Monster Megamind Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, SmittenCake said: What are your opinions on the potential outcomes if Saudi Arabia and Iran become embroiled in a conflict? Do you think Saudi Arabia might consider disrupting gas supplies, while Iran could employ its own weaponry? Saudi won't. If they start becoming aggressive, United States and Europe will ban any more investment info Saudi. That NEOM project will stop indefinitely.
#Beautiful Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Carter said: HAMAS has the right to invade Israel more than the right for Israel to invade gaza. oh thats... not the way to look at something like this ever
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, #Beautiful said: oh thats... not the way to look at something like this ever all im doing is holding them at the same level of aggression, ideology and claims to the land but one of them started this, and when they got a taste of their own medicine now its called terror? so call the whole government of israel terrorists too they just literally said no one is innocent in gaza
HungryByTheBuffet Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Carter said: one of them started this, and when they got a taste of their own medicine now its called terror? Wiser words couldn't have been said by the rape-denying chanteuse! "they=civilians who have literally done nothing, tortured then killed" just so that everyone keeps in mind...
Letemtalk Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Carter said: December 30: Haifa, Palestine - 39 dead Irgun: a Zionist terrorist organization, threw bombs at a group of 100 Palestinian Arab refinery workers December 31: Haifa, Palestine - 71 dead Haganah: a Zionist paramilitary organization, attacked residents of the Balad al-Shaykh village while being alseep 1948: April 9: Dar Yassin - 200+ dead both Irgun & Lehi attacked the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem Those Irgun and Lehi terrorists went on to form the Likud party, and many Israeli prime ministers were from those terrorist organisations. 3 hours ago, Carter said: HAMAS has the right to invade Israel more than the right for Israel to invade gaza. No-one has a right to invade. But more than half the population of Gaza are refugees and those refugees do have the right to return to their homes/villages where they or their parents/grandparents came from. Quote The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (10 December 1948). Article 13. "Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country"
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said: Wiser words couldn't have been said by the rape-denying chanteuse! "they=civilians who have literally done nothing, tortured then killed" just so that everyone keeps in mind... the only rape confirmed allegations was made by IDF? so are talking about yourself? weird behavior honestly
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Letemtalk said: No-one has a right to invade. But more than half the population of Gaza are refugees and those refugees do have the right to return to their homes/villages where they or their parents/grandparents came from. girl all i said if one of them has the right to invade its hamas out of all the terrorist group i listed. to them its revenge to the IDF its ethnic cleansing.
HungryByTheBuffet Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 There's a lot of good takes around the internet and even in this thread, from Marianne Williamson etc. But it's definitely scary seeing the amount of radicalization displayed particularly in this thread, the pure hatred towards citizens of a country is very unfortunate and backwards any way you look at it, calling anyone who's not as extremely opinionated as you as a "Zionist" which has long lost its meaning and instead became a slur on here is very telling too. Not surprised to have not seen any Palestinians/Israelis share their own recent experiences, stories, loss of loved ones, struggles or any of the sort on here, the clans have made it a hostile uninviting place to anyone this would actually matter to. I'm assuming young-age/political puberty and radicalization has a lot to do with it alongside personal upbringing, family history, etc, but the truth is there's a fair share of radicalized individuals of adult age online sharing opinions and thoughts so maybe this thread is just the ugliest head of the climate itself when the individuals are faceless. But it's time to start calling it like it is, vile vibes. https://imgur.com/OGACKP1OGACKPf
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said: But it's definitely scary seeing the amount of radicalization displayed particularly in this thread, the pure hatred towards citizens of a country is very unfortunate and backwards any way you look at it, calling anyone who's not as extremely opinionated as you as a "Zionist" which has long lost its meaning and instead became a slur on here is very telling too. pure evil because no one is talking about the country citizens, i wish you could use your brain honestly. Edited October 16, 2023 by Carter
HungryByTheBuffet Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Carter said: the only rape confirmed allegations was made by IDF? so are talking about yourself? weird behavior honestly I'd say it's honestly weird behavior obsessing over if the babies are headless or just dead/burned/etc and saying "it's just mud" to graphic videos while denying any confirmations as fake propaganda... talking about myself? as in raped? you're so far gone it's scary tbh, it's giving some tendencies, not sure why you feel the need to constantly mock rape victims for no reason? mocking me for talking about rape victims now so I must be raped? huh? 1
