news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

literal child was brainwashed into taunting 

I didn't know only Palestinian children don't like sharing their candy with others. Who knew ypu could racially pathologize children for normal children behavior if they are a specific ethnicity. 

[dumbsparce]

4 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

 Judging by your post from another thread:

.....I wouldn't go around throwing the words "next level stupidity" like that  

You think you did sth? Me not fully comprehending the religious/geopolitical mess doesn't mean I can't make simple assumptions as "there are innocent people from both sides that shouldn't be punished". You're truly next level stupidity personified.

[dumbsparce]

6 minutes ago, Communion said:

Oh wow.....oh wow

Yes, and...? (to quote the person in your avi)

 

Fascism, racism and terrorism are taught from a young age.

Edited January 5, 2024 by dumbsparce

[indochine]

49 minutes ago, Jjang said:

I want to remind the OP that multiple members here shamelessly supported the direct and deliberate bombing and killing of Gazan poet Refaat Alareer because of a supposedly antisemitic tweet he made 10+ years ago. Members here supported a Palestinian man being slaughtered to pieces with his family because of a tweet. But we let that slide because “war radicalizes people”. 

 

I feel bad that she had this horrible experience as a Hamas hostage. She doesn’t have to be a saint in order for her to still be a victim. That is acknowledged. Done. 

 

That being said, in the midst of a literal active real and non fictional genocide where 31,000 Palestinians have been murdered, 60,000 more severely wounded, 2,000,000 displaced with no normal life to go back to because everything is destroyed; its hard for me to reserve my sympathy for someone who is literally championing that genocide and echoing genocidal tropes on live TV while 10,000 children have beeb slaughtered with not even an hour to mourn. 

 

in the bigger picture, Israelis haven’t experienced 1% of the destruction, oppression and torture inflicted on the Palestinian society, for 75 years nonetheless - I think that kinda has to do with why the majority of the global community has run out of patience and sympathy for the Israeli side. Maybe if you open your heart you’ll see it. I swear it’s easy. 

 

Amen.

[ZIVERT]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

I didn't know only Palestinian children don't like sharing their candy with others. Who knew ypu could racially pathologize children for normal children behavior if they are a specific ethnicity. 

This is stupid bait, even for you  

[Communion]

This woman being wheeled out by the government to both speak over other people held prisoner in Gaza (friendly reminder of those released who then cursed the government out for having no actual intel and almost killing them with indiscriminate bombing) and demonize Palestinians shows how poorly Zionists understand how the conflict they're in reads to people. 

 

In what should be a slam dunk propaganda campaign for Israel in finding someone released who agrees with all of Bibi's far right agenda, it is undercut by the underlying supremacist hatred Israelis have of Palestinians. 

 

So what should be an easy narrative for Western audiences to accept of scary brown Palestinian savages, Zionists still can't nail the landing because they're unable to stop themselves from saying things that actually sound like "Actually the 5 year old was an evil demon to and I pray for his death for not giving me candy, a dead Palestinian is a good Palestinian!"

 

Israel is an inherently racist, sociopathic society and these mask off moments by Zionists end up convincing the world that what they claim is true about Palestine is actually true for Israel. 

[Communion]

3 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

This is stupid bait, even for you  

You're a American man in his likely early 30s arguing on a pop culture forum that there's an argument to be made that some, if not all, Palestinian children are "evil"

 

I don't think any children are evil. 

 

I find it terrifying you can't find yourself at the same conclusion. 

[pisuke]

5 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

Fascism, racism and terrorism are taught from a young age.

That is exactly what Israel is and what is doing to Israelis. Told by themselves. 

[Communion]

7 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

Yes, and...? (to quote the person in your avi)

 

Fascism, racism and terrorism are taught from a young age.

Are you calling an unnamed child who might not even exist and who did not want to share his candy....a terrorist??

Edited January 5, 2024 by Communion

[State of Grace.]

20 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

Y’all hyperfocusing on “Boohoo she didn’t get candy” and purposefully missing the point that a literal child was brainwashed into taunting a kidnapped woman that his family was willingly holding hostage  

Aaaand in typical ZI(ONIST)VERT fashion, you completely ignored the part where she says there are no innocent civilians in Gaza. Quelle surprise!  

Edited January 5, 2024 by State of Grace.

[futurenostalgic]

lol zivert on a 10 minute break from sucking off nazis in ukraine 

 

nurse! 

[Communion]

1 minute ago, State of Grace. said:

ZI(ONIST)VERT 

Wait. 

[dumbsparce]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

Are you calling an unnamed child who might not even exist and who did not want to share his candy....a terrorist??

Why does it matter if she made it up or not? Lmao. Even in a hypothetical scenario, what will a child that was raised by terrorists and was taught to tease hostages become when they grow up?

 

The seeds have definitely been planted. Don't act stupid now.

[ZIVERT]

2 minutes ago, Communion said:

You're a American man in his likely early 30s arguing on a pop culture forum that there's an argument to be made that some, if not all, Palestinian children are "evil"

 

I don't think any children are evil. 

