactly the same as trans folks. Don’t fool yourselves into siding with them The younger generation is a big part of why I try to stay resilient. I’m so grateful to have had my adolescence in the 10s and not the 80s for example. I want to continue that same feeling of acceptance and respect that I felt around the turn of 2015. If by being myself and being proud of that identity (whatever that means for me), then I want to do that. I’m doing a queer POC youth camp this month and I’m very excited for it! 1 hour ago, Zefierce said: This I agree with. It seems like most of the LGBTQ+ issues being addressed today (in the US at least) have little to nothing to do with me and everything to do with the TQ+: minors transitioning, pronoun issues, trans-women athletes competing in sports, tampons in men's bathrooms, etc, etc. I don't see why I have to be lumped in with all of that just because I happen to like the same sex. Respectfully, I think this is a bit of an ignorant take. With the right wing movements popping up in the western world, the US included, gays (and every other letter) are still fighting to keep our rights. Roe v Wade had a much longer history than Obergefell v Hodges and we saw what happened to that. Project 2025, while it may not be executed to its full extent HOPEFULLY, involves the overturning of gay marriage and making LGBTQ people at large an enemy of the American people. I think it’s easy to say “oh, that’ll NEVER happen!” but I feel like that’s been said about many things that have happened in the past few years. We certainly still have some work to do, if not for us, then definitely for those who will come after. On top of that, it feels a bit dismissive to try and separate ourselves from the rest of the community simply because trans people who fought in the past were not just fighting for trans people, they were fighting for the LGBTQ community at large. It feels a bit disrespectful that we reap the benefits of their work while turning our back on our trans allies. Sure, you can definitely say that you’re not responsible for paying a debt that occurred before you were born, and certainly not to those who came after that period of time, but when trans people benefit, we benefit as well. We are stronger together for sure, and we really need to be during times like this. All respect to your views, but I would ask yourself why you feel this way and what benefits that has for you. Edited February 2 by Relampago. 4 4
PrettyHurts Posted February 2 Posted February 2 13 minutes ago, Relampago. said: The younger generation is a big part of why I try to stay resilient. I’m so grateful to have had my adolescence in the 10s and not the 80s for example. I want to continue that same feeling of acceptance and respect that I felt around the turn of 2015. If by being myself and being proud of that identity (whatever that means for me), then I want to do that. I’m doing a POC youth camp this month and I’m very excited for it! Respectfully, I think this is a bit of an ignorant take. With the right wing movements popping up in the western world, the US included, gays (and every other letter) are still fighting to keep our rights. Roe v Wade had a much longer history than Obergefell v Hodges and we saw what happened to that. Project 2025, while it may not be executed to its full extent HOPEFULLY, involves the overturning of gay marriage and making LGBTQ people at large an enemy of the American people. I think it’s easy to say “oh, that’ll NEVER happen!” but I feel like that’s been said about many things that have happened in the past few years. We certainly still have some work to do, if not for us, then definitely for those who will come after. On top of that, it feels a bit dismissive to try and separate ourselves from the rest of the community simply because trans people who fought in the past were not just fighting for trans people, they were fighting for the LGBTQ community at large. It feels a bit disrespectful that we reap the benefits of their work while turning our back on our trans allies. Sure, you can definitely say that you’re not responsible for paying a debt that occurred before you were born, and certainly not to those who came after that period of time, but when trans people benefit, we benefit as well. We are stronger together for sure, and we really need to be during times like this. All respect to your views, but I would ask yourself why you feel this way and what benefits that has for you. this. i'm so sick of the self-hating transphobic gays thinking they are different than trans people or other gays. these right wing nuts hate us ALL. they need to get the stick out of their ass and learn to support fellow oppressed people 1 2
Oceania Posted February 2 Posted February 2 I'm proud of accomplishments I've worked hard to achieve, not of biological traits I absolutely have no control over which don't even define my identity in the slightest. 1 1 1
Gladiator Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) My thoughts are contradictory. I don't really identify myself as part of a community because I also sleep with other men. I don't engage in LGBT specific things, I don't attend or have interest in attending pride, etc. I also see that I have the privilege that that is such a non-issue for me due to the people in my life never giving me a reason to feel ashamed of that and my life experiences, while having faced bullying, is not the same as others - and I can say that generally I haven't experienced any hate. But I also am straight passing, so I am less targeted and I recognize that. I see the hardships that others who are in different life situations, surrounded by hateful people, deal with the struggles that they are given with for the same thing, and I want to stand in solidarity and support of them. I am not proud to be LGBT, because I don't feel any particular way about it. Edited February 3 by Gladiator 1
She-Rah Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) No, I wish I liked kitty it looks so delicious but it doesn’t arouse me Edited February 3 by She-Rah
Dolce Vita Posted February 3 Posted February 3 i guess but honestly being lgbt is an extremely small part of my life, i don’t identify with people that make their identity their personality
Pendulum Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) Jesus, can y'all let people feel and express themselves as they want? Those "pick-me" "not like the other gays" "self-hating" "catering to the str8s" taglines are unnecessary and dismissive of people's experience. I thought everybody is valid, right? That's what the LGBTQ+ community tells me. Gay people are not a monolith (a cliché at this point) and there might be a reason as to why some people do not identify with the acronym, label themselves as queer, go to pride, and may wish they were straight. And that's perfectly fine. Edited February 3 by Pendulum 2 1 1
єѕℓαм Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Yes i’m very proud of who i am and the community that i’m a part of yes i do live in a very homophobic country i went through hell and back & seen some very traumatizing s*** because of it but that only made me more proud to be gay 1
Lost In Paradise Posted February 9 Posted February 9 proud to be gay, don't think I'll ever identify with the "LGBTQ+ community" though
Technicolor Posted February 10 Posted February 10 I don't feel proud but also not ashamed. I feel like it doesn't really define who I am so it's just whatever
JoeAg Posted February 10 Posted February 10 7 hours ago, Lost In Paradise said: proud to be gay, don't think I'll ever identify with the "LGBTQ+ community" though care to elaborate? I mean if you’re gay, that’s the G in LGBTQ+ 1
needs Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) I would hate to be straight so yes Edited February 10 by needs 2
Summerboy95 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 The more time passes, the less pride I feel for the community I belong to. Gays are becoming more and more artificial and detached from reality. That being said, I'd rather be gay than straight so...
Mariah4life Posted February 10 Posted February 10 party/drugs/orgy gays - not proud other gays - indifferent
Rotunda Posted February 10 Posted February 10 I don’t think I’m really “proud” to be any of my identities, but I’m certainly happy/content with my queerness/blackness and have no yearning for something different. Pride is kinda reserved for my accomplishments (career, social, academic).
JonginBey Posted February 11 Posted February 11 I mean, I'm not ashamed by any means, but I do feel invisible idk
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