news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[Communion]

2 minutes ago, N.M.K. said:

Yes this is merely just a child not wanting to share his candy. 

Literally, unironically, yes. And the average person thinks you're insinuations otherwise are insane. You're literally that far gone if this is where you find yourself as an Israeli. 

[ZIVERT]

Just now, CroNich said:

Okay and for every 1 Israeli who has to go through this there are about 100 Palestinians who have dealt with much worse. Why is her life/experience more important or valid than that of a Palestinian? Is it because she’s an ‘innocent white lady’

Did I say anywhere in my post that her life/experience was more important or valid than that of a Palestinian? Nowhere in my post did I say she had it any better or worse than the average Palestinian in Gaza, don’t project your own thoughts and feelings onto me.

[Communion]

13 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

Yes, I was privileged enough to leave Ukraine for America in 2022 as it was being bombed

Which is why most users find it unhinged that you're siding with Israel now bombing Palestine. What's not clicking?? 

[N.M.K.]

8 minutes ago, CroNich said:

**** this lady, **** Israel and **** any one on this website who sympathises and/or supports them. You all make me sick. 

Sad that your blind hatred has justified saying “****” someone holding empathy to a literal hostage. I pray you or your family is never put in a comprable situation. Taking for the sake of argument that Israel merely are colonizers on Palestinian land (ignoring Arab colonization of the area and Jewish ties to the land for millennia) and a Native American tribe took 1400 American civilian hostages including your friends family and neighbors. This would be your reaction?

[ZIVERT]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

Which is why most users find it unhinged that you're siding with Israel now bombing Palestine. What's not clicking?? 

Why don’t you Westplain the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Israel-Palestine conflict to me some more? Maybe then I’ll get it 

[Communion]

Just now, ZIVERT said:

Why don’t you Westplain the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Israel-Palestine conflict to me some more? Maybe then I’ll get it 

I don't have to when you're Westsplaining to Palestinian users why Mia Schem is justified in saying "no child is innocent" when her country is currently doing this to their country:

 

 

[Bhabylon]

This lady deadass said there are no innocent Gazans? Because a child didn’t give her candy  Wonder what she has to say about what the IDF has been doing to the people of Gaza for years 

Edited January 5, 2024 by Bhabylon

[Jjang]

9 minutes ago, N.M.K. said:

Yes this is merely just a child not wanting to share his candy. The mental gymnastics to justify the unjustifiable is just sad. It’s okay to recognize that holding a young woman hostage is not OK without sacrificing your stance on bringing justice and dignity to Palestinians. 

18 year olds in Gaza today have lived their entire lives criminally confined in an illegal siege imposed on them by Israel. Their hate towards Israel is their trauma response. It’s absolutely sinister that you’d expect them to love Israelis. 

[C-Amber]

So no rape happened!

He raped her through his eyes?!?! Wtf is that? So he looked at her from distance and she felt that was rape?!?! What's next? "He raped me in his mind" will be next? 

 

And who the stupid and ignorant one thinking a child not giving you candy makes them evil? Wtf is this??

 

I've seen it all from these idiot Israelis and their supporters.

[N.M.K.]

10 minutes ago, Jjang said:

18 year olds in Gaza today have lived their entire lives criminally confined in an illegal siege imposed on them by Israel. Their hate towards Israel is their trauma response. It’s absolutely sinister that you’d expect them to love Israelis. 

Who is expecting them to love Israelis? 

[N.M.K.]

4 minutes ago, C-Amber said:

So no rape happened!

He raped her through his eyes?!?! Wtf is that? So he looked at her from distance and she felt that was rape?!?! What's next? "He raped me in his mind" will be next? 

 

And who the stupid and ignorant one thinking a child not giving you candy makes them evil? Wtf is this??

 

I've seen it all from these idiot Israelis and their supporters.

Did you listen to the interview or just Twitter quotes?

[ZIVERT]

14 minutes ago, Communion said:

I don't have to when you're Westsplaining to Palestinian users why Mia Schem is justified in saying "no child is innocent" when her country is currently doing this to their country:

 

 

So I think the solution here is for you to organize a class for Mia and me. Between you tone policing my criticism of Russians for the last 2 years, supporting the concept of no innocent Israelis ever, and now shaming Mia for generalizing all Gazans after being held hostage by a family there, my head is spinning as to when and how one can discuss their war trauma.

 

Mia can use one of her multiple passports all Israelis have, I can use my Ukrainian refugee in America privilege, and we can both come to you in New Jersey for lessons. We can even call it a re-education/deradicalization camp.

[Communion]

29 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

So I think the solution here is for you to organize a class for Mia and me. Between you tone policing my criticism of Russians for the last 2 years, supporting the concept of no innocent Israelis ever, and now shaming Mia for generalizing all Gazans after being held hostage by a family there, my head is spinning as to when and how one can discuss their war trauma.

 

Mia can use one of her multiple passports all Israelis have, I can use my Ukrainian refugee in America privilege, and we can both come to you in New Jersey for lessons. We can even call it a re-education/deradicalization camp.

Pointing out that I'm from America only reinforces my point that you clearly understand this paradigm of privilege and yet only engage with its rhetoric when it's beneficial to you, while essentially doing a kind of migrant minstrel show when called out on using *your* privilege relative to groups like Palestinians to *punch down* at people victim to the genocidal regimes *you* support. 

 

The irony being that wherever you're posting from is gonna be closer to me in America than to where users like @Jjang are.

 

But I guess you're aware since *users posting somewhere from North America or Europe and mocking a Palestinian in Israel* would be tone-deaf without such cosplay. 

