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12 hours ago, Communion said:

No one is doing this. 

 

People are disgusted at a far right user - whom you seemingly agree with - often posting random and isolated incidents of awful things related to nations that the US or its vassal states end up bombing.

 

Even when this behavior is literally against the rules.

 

You're not meant to post isolated incidents of disturbing content like this. And yet users like the OP and others will often post things like individual cases or single cases of child abuse or something awful despite its lack of newsworthiness and not being allowed in the forum rules. 

 

The rules and mods have made it clear something indicating newsworthiness or a trend warrant being posted. 

 

Ex: "NGO finds as many as 1 in 10 Iraqi girls are missing," "UN condemns Palestinian Authority for trend in human trafficking girls". None of these being real headlines but to give examples. 

 

That is different from the constant attempts by often right wing users hoping to post disturbing content to incite inflammatory posts about certain ethnic groups. 

 

Ex: "Kenyan MIGRANT found guilty of RAPING a 8 year old GIRL in Bristol".

 

This reads like a Daily Mail or Natiobal Enquirer muckrake headline meant to incite racist animosity and ethnic demonization. It's low quality and low effort trolling. 

 

Do better than running cover virulent racists. 

You're the LAST person who should be preaching this. 
 

Me: your source doesn't say what you says it does

 

You: Zionist! Nazi! Libertarian! Not apolitical! Israel Supporter! 
 

Me: minding my business, drinking my water, supporting peace in the Middle East, donating to Palestinians charities 

 

You: ZIONIST NAZI! 

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You: Biden is a Nazi unless he signs me a cheque for $20,000. The difference between me and genocide is $20,000! I'm a single voter issue! 

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4 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

You're the LAST person who should be preaching this. 
 

Me: your source doesn't say what you says it does

 

You: Zionist! Nazi! Libertarian! Not apolitical! Israel Supporter! 

 

4 hours ago, family.guy123 said:

You: Biden is a Nazi unless he signs me a cheque for $20,000. The difference between me and genocide is $20,000! I'm a single voter issue! 

 

On 9/29/2024 at 4:03 PM, family.guy123 said:

 

On 9/29/2024 at 7:06 PM, Communion said:

Your fact-check says that nearly 70% of Israelis think gang rape does not warrant criminal prosecution if done by IDF soldiers. 

 

On 9/30/2024 at 12:19 AM, family.guy123 said:

It *checks notes* doesn't.

 

Has nothing to do with what we're talking about even if it *checks notes* did. 
 

But you should Xweet out your little interpretation and then make a new thread for that Xweet. 

 

On 10/2/2024 at 12:02 AM, Communion said:

I mean, it quite literally does?

 

On 10/2/2024 at 12:31 AM, family.guy123 said:

Check your notes again mate. 

 

On 10/2/2024 at 12:42 AM, family.guy123 said:

The labels you assign to my values mean nothing to me. Especially coming from someone who uses Atrl on desktop. 

Girl what :redface:

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They lied and said they're only targeting Hamas, now there's no Hamas in the West Bank, yet they're using warplanes to bomb areas there.

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Not Israeli forces trying to be promoted to the world as saviours when they have over 10,000 Palestinians captured in horrendous circumstances and living conditions in Israeli prisons lol

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1 hour ago, BorderBoy said:

Now there's no Hamas in the West Bank

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Khaled Mashal, a senior figure in Hamas, urged the revival of suicide bombings in the West Bank during a speech on Wednesday, according to reports from Arabic media.

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99 US physicians & medical professionals published a letter and report indicating "probative evidence that the human toll in Gaza... is already greater than 118,908, an astonishing 5.4% of Gaza's population".

 

"Every day I saw babies die. They had been born healthy. Their mothers were so malnourished that they could not breastfeed, and we lacked formula or clean water to feed them, so they starved."

— Asma Taha, pediatric nurse practitioner

 

"Gaza was the first time I held a baby's brains in my hand. The first of many."