 

I find it terrifying you can't find yourself at the same conclusion. 

The way NONE of your ”exposes” are true, and NONE of those words ever from my account.   

 

But what IS true is that when you’re not writing essays in support of authoritarian/theocratic regimes on ATRL, you’re doing so on other pop forums under different usernames. So either you are being paid to disseminate propaganda on clueless Western gays, or just chronically online and VERY unemployed. It’s giving VERY weird behavior  

[JoJo]

27 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

Y’all hyperfocusing on “Boohoo she didn’t get candy” and purposefully missing the point that a literal child was brainwashed into taunting a kidnapped woman that his family was willingly holding hostage  

The problem is that she’s using her experience to justify the ongoing genocide in Gaza. The only reason she brought that story up was to dehumanize Palestinian children. If she actually wanted to start a conversation about how Palestinian children are “brainwashed,” she wouldn’t have called that kid evil and said that there were no innocent civilians. 

Edited January 5, 2024 by JoJo

[ZIVERT]

3 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

Aaaand in typical ZI(ONIST)VERT fashion, you completely ignored the part where she says there are no innocent civilians in Gaza. Quelle surprise!  

And yet here you are condemning her trauma response to being held hostage by a Palestinian family in this thread, yet agree with statements like “there are no innocent Israelis, they’re all soldiers” in response to murdered Israeli civilians in the mega-thread. PLEASE save me the faux outrage  

[Communion]

1 minute ago, dumbsparce said:

what will a child that was raised by terrorists

So you're abandoning the claim that Hamas is evil to Gazans and Gazans live under the terror of Hamas? And now the argument is that every Gazan is Hamas, even the toddlers?

 

You have to decide on one narrative. 

 

Either Hamas is singularly bad and oppress innocent Gazans (which would explain why random families agree to hold hostages when forced to by Hamas, which discredits the narrative of universal evil in Gazans spread by the woman) or you believe the family being willing to hold the hostage was of their complete free will and that all Gazans are terrorists. 

 

Which one do you think can save the failing PR campaign for Israel's ongoing genocide?

[N.M.K.]

This woman was shot in the arm, kidnapped, operated on without anesthesia by a vet, and held hostage for 50+ days after watching her friends be butchered. And she is referring to how the only reason why she wasn't raped was because her captors' wife was in the room, and that she was taunted by the family. And you're mocking her? The lack of humanity is disgusting – I don't care what your views are on Israel or Palestine. Shameful.

[N.M.K.]

3 minutes ago, JoJo said:

The problem is that she’s using her experience to justify the ongoing genocide in Gaza. The only reason she brought that story up was to dehumanize Palestinian children. If she actually wanted to start a conversation about how Palestinian children are “brainwashed,” she wouldn’t have called that kid evil and said that there were no innocent civilians. 

She is speaking about her experience being held hostage. And somehow here you are defending your vile comments mocking a victim. Seriously seek help

[Jjang]

7 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

Why does it matter if she made it up or not? Lmao. Even in a hypothetical scenario, what will a child that was raised by terrorists and was taught to tease hostages become when they grow up?

 

The seeds have definitely been planted. Don't act stupid now.

 

[Phaunzie]

No comment for this person

[N.M.K.]

You can advocate for a free Palestine without mocking a civilian taken hostage for 50+ days. 

Edited January 5, 2024 by N.M.K.

[State of Grace.]

Just now, ZIVERT said:

And yet here you are condemning her trauma response to being held hostage by a Palestinian family in this thread, yet agree with statements like “there are no innocent Israelis, they’re all soldiers” in response to murdered Israeli civilians in the mega-thread. PLEASE save me the faux outrage  

Sure, she was a victim and the experience was undoubtedly traumatizing. It goes without saying.

 

However, I am allowed to not feel any sympathy for this evil girl who is weaponizing her trauma to say ****** up **** like "children are evil" and "there are no innocent civilians in Gaza".

 

Israel strips their people of their civilian status by making the IDF service mandatory for all. I didn't make that up.

[N.M.K.]

1 minute ago, Jjang said:

 

I love this cherry picking. Your insinuation by posting this video is that the other side is doing it. So what is your point? That then it is okay? Can two things not be bad at once? Can extremists on either side advocating for the deaths of innocent people not both be condemned? What is your point in posting this? Bizarre

[dumbsparce]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

So you're abandoning the claim that Hamas is evil to Gazans and Gazans live under the terror of Hamas? And now the argument is that every Gazan is Hamas, even the toddlers?

 

You have to decide on one narrative. 

 

Either Hamas is singularly bad and oppress innocent Gazans (which would explain why random families agree to hold hostages when forced to by Hamas, which discredits the narrative of universal evil in Gazans spread by the woman) or you believe the family being willing to hold the hostage was of their complete free will and that all Gazans are terrorists. 

 

Which one do you think can save the failing PR campaign for Israel's ongoing genocide?

You're literally making **** up on the spot. How in the world did you come up with all that based on my posts on this thread and the close to zero on the megathread? 

 

I follow no narrative or agenda. There are no hidden meanings behind my posts and what you read is exactly what I mean.