BionicWooHoo Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 How do you separate fact from fiction? None of the people I follow are posting anything about it which is very disappointing but also if I post on social media I want to be sure I’m posting facts not propaganda? Idk
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said: I'd say it's honestly weird behavior obsessing over if the babies are headless or just dead/burned/etc and saying "it's just mud" to graphic videos while denying any confirmations as fake propaganda... talking about myself? as in raped? you're so far gone it's scary tbh, it's giving some tendencies, not sure why you feel the need to constantly mock rape victims for no reason? mocking me for talking about rape victims now so I must be raped? huh? do you actually believe that? i'm genuinely wondering? or you using gifs and emoji is very telling how serious you take the situation, its like some sort of stan war tbh 4 minutes ago, BionicWooHoo said: How do you separate fact from fiction? all i know the IDF is not a reliable source. Edited October 16, 2023 by Carter
HungryByTheBuffet Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Carter said: girl all i said if one of them has the right to invade its hamas out of all the terrorist group i listed. to them its revenge to the IDF its ethnic cleansing. Be that as it may be from your point of view, your comments and posts do nothing but further radicalize both victims and other people, you've been extremely inhuman and unable to recognize all parties involved as humans throughout this entire thread. A terrorist group isn't valid for its action because of "revenge", and hyping Hamas in any way when they are harming Palestinians and have been a huge weight on their shoulders for years now is just irresponsible and I don't believe you're looking out for Palastines citizens when your words are so bloodthirsty.
HungryByTheBuffet Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Carter said: do you actually believe that? i'm genuinely wondering? or you using gifs and emoji is very telling how serious you take the situation, its like some sort of stan war tbh all i know the IDF is not a reliable source. I believe it not because the IDF said so but because I've seen countless videos I wish I hadn't, and heard the statements made by not just Israel but other countries too, survivors who escaped, etc. on the contrary, I haven't seen any good evidence to refute the evidence and claims so I find it inhuman. It would have been one thing if the whole thing wasn't heavily filmed and shared on Telegram and other socials but that just wasn't the case. edit: and regarding my gifs I'm allowed to express myself how I want but I'm sorry if you found my gif use offensive, I'll stop for now. I can assure you I take the situation seriously & that's why I chose the gifs I did! To be completely honest gif use and not being overly serious is the only way I'd be able to properly communicate with you without feeling terrible, the supporting violence while denying victims is too tough to debate with you without the tension relief. Edited October 16, 2023 by HungryByTheBuffet
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, HungryByTheBuffet said: A terrorist group isn't valid for its action because of "revenge", and hyping Hamas in any way when they are harming Palestinians and have been a huge weight on their shoulders for years now is just irresponsible and I don't believe you're looking out for Palastines citizens when your words are so bloodthirsty. the fact you’re only holding HAMAS responsible for those palestinian deaths, i don’t see you holding israel responsible for the israeli deaths for escalating the situation! this is very insulting to your intelligence, unfortunately. can’t argue with a wall
Chemist Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Very normal government. No different than North Korea or Russia
bjorn Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Carter said: HAMAS has the right to invade Israel more than the right for Israel to invade gaza. That’s ****** up to say. Hamas is a terrorist organisation who want to eradicate jews from the planet targeting civilians. You’re basically saying they have more rights to murder Israeli civilians… 1 1
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said: Be that as it may be from your point of view, your comments and posts do nothing but further radicalize both victims and other people, you've been extremely inhuman and unable to recognize all parties involved as humans throughout this entire thread. being pro-palatine is inhuman people, do you hear that??? ok it.
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, bjorn said: That’s ****** up to say. Hamas is a terrorist organisation who want to eradicate jews from the planet targeting civilians. You’re basically saying they have more rights to murder Israeli civilians… do you want me to qoute everyone who justified the killing of palestine citizens? if anything i said invade and you twisted my words made into killing like isn’t israel bombing gaza now killing more than 2k as of now and your only concern is the israelis? the last time i checked invasion means occupation not killing but ok.