— Dr. Mark Perlmutter, orthopedic and hand surgeon

 

"Children are universally considered innocents in armed conflict. However, every single signatory to this letter saw children in Gaza who suffered violence that must have been deliberately directed at them. Specifically, every single one of us who worked in an emergency, intensive care, or surgical setting treated pre-teen children who were shot in the head or chest on a regular or even a daily basis. It is impossible that such widespread shooting of young children throughout Gaza, sustained over the course of an entire year is accidental or unknown to the highest Israeli civilian and military authorities."

 

https://www.gazahealthcareletters.org/usa-letter-oct-2-2024

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2 threads on the US govt's knowledge in the last year of Israel breaking int'l law and supplying weapons anyways:

 

 

 

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B-b-but trump!?!!?!

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2 hours ago, Maddox said:

 

B-b-but trump!?!!?!

Can't wait for this monster's funeral.

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Health workers in Lebanon describe deadly Israeli attacks on colleagues and fear more
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/health-workers-lebanon-describe-deadly-israeli-attacks-colleagues-114532864

 

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A Lebanese Red Cross convoy, escorted by Lebanese troops and coordinated with the U.N. peacekeeping force in Lebanon, came under fire on Thursday. A Lebanese soldier was killed and four Red Cross volunteers were wounded.

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Lebanon's health ministry has said nine hospitals and 45 health care centers have been damaged during that time.

Lebanon's health system struggles as dozens of clinics close amid Israeli airstrikes
BMJ 2024; 387 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.q2176 (Published 03 October 2024)
https://www.bmj.com/content/387/bmj.q2176

 

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Lebanon's healthcare system is facing "immense challenges" after five facilities were targeted in airstrikes and 38 staff were killed, the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs has warned.

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In a situation update on 2 October, the UN said Israel has continued to "target densely populated areas across Lebanon" for a second consecutive week, "driving waves of displacement and further exacerbating the needs of affected and displaced populations." Around 40 primary healthcare centres have been forced to close.

All of these are war crimes, which will have the full support of the Biden-Harris government, and in November, the support of US voters.

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6 hours ago, nooniebao said:

 

Interesting that Israel is basically dropping Blinken in it now. Almost like they're trying to deflect. Pretending they're so independent with their genocidal decisions all year long but now it's the United States agreed and approved.

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11 minutes ago, Mean Trees said:

Interesting that Israel is basically dropping Blinken in it now. Almost like they're trying to deflect. Pretending they're so independent with their genocidal decisions all year long but now it's the United States agreed and approved.

They want a Trump presidency. Not because Biden has ever gone against them, but because it'll be even harder to protest their actions under the GOP.

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14 hours ago, Virgos Groove said:

They want a Trump presidency. Not because Biden has ever gone against them, but because it'll be even harder to protest their actions under the GOP.

and that moron Biben has been doing their bidding, which will probably mean the Trump wins the presidency. The USA really needs abolishing right after Israel is abolished too.

 

Long live the resistance

 

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Also, a statement from Queers in Palestine, which I urge all those 'Israel is a gay haven' morons to read:

 

Language: Unworded by colonial violence, resisting erasure

After a year of an ongoing genocide, ethnic cleansing, attempts of expansion by the Zionist settler-colonial project, and of our ongoing steadfast global revolt, we are delivering a message from Palestine, to the world, while words cannot convey the depths of our collective trauma or the radical resistance we embody. Words collapse as we bear witness to the destruction of bodies, lands, histories, and futures. Language can no longer hold the weight of our suffering, our rage, our endless grief. It cannot do justice to our feelings and experiences. While capitalism and colonialism's forces of death and destruction are wounding the world, we are still determined to deliver our voice, we are still moved by the force of life, and will always move with and towards it.

 

Palestine and Lebanon: One land in grief and struggle

The Zionist colonial entity still exists because colonial and imperialist powers are supporting and funding it. These are the same powers that produced the Sykes-Picot colonial agreement that fragmented Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan and other Arab nations in 1916 by enforcing borders on our lands. We live with the implications of these systems. We deeply embody the knowledge of this violence, and have been trying to warn the world that these powers neither see our humanity nor respect our sovereignty. The world's promises of justice and accountability through colonial international laws and institutions only reproduce violence and harm with no transformation. The very existence of these colonial powers is built on the (social) death and exploitation of others. The same tactics of annihilation that have been used in Gaza since last October are now also used in Lebanon. They are reaching us all––from surveillance tools of political repression, to weapons for direct killings. From corporations to other colonial structures, if we do not dismantle these systems, they will continue to consume us all.

