news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[Miss Show Business]

Just now, Both Sides Now said:

Blaming everything on Hamas just perpetuates this cycle of violence that harms Palestinians and Israelis (but mostly Palestinians). 

 

Reminder: the Troubles in Northern Ireland didn’t end by bombing Derry until the IRA just disappeared. They ended by acknowledging the situation which led to Irish Nationalists to take up arms.  The IRA were terrorists too. 

Who was it that ended the ceasefire on October 7th? Who was it that continuously uses civilian hospitals as bases and uses civilians as shields?

 

Hamas holds a lot of blame for everything going on. Let me be clear, too: Israel should be held accountable for any violations of international law. This does not mean I 100% agree with the scale of their response.

 

However, Hamas does nothing but endanger the very lives they'd tell you they're trying to protect. There's a myriad of reasons nobody should support Hamas, as I'm sure there are for the IDF too, yet here we are: discussing this issue with radicals who sympathise and downplay Hamas's crimes.

[Virgos Groove]

1 minute ago, Miss Show Business said:

Who was it that ended the ceasefire on October 7th?

You Zionists are NOT about to revise history and pretend that Palestine was some zen paradise before that date. Israeli settlers were invading Palestinian holy sites three DAYS before October 7th.

[Jjang]

Just now, Delirious said:

Do you condemn the terrorist organisation that is Hamas?

what happens after one condemns Hamas? does the illegal murderous military occupation of 4 million Palestinians in the West Bank where Hamas doesn’t govern suddenly end after 60 years? 

[Communion]

33 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

The way this site has people radicalized into sympathising with literal terrorists is scary.

 

Seek help.

I don't think posts like this that aim to heighten anti-Palestinian sentiment and frame someone like this murdered child as a terrorist are helpful to Jewish people:

 

[Jjang]

7 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said:

Who was it that ended the ceasefire on October 7th? Who was it that continuously uses civilian hospitals as bases and uses civilians as shields?

 

Hamas holds a lot of blame for everything going on. Let me be clear, too: Israel should be held accountable for any violations of international law. This does not mean I 100% agree with the scale of their response.

 

However, Hamas does nothing but endanger the very lives they'd tell you they're trying to protect. There's a myriad of reasons nobody should support Hamas, as I'm sure there are for the IDF too, yet here we are: discussing this issue with radicals who sympathise and downplay Hamas's crimes.

There was never a ceasefire. Israel never existed peacefully. Not for one day in its history. 

 

so today’s Jenin massacre (where Hamas doesn’t govern, 160 kms away from Gaza) was justified? just a casual day in a life of a Palestinian? 

 

what if Lebanese soldiers decided to raid a northern Israeli Kibbutz under the pretense that they want to avenge the three innocent girls Israel bombed in Lebanon last week. Would you be outraged or would you not even give it the slightest attention the way you do when Palestinians get slaughtered every day in broad daylight? 

[khalyan]

Lets move this conversation back to the main thread regarding the conflict. 

[DAP]

Pretends to be shocked X 1000

[Jjang]

daily reminder that in order for apartheid Israel to stop existing all it takes is for Palestinians to get their basic human rights because they’re already the majority on the land. 

 

That’s why they segregated Palestinians into 3 different societies (West Bank, 48 borders and Gaza) under three different sets of rights. 

 

no need for war. no need for “genocidal” demands. Just give them their basic rights and poof just like that Israel is over because Jews are no longer the majority. 

 

Palestinians deserve to live in Palestine. Not Egypt. Not Jordan. Palestine. 

 

Zionists will try to the best of their abilities to disguise the fact that they oppose Palestinian rights to be granted (they will tell taunt you with Israel’s imaginary “right to exist) 

 

humans have rights and those rights come before anything and everything including the right of a genocidal state to exist. 

 

good day <3 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Jjang

[Mr. Mendes]

12 hours ago, Miss Show Business said:

The way this site has people radicalized into sympathising with literal terrorists is scary.

 

Seek help.

You truly Isreal's little power bottom aren't you my lord, you and that Delerious clown are relentless in your refusal to break out of your little propaganda bubbles

[State of Grace.]

 

*Since we're not catching Hamas, we'll make it look like we are. Our gullible supporters will definitely believe it! 🤪*

Edited December 16, 2023 by State of Grace.

[Wolf Alice]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/dec/16/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-hamas-hostages-idf-protest-tel-aviv-news-palestine-us-biden-ceasefire-un

 

Information coming out about how IDF is indiscriminately killing people in Gaza including the Israeli hostages taken on October 7. 

[Virgos Groove]

So they're just straight up ADMITTING they kill civilians even after they surrendered (including their own), but some of you losers will still argue, under a false pretense of "neutrality", that a state like this deserves to exist. Crazy.

Edited December 16, 2023 by Virgos Groove

[State of Grace.]

Terrorists.

 

 

[Jjang]

21 hours ago, Jjang said:

There was never a ceasefire. Israel never existed peacefully. Not for one day in its history. 

 

so today’s Jenin massacre (where Hamas doesn’t govern, 160 kms away from Gaza) was justified? just a casual day in a life of a Palestinian? 

 

what if Lebanese soldiers decided to raid a northern Israeli Kibbutz under the pretense that they want to avenge the three innocent girls Israel bombed in Lebanon last week. Would you be outraged or would you not even give it the slightest attention the way you do when Palestinians get slaughtered every day in broad daylight? 