HungryByTheBuffet Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Carter said: the fact you’re only holding HAMAS responsible for those palestinian deaths, i don’t see you holding israel responsible for the israeli deaths for escalating the situation! this is very insulting to your intelligence, unfortunately. can’t argue with a wall From where I'm standing that's exactly what I have done in this thread, haven't seen you do the same with Hamas though beyond justifications. Evidently, Israelis hold their gov responsible to some degree according to the latest polls with a huge tank in votes for the current leading party and individuals around 30% now. Have seen plenty of voices against the extremes going on in Gaza now, they are just respectful and understand the horrific horrors that happened last week too, you might just not be seeing these voices because you're in sorts of an echo chamber and that makes humans lose their value, radicalize, and make people bloodthirsty. I'm sure if the Middle East realized that all along the answer was more war we'd be living in utopia! oh wait
HungryByTheBuffet Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Carter said: being pro-palatine is inhuman people, do you hear that??? ok it. Being anti-anyone who resides in/stepped into for an unlucky time/sympathizes with citizens of a country makes one inhuman yes. Being unable to see humanity in some and only in others is a lot of things I'm not gonna say, but inhuman is one of them yes.
bjorn Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Carter said: do you want me to qoute everyone who justified the killing of palestine citizens? if anything i said invade and you twisted my words made into killing like isn’t israel bombing gaza now killing more than 2k as of now and your only concern is the israelis? the last time i checked invasion means occupation not killing but ok. Hamas invading means = murdering and erasing all jews women, children and elderly. No one is spared. Which we just got proof of last weekend. What the Israeli state is doing to the Palestinian civilians in Gaza is equally as awful.
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, HungryByTheBuffet said: Being anti-anyone who resides in/stepped into for an unlucky time/sympathizes with citizens of a country makes one inhuman yes. Being unable to see humanity in some and only in others is a lot of things I'm not gonna say, but inhuman is one of them yes. quote me one time when i was talking about one person deserves to die, I DARE YOU! im talking about the people who run the country, never and will never bring citizens and say they deserve to die specially the israelis. I DARE YOU. PEOPLE solely holding HAMAS responsible only based on headlines of beheaded babies and rape. THE DAMAGE IS DONE and you’re a prove of it
ALBAVEASP Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Carter said: 1947: December 30: Haifa, Palestine - 39 dead Irgun: a Zionist terrorist organization, threw bombs at a group of 100 Palestinian Arab refinery workers December 31: Haifa, Palestine - 71 dead Haganah: a Zionist paramilitary organization, attacked residents of the Balad al-Shaykh village while being alseep 1948: April 9: Dar Yassin - 200+ dead both Irgun & Lehi attacked the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem May 23: Tantura, Occupied Palestine - 200+ dead IDF attacked the village of Tantura and massacred up to 200 of its Palestinian arab inhabitants. July 11: Lydda, Occupied Palestine - 400+ deaths Over 150 Palestinian Arab civilians were massacred after an IDF soldier dug a hole in the wall of the mosque and shot an anti-tank shell through it. now that hamas is using their tactic and strategy and how they occupied the land to begin with one named a terrorist organization and the other one celebrated and cheered by most world leaders? what not to get here? when i get reported for supporting hamas by just being Pro-Palestine or called antisemitic remember you’re the one who’s siding with a terrorist state and condoning it. HAMAS has the right to invade Israel more than the right for Israel to invade gaza. Can someone moderate this guy? There’s nothing wrong voicing out your opinions, but if you are making fun of r—ped victims, agreeing with genocide and a literal terrorist group is just not it.
Carter Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, bjorn said: Hamas invading means = murdering and erasing all jews women, children and elderly. No one is spared. Which we just got proof of last weekend. the only mass murder committed by who we’re talking about is the israeli state. and the millions that lost their lives and was displaced by force. the fact the palestinian flag is considered an offensive now tells alot. 1
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