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3 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said:

Sorry but focusing this much on the account and not the actual content that speaks for itself is incredibly disingenuous. 

It’s rather disingenuous to pretend that the organization does not have an agenda.  It just seems that you support that agenda and thus are perfectly content with ignoring it.  

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7 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

So do you guys side with Russia-Iran-China-North Korea on any other issues or only when it comes to Israel? just wondering

So you can no longer defense Israel then trying to assume people who support Palestine is now supporting those countries too :hoetenks:

 

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1 minute ago, byzantium said:

It’s a country of over 300 million people.  If your political agenda so requires, you can find anyone professing any type of view if you look hard enough.  It’s a common right wing tactic in American politics.  They will go out searching for individuals who “cross the line” or are “shocking” as justification to promote hatred for an entire group.  
 

This happens all the time against LGBT individuals, and thus it is pretty easy to spot the tactics. 

The radicals of any social group are just the worst. The awful actions of a few taint the image of the larger group. 
 

Seeing the awful radicals of both sides (taunting Gaza’s lack of resources and on the other side celebrating the hamas attack) is just so bizarre. 

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1 minute ago, byzantium said:

It’s a country of over 300 million people.  If your political agenda so requires, you can find anyone professing any type of view if you look hard enough.  It’s a common right wing tactic in American politics.  They will go out searching for individuals who “cross the line” or are “shocking” as justification to promote hatred for an entire group.  

I hope you and others are keeping that same energy for both sides. 

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2 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said:

I hope you and others are keeping that same energy for both sides. 

I have told you multiple times I condemn all violence and hatred.  Yet I have not seen the same from you.  

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3 minutes ago, Buffy said:

Can someone please help me understand this news article? Where exactly can the people of Gaza relocate to? Last I heard there was a total blockade unless something has changed now?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/now-time-war-says-israels-221628834.html

There's nowhere to relocate, Israel gives early warning just so they can get away with the bombing and say "We told you to move, you failed to do it so it was your fault not us"

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5 minutes ago, Buffy said:

Can someone please help me understand this news article? Where exactly can the people of Gaza relocate to? Last I heard there was a total blockade unless something has changed now?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/now-time-war-says-israels-221628834.html

It seems you understand the issue.  The blockade has not changed.  There is no plan or direction for where the people should go.  And quite honestly, the IDF does not care.  They are not invested in protecting and respecting the lives of innocent civilians.  They just want  to be able to pretend like they are the good guys because they gave “warnings” before they kill a bunch of innocent families and children. 

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Just now, byzantium said:

I have told you multiple times I condemn all violence and hatred.  Yet I have not seen the same from you.  

I do, and I challenge you to find a post of mine here that would suggest otherwise.

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6 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said:

I do, and I challenge you to find a post of mine here that would suggest otherwise.

Great so we are in agreement.  

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12 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

There's nowhere to relocate, Israel gives early warning just so they can get away with the bombing and say "We told you to move, you failed to do it so it was your fault not us"

That’s what I thought… 

 

10 minutes ago, Shelter said:

They just have to go south and stay there. They can’t leave 

I’m confused. Isn’t south where the borderline is between Gaza and Israel? Isn’t that the war zone? Is there really a safe location for civilians in Gaza? Aren’t there like 4 million people that live there? Gaza doesn’t seem like that big of a country for people to evade the war. :psyduck:

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But but Hamas......

 

 

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1 minute ago, Buffy said:

That’s what I thought… 

 

I’m confused. Isn’t south where the borderline is between Gaza and Israel? Isn’t that the war zone? Is there really a safe location for civilians in Gaza? Aren’t there like 4 million people that live there? Gaza doesn’t seem like that big of a country for people to evade the war. :psyduck:

The whole Gaza is war zone, there's no safe place in there. Heck even the Rafah border which is next to Egypt was subjected to Israel bombardment a few days ago :hoetenks:

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1 hour ago, Mitsouko said:

Is there one person in here who is capable of admitting that both sides fight dirty, and condemning both? Is there one person who can say that the treacherous Israeli government is interested in wiping out Palestine from the face of the earth and that Hamas is a radical jihadist terror group with an expected penchant for barbarism and bloodshed? Palestinians deserve a better defense than these animals.

 

Because all I see is I’m right, you’re wrong, they started it, no they started it, Israel is defending itself, Israel deserved it after 70 years. There is no justification for the Israeli government’s actions in the past and present; there is no justification for Hamas’ means of attack.

 

Israel is a violent oppressive occupier and apartheid state and Hamas is a terrorist organization with no respect for any human life. Condemn them both. What is defending Netanyahu or a terrorist organization doing for you?

I don't think anyone is defending Hamas but as I mentioned before they are a product of Israeli occupation. Whilst both groups are indeed awful, there is a huge power inbalance too. Israel is wealthy and highly developed with billions of dollars of US/Western funding whilst Gaza was described as an open air prison by the UN.  They are both doing heinous things but it's not the same. 

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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJ3E5DU3/

 

This is insane... That's how the people in power think about the innocent civilians... They mean nothing to them. They will push their propaganda till they get what they want.

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1 minute ago, Wolf Alice said:

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJ3E5DU3/

 

This is insane... That's how the people in power think about the innocent civilians... They mean nothing to them. They will push their propaganda till they get what they want.

This is truely heartbreaking.  It’s disgusting that this person does not feel an ounce of shame and in fact feels offended that the presenter asked the individual to care about literal children . 

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7 hours ago, Cloröx said:

I agreed that Hamas should release the hostage but then again without this hostage situation Israel is always that aggressive killing Gaza people, impose blockade, denying innocent citizen their basic right for decades

No. There is no then again.

 

What are you saying here?

Do you agree with Hamas taking hostages? 

Are you a Hamas apologist?

 

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38 minutes ago, byzantium said:

I have told you multiple times I condemn all violence and hatred.  Yet I have not seen the same from you.  

You’re talking to the guy that’s known for comparing black women like Beyoncé to apes, so I wouldn’t expect that from him at all.

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3 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

No. There is no then again.

 

What are you saying here?

Do you agree with Hamas taking hostages? 

Are you a Hamas apologist?

 

When did I say that? You running out of idea to defend your beloved IDF now start twisting people words? Do better

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Just now, Cloröx said:

When did I say that? You running out of idea to defend your beloved IDF now start twisting people words? Do better

You said that when you said "then again."

 

So go ahead and denounce Hamas. 

 

This is me...

I denounce IDF. I denounce Hamas. 

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For as long as people don’t recognize Netanyahu as a fascist and he is not taken down with the same fervor employed with Hamas, we’re going to see the same violence operating again and again.

 

Netanyahu and his government does not make a distinction between Palestinians and Hamas.

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10 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

You’re talking to the guy that’s known for comparing black women like Beyoncé to apes, so I wouldn’t expect that from him at all.

Oh gosh.  I did not realize that was them.  It makes sense now.  

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