@Miss Show Business why aren't you answering this? I'll repeat: 

 

if Lebanese soldiers decided to raid a northern Israeli Kibbutz under the pretense that they wanted to avenge the three innocent girls Israel bombed in Lebanon last week. Would you be outraged or would you not even give it the slightest attention the way you do when Palestinians get slaughtered every day in broad daylight? Hamas is not part of the equation here so I'm curious about your attitude. 

[ZeroSuitBritney]

Apparently the three Israeli hostages that were killed were bare chested and waving a white flag, and they still got killed.

 

Honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they were deliberately killed because they might publicly talk about how they were actually treated.

[Communion]

1 hour ago, ZeroSuitBritney said:

Apparently the three Israeli hostages that were killed were bare chested and waving a white flag, and they still got killed.

 

Honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they were deliberately killed because they might publicly talk about how they were actually treated.

It's worse - the soldiers only noticed who they shot after noticing the 3rd person they shot "looked different", likely referencing the one who has red hair.

 

 

Meaning that the IDF is just openly indiscriminately firing - and have been this whole time - at anyone who can be perceived as "Palestinian", which includes countless Jewish Israelis. 

 

Edited December 16, 2023 by Communion

[A.R.L]

12 hours ago, Mr. Mendes said:

You truly Isreal's little power bottom aren't you my lord, you and that Delerious clown are relentless in your refusal to break out of your little propaganda bubbles

Being the small bottom of Israel still sounds better than the small power bottom of Hamas, imagine if you guys were caught by Hamas during October 7 in a locked room with your macho tops, your wide holes would be used as tunnels.

[ZeroSuitBritney]

14 minutes ago, Communion said:

It's worse - the soldiers only noticed who they shot after noticing the 3rd person they shot "looked different", likely referencing the one who has red hair.

 

 

Meaning that the IDF is just openly indiscriminately firing - and have been this whole time - at anyone who can be perceived as "Palestinian", which includes countless Jewish Israelis. 

 

Waiting for the Zionists here to blame Khamas!

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, A.R.L said:

Being the small bottom of Israel still sounds better than the small power bottom of Hamas, imagine if you guys were caught by Hamas during October 7 in a locked room with your macho tops, your wide holes would be used as tunnels.

Girl, you're in a thread about genocide and war, what the **** are you even talking about. 

[Aethereal]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67670679

Half of Gaza is starving. 

Edited December 16, 2023 by Aristotle

[A.R.L]

On 12/15/2023 at 6:55 PM, Virgos Groove said:

You Zionists are NOT about to revise history and pretend that Palestine was some zen paradise before that date. Israeli settlers were invading Palestinian holy sites three DAYS before October 7th.

We cannot deny the massacres of Israel for which they should be held accountable, but the other side should to deny the fact of Israel's right to exist?

 

Anti-Semitism and Islamic influence to control all that religion is what turns both sides into continuous destructive wars.
 

What happened to Palestine/Israel was exactly what happened to other neighboring countries or to India and Pakistan, but in this case, since they are Jews, Muslims refused to share the lands that the Jews had before the Arabs.

Edited December 16, 2023 by A.R.L

[State of Grace.]

18 minutes ago, A.R.L said:

Being the small bottom of Israel still sounds better than the small power bottom of Hamas, imagine if you guys were caught by Hamas during October 7 in a locked room with your macho tops, your wide holes would be used as tunnels.

I genuinely have no ******* words. You zionists are ******* insane

[Communion]

16 minutes ago, A.R.L said:

We cannot deny the massacres of Israel for which they should be held accountable, but the other side should to deny the fact of Israel's right to exist.

 

Anti-Semitism and Islamic influence to control all that religion is what turns both sidea into continuous destructive wars.
 

What happened to Palestine/Israel was exactly what happened to other neighboring countries or to India and Pakistan, but in this case, since they are Jews, Muslims refused to share the lands that the Jews had before the Arabs.

Projecting your own resentments over Islam won't turn what is a fundamentally geopolitical and nationalist conflict into a religious one. 

 

Surely you have to see the irony to posture that Western LGBT people are 'misreading' something and nonsensically supporting 'people who'd kill them' while yourself no differently are rewriting the realities of Palestine into your own vision of the world that makes sense with your own biases as someone invested in things like the mistreatment of non-Islamic populations in places like Morocco? How does the destruction of the Palestinian people make Berbers across North Africa safer?

 

This is ironically what many posters do, like that one user who somehow will dunk on Palestinians because "what about the Kurds???" despite that it was Israel giving the literal medical aid to ISIS fighters and then letting them go free, who were then killing Kurdish soldiers in Syria.  

 

Literally how do you reconcile your musings about "but what about the Islam!?" with images like these?

Does someone deserve to have their body crushed by a bulldozer for simply being the same religion as someone who has harmed you?

 

 

Edited December 16, 2023 by Communion

[Lil' Oz]

 

[Aethereal]

27 minutes ago, A.R.L said:

What happened to Palestine/Israel was exactly what happened to other neighboring countries or to India and Pakistan, but in this case, since they are Jews, Muslims refused to share the lands that the Jews had before the Arabs.

Most of Jews in Israel left the region before the spread of Islam. By the time Muslims came by, the region was predominantly Christian.