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Former Israeli PM trying to manufacture consent for the US to engage in direct war with Iran, nbd

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This girl also spoke about the aggression that happened in 2021. Can you imagine keeping living in wars after wars?

 

 

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20 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:


Former Israeli PM trying to manufacture consent for the US to engage in direct war with Iran, nbd

Israel would never attack iran on their own, they would get destroyed

 

so they're trying to get the US to go to war on their behalf 

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The way I've been told that Biden's hands are tied in regards to making any meaningful change (especially when Roe was overturned) but the second there's a genocide to fund he has presidential authority. This is revolting.

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it mindboggles me when people deny this genocide going on. just shows you what kind of person they truly are

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5 hours ago, Aston Martin said:

 

The way I've been told that Biden's hands are tied in regards to making any meaningful change (especially when Roe was overturned) but the second there's a genocide to fund he has presidential authority. This is revolting.

i wouldn’t be surprised if part of the funds will end up back in congress. just another way to steal money from the american people

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I remember when the genocide started I was watching a political analysis video and the guy said something like if the world doesn't punish israel for attacking civilians then other countries will see it as a sign that they can do the same and won't be punished because it would show the world's hypocrisy for not punishing israel

 

 

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Reminder that Joe Biden enthusiastically and unequivocally supports this:

 

 

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Here's to Israel's downfall this year :heart:

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On 12/31/2023 at 11:37 AM, Jjang said:

 

 

Really interesting how a certain someone always reacts negatively whenever they're shown evidence of how genocidal Israeli society is as a whole :gaycat4: 

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20 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:

Really interesting how a certain someone always reacts negatively whenever they're shown evidence of how genocidal Israeli society is as a whole :gaycat4: 

I react negatively because it is framing used to justify dangerous rhetoric that strips people of their civillian status, as it is when Israelis attempt to villify Gazans. If you believe that regular Israelis are genocidal maniacs then it follows from that violence against them is not only necessary but is also justified.

 

I am - and have always been - coming from the position of immediately ending this violence at all costs. It is much easier for users to attempt to frame me as some hidden zionist, than to face the reality that their worldview is a violent one that is continuing to contribute to the suffering of Gazans through its propping up of Hamas. There in fact are alternative visions of free Palestine that do not involve hundreds of dead Israelis and tens of thousands of dead Palestinians. It is not Hamas or nothing, and it never should have become that for the left.

 

If any member is against Hamas' relinquishing of Gaza as in the rumoured Egyptian permanent ceasfire plan (which some members seem to be) they value Palestinian lives less than nationalistic goals. They would accept more dead Gazans in order to not give Israel a "win" - its pure tribalistic emotion. It is a rabidly violent worldview that makes martrys of children, and is morally indefensible.

 

My views on where this should go are largely aligned with Egypt and Jordan, who have been the most sane voices in this recent escalation and in general in recent decades. They have taken the path of peace by accepting Israel's existence; they lost the wars in the 20th century, and war over land cannot go on forever. And their people have been better for it. 

 

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For the record, I support this resolution in Ukraine as well. Ukrainian territorial integrity is simply not worth permanent war. At some point, Ukrainians must accept the loss of at least Crimea, if not more.

 

 

 

 

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