 

Zionism: Threat against humanity

Zionist settler colonialism has been perpetrated against the land of Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Palestine. But it does not stop there: Zionism is a global threat. While Palestine is used as the Zionist entity's testing-ground to develop technologies of oppression (including cyber invasions and technological warfare) to control the people and suppress resistance worldwide, these Zionist inventions are exported and used for state violence to further colonial, imperial and capitalist expansion. The Zionist entity's influence extends to geopolitics and resource extraction across Latin America and Africa––from mining projects in Namibia, to diamond extraction in Angola, and 'Cop City' in the USA–– and its aggression can only be contained through struggle and abolition.

 

The myth of individualism and separation

Individualism is an instrument of the systems of (neo)liberalism, racial capitalism and colonialism. It is designed to destroy our collectives and community practices through fragmentation and separation––from each other, the land, the planet and universe, and from ourselves. The illusion of separation denies our autonomy, our sovereignty over our bodies and land. We resist this colonial myth of individualism that serves oppressive systems. We are interdependent and our struggles are interconnected and intersectional––there is no such thing as individual liberation. No one is free, until we are all free.

 

On the path of abolition and transformation

Our reality, and our queer, feminist, radical truths, cannot be quantified. They cannot be reduced to data, to screens, to consumable images. The genocidal violence we face and resist everyday, is not an event to be documented. This deep rupture is a tearing apart of the fabric of life that demands something more than mere speech. It demands action and transformation. And it necessitates abolition. Abolition not just through the dismantling of prisons and the destruction of all carceral systems—but the refusal of all structures that seek to imprison and kill our bodies, our desires, our lands, our futures. Abolition is a direct confrontation with the forces that seek to erase us on the path towards life-affirming and systemic transformation, it is to radically imagine and build a different future from the present.

 

Hope as a radical practice

Our bodies ache with exhaustion, our spirits bruised by the relentless weight of oppression. In this land stolen from us, where we live the genocide in our every moment, hope is a radical practice. We are warriors, survivors, rebels. We will not be extinguished. The world's indifference is a betrayal––we know that. We will not allow our disappointment to consume us. Fuelled by our collective rage and grief, we unite and empower us. Still amidst these difficult times, we channel our hope as a collective force of resistance to the very foundation of these unjust systems, in Palestine and everywhere. We will not only survive this genocide, we will thrive––reclaiming our stolen land and building a future free from the chains of patriarchy, colonialism, capitalism and zionism.

 

Constant transformative struggle towards collective liberation

One year later, we continue to call for the world to:

  • Be radical, feminist, queer, intersectional, decolonial, and abolitionist in our resistances: fuelled by rage, love and longing for justice, transformation and collective liberation. 
  • Resist the hegemonic colonial narrative: do not stop talking about Palestine with your kin, queer siblings, friends and community. Challenge the colonial and Islamophobic framing of Palestinian and racialized voices as antisemitic.
  • Escalate all forms of disruption of the colonial and capitalist systems enabling this violence. Rage and strike against the use of your labor and tax money to fund, support, and endorse settler colonialism and genocide. Fight against governments and hold them accountable for their military, diplomatic, economic, and political relations with and support to Israel.
  • Rage and grieve as radical forces for change: together we channel our anger and grief towards a world free of Zionism and all other systems of oppression. 
  • Radically imagine a different world and put this imagination into practice by organizing to fight current systems and build the future from the present.

Always re-membering: honoring those we have lost, and standing steadfast in resistance by all means possible.

 

https://www.instagram.com/queersinpalestine/

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"We won't bow to the radical, woke, anti-Zionist Jew haters"

 

The fact that being against genocide and ethnic cleaning makes you a radical woke Jew hater? :psyduck:
 

I cannot believe this idiot is going to be our next prime minister.

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