State of Grace. Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) Herzl, Jabotinsky, Nordau, Ben-Gurion, Ussishkin, etc: Zionism is a colonial idea, adventure, project. Zionists in 2024: actually we're indigenous! we're decolonizing the land! Take it with your national heroes and founding fathers ***** before you come here screaming "LEFT QANON!!!! CONSPIRACIES!!" Edited February 5 by State of Grace. 5 1 1
Gov Hooka Posted February 6 Posted February 6 4 hours ago, N.M.K. said: 30K leaving is proof a country of 9+ million will "pack up and leave." For the millions of Jews/their descendants who were ethnically cleansed from surrounding middle eastern countries in the 20th century and sought refuge in Israel – where exactly are they picking up and going to? They're not going anywhere Yawn, tired narrative… for those who don’t already flee (because they can’t handle living alongside Palestinians not being second class citizens) and aren’t prosecuted and punished for war crimes as part of their participation in the IOF/Govt admin, they can choose to remain in ONE Palestinian state that allows the right of return to 10 million in the diaspora. Btw that aid from the west propping up the Zionist project is gonna dry up eventually (likely in the coming few decades -cracks are already appearing in US hegemony) and Palestinians and Arabs are not going to ever forget this genocide… Israel has basically assured its destruction in the longterm and shown the younger generation (especially in the West) they are and have always been the bad guys 1
N.M.K. Posted February 6 Posted February 6 2 hours ago, State of Grace. said: Herzl, Jabotinsky, Nordau, Ben-Gurion, Ussishkin, etc: Zionism is a colonial idea, adventure, project. Zionists in 2024: actually we're indigenous! we're decolonizing the land! Take it with your national heroes and founding fathers ***** before you come here screaming "LEFT QANON!!!! CONSPIRACIES!!" I can't tell if your post is just in bad faith or genuinely misinformed. Likely the latter since it's probably rooted in IG infographics / TikTok videos and fake news sites like the one posted above. The land of Israel was and always has been the ancestral homeland of Jews– which holidays, customs, and traditions are all revolved around and have been for literally thousands of years. On Jewish holidays that have been observed for millennia, the services conclude with "next year in Jerusalem." Jewish holidays are rooted in the land and agriculture of Israel, as in many indigenous cultures and their ancestral lands. Your conflation of "colonialism" and its out-of-context usage is not the colonialism to which you are referring to or the meaning of the word as used today. Regardless, while Google is free, here's just one of many explanations of trying to ascribe modern-day colonialism to the state of Israel: https://jewishstudies.washington.edu/israel-hebrew/why-israel-isnt-a-settler-colonial-state/. No one has changed their idea of what Israel is for. It was a project – an ideal – to finally return the Jewish people to their homeland after expulsion from that land and thousands of years of persecution and subjugation throughout the world. No conspiracy or hiding that 5
SmittenCake Posted February 6 Posted February 6 2 hours ago, N.M.K. said: Damn so sad to see people fall victim to conspiracy theories but sadly not surprising. Still scary though Its not a conspiracy and I haven't seen you not once condemn the IDF and the isreali government for their genocide. You are the one that's consuming propaganda. 2
Communion Posted February 6 Posted February 6 7 hours ago, N.M.K. said: 30K leaving is proof a country of 9+ million will "pack up and leave." For the millions of Jews/their descendants who were ethnically cleansed from surrounding middle eastern countries in the 20th century and sought refuge in Israel – where exactly are they picking up and going to? They're not going anywhere Genuinely very odd to rightfully be upset over the reactionary violence Jewish communities across the MENA faced following Israel committing the Nakba but have nothing to say about the systemic mistreatment of native Jews in the region under Ashkenazification, let alone your silence over whatever you want to claim this is that Israel is doing: Do you think images like compel the international community or people whose tax dollars you beg for to care or not whether your country's borders are wiped off the map and become a distant memory? 2
Luckitty Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) will the world ever talk about jewish extremism & jewish supremacy in israel? it's crazy that we have daily videos of israelis assaulting or even killing muslims and christians because of their religion and/or ethnicity and it's not reported anywhere in the world... Edited February 6 by Luckitty 1 1