 

Smugly typing the words "you should thank the Iron Dome for keeping you safe enough to complain about Israel" to a Palestinian and then having the nerve to talk about "privileged Westerners" despite literally being one. Is it crack? 

Edited January 5, 2024 by Communion

[Jjang]

44 minutes ago, Communion said:

I don't have to when you're Westsplaining to Palestinian users why Mia Schem is justified in saying "no child is innocent" when her country is currently doing this to their country:

 

 

This is gut wrenching. 

 

More children in Gaza have been murdered since October than civilians in total who died in Ukraine since the war. Ukraine has x20 the population of Gaza and yet x20 more children have died in Gaza thus far. That’s the literal statistic. I didn’t make that up. 

 

and we’re not understanding that saying no innocent children exist there is a heinous thing to say right now? Not even about Mia herself, just the overall message it’s sending to Israelis. 

[CroNich]

1 hour ago, N.M.K. said:

Sad that your blind hatred has justified saying “****” someone holding empathy to a literal hostage. I pray you or your family is never put in a comprable situation. Taking for the sake of argument that Israel merely are colonizers on Palestinian land (ignoring Arab colonization of the area and Jewish ties to the land for millennia) and a Native American tribe took 1400 American civilian hostages including your friends family and neighbors. This would be your reaction?

I don’t have time for anyone who is more interested in the experience/life of the 100 or so white Israeli hostages than the 30,000+ Palestinians killed in the last couple of months which seems to be half this thread. So yeah **** that. **** anyone who is contributing to that..

 

also I’m not American firstly so that argument is void and secondly I will always stand for the oppressed/colonised over the oppresser/coloniser.
 

this argument is truly giving ‘BuT dO YUo CoNDemN HaMAs’ vibe and therefore ignoring all the other atrocities that have been going on before and after October 7. It’s truly deranged and reeks of racism.

Edited January 5, 2024 by CroNich

[C-Amber]

20 minutes ago, N.M.K. said:

Did you listen to the interview or just Twitter quotes?

I watch the whole thing and it's even dumber, when she claimed she suffered a holocaust!!?? Seriously?? She also said her arm was shot and it was completely detached from her body, and it took them a while to take her then wrapped her arm to her body again without any surgical treatment for 3 days in plastic, AGAIN, her detached arm that she picked up from the floor, they simply put her again to her arms in plastic hours later, and it stayed like that for 3 DAYS and somehow I've seen her moving her fingers in that arm during the video!! Correct me if I'm wrong but Replantation of a detached body part need to be done immediately, especially an arm is needed to be done in maximum 8 hours after detachment or that body part is completely dead and they will never be able to put it back again, but somehow after 3 days they were able to put it back again? And to have the arm be alive again? And to move her fingers? And to take objects with it? Wow miracle! They must have the greatest medical team in Gaza!

[N.M.K.]

15 minutes ago, CroNich said:

I don’t have time for anyone who is more interested in the experience/life of the 100 or so white Israeli hostages than the 30,000+ Palestinians killed in the last couple of months which seems to be half this thread. So yeah **** that. **** anyone who is contributing to that..

 

also I’m not American firstly so that argument is void and secondly I will always stand for the oppressed/colonised over the oppresser/coloniser.
 

this argument is truly giving ‘BuT dO YUo CoNDemN HaMAs’ vibe and therefore ignoring all the other atrocities that have been going on before and after October 7. It’s truly deranged and reeks of racism.

Most of the hostages are not white. 

[CroNich]

4 minutes ago, N.M.K. said:

Most of the hostages are not white. 

Probably why the Israeli Government and IDF have no interest in actually trying to rescue and recover the remaining ones…

[Lil' Oz]

[Communion]

"...but candy"

 

 

[Delirious]

5 hours ago, N.M.K. said:

And by the way, just rewatched the video. She never even said “emotional rape.”  That is literally a made up translation via Twitter. Embarrassing @Delirious

I thought he used YouTube's automatic translation. Anyways can't really tell if he or someone else manipulated the translation for propaganda purposes which sucks. Also her face was censored when the OG version didn't have it censored so clearly that was at least manipulated 

[Delirious]

Like I can't believe you guys are still talking about her candy comment. Yes what she said was wrong but hello?? Let's not stray away from what happened to her.

 

This woman was literally kidnapped and tortured by the Hamas. She must be filled with rage and trauma. Not to mention that one comment she said doesn't have to do anything with what the Hamas have been doing to Israeli people.

 

The Hamas still tortured, raped and killed innocent Israeli people and straying off topic and making a fuss over the victims words will not change that. And it will not change the fact that the 85k folks who liked the tweet were fed fake information.

 

Insinuating or joking that she deserves to get kidnapped and tortured because of what she said is just disgusting. No matter which way you put it.

[Delirious]

6 hours ago, N.M.K. said:

This woman was shot in the arm, kidnapped, operated on without anesthesia by a vet, and held hostage for 50+ days after watching her friends be butchered. And she is referring to how the only reason why she wasn't raped was because her captors' wife was in the room, and that she was taunted by the family. And you're mocking her? The lack of humanity is disgusting – I don't care what your views are on Israel or Palestine. Shameful.

But but candy!!! But but what about what she said??? 

[Mean Trees]

5 hours ago, ZIVERT said:

Why don’t you Westplain the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Israel-Palestine conflict to me some more? Maybe then I’ll get it 

Drop it with the Westplain nonsense.. How fragile is the ''West'' when you, a Western establishment minded individual calls the minority opinion of the ''West'' ''Westplaining''.

[family.guy123]

1 hour ago, Delirious said:

But but candy!!! But but what about what she said??? 

Maybe it was a reaction to trauma for all we know