ZeroSuitBritney Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I love seeing this b*tch stress out. Forever a CLOWN! 5 1
ClashAndBurn Posted February 7 Posted February 7 5 hours ago, SmittenCake said: what took so long? Apparently this is in contradiction to a claim made by John Kirby, the serial liar and propagandist 1
thesegayz Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Yikes at this thread full of Jewish space laser conspiracy theorists—when did ATRL become full of MTG’s? The Middle East is a bungled mess thanks to western powers. The patriarchy-heavy, Islamic-led countries have no tolerance for diversity, rule of law, or liberal democracy. how can we go from lifting up Malala and decrying extremist Islamic positions to now screaming that Israel is the sole aggressor in the Middle East, when the Middle East started falling apart post Iranian Revolution and Arab Spring? Israel was always on the back foot, it was a mistake for the US and allies to arm it the way it did, because Netanyahu and the IDF want to exterminate Palestine. That’s not the position of most Israelis. That’s the position extremists online want you to take to advance an agenda that’s questionable at best, incongruent with our (flawed, but more free than most people in history, again) way life thats the irony of these “arguments” made online. You all love to pretend you’re so enlightened, but you’re actively asking for a regression to the dark ages. Look at ******* Afghanistan, the US bungled a transfer of power, and women fell right where the Islamic patriarchy wants them: out of power. Stop pretending your keyboard warrior positions are simple solutions, because nothing about the Middle East is simple. It’s like you all love to admit your head is stuck in the digital sand of your online echo chambers proudly. 2 6
State of Grace. Posted February 7 Posted February 7 1 hour ago, thesegayz said: Netanyahu and the IDF want to exterminate Palestine. That’s not the position of most Israelis. The majority of Israelis are either supporting the IDF's crimes or thinking they're not doing enough as shown in poll after poll after poll since October Now log in from your main account and come back here to spread your silly ass Zionist propaganda 6 1
ClashAndBurn Posted February 7 Posted February 7 The IDF not only kills themselves with friendly fire, but also unarmed, naked, escaped Israeli hostages. But some Jewish scientists at some point in the past invented the atomic bomb, so that clearly means the IDF is neither incompetent nor disorganized. 4
Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) fake allies disgust me btw. As the infamous rapper once said - I like my racists racist. Don't try to play good cop. Edited February 7 by Jjang 2
Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) Netanyahu just now: "IDF has killed over 20,000 Hamas soldiers" He also claims they are "months away" from "total victory" and that Israel will 100% control Gaza after the war. Edited February 7 by Jjang 1
SmittenCake Posted February 7 Posted February 7 17 minutes ago, Jjang said: Netanyahu just now: "IDF has killed over 20,000 Hamas soldiers" He also claims they are "months away" from "total victory" and that Israel will 100% control Gaza after the war. I never hear about IDF casualties. Only innocent civilians. Not sure what to believe. Is he lying? Or is his statement true to an extent ?
Jjang Posted February 7 Posted February 7 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SmittenCake said: I never hear about IDF casualties. Only innocent civilians. Not sure what to believe. Is he lying? Or is his statement true to an extent ? He said 20,000 Hamas members have been killed by the IDF, not vice versa. Which is clearly a big fat lie lol. I think the revealed number of fallen IDF soldiers in Gaza is ~ 600. I'm sure in reality the number is much higher though however. We won't know the true scope of destruction and casualties (on both sides) of this war until after it ends really. Edited February 7 by Jjang 1
ZeroSuitBritney Posted February 7 Posted February 7 No surprise, Israel has turned down Hamas' reasonable ceasefire offer. 3
State of Grace. Posted February 8 Posted February 8 14 hours ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: No surprise, Israel has turned down Hamas' reasonable ceasefire offer. and the minions here are still scream "but the hostages!!! bring them home!!" 1 1 2
GhostBox Posted February 8 Posted February 8 16 hours ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: No surprise, Israel has turned down Hamas' reasonable ceasefire offer. Neither side will accept the others ceasefire offer. Until they can come together and make a deal TOGETHER we probably won’t have another ceasefire again during this conflict
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