news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[GhostBox]

5 hours ago, nooniebao said:

 

I mean its not like it isnt happening all over the place 💀 so easy to believe these videos sometimes. 

 

[GhostBox]

2 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:

At least you’re finally going mask off and admitting that this is all about annihilating the Palestinians as a whole instead of some righteous crusade against solely “Khamas”! The genocide denial from you, GhostBox, and pretty much all of the Joe Biden supporters on the neolib subreddits has been mentally exhausting to put up with tbh!

 

I’ve literally stated many times I do not agree with what the government of Israel is doing. But at the same time I do not agree with what terrorist organization Hamas is doing and has done either which has and is only making the situation worse. 
 Let’s say Israel stops what they are doing tomorrow. A “ceasefire” as y’all want, You really think Hamas is going to stop and abide by it too? 💀 or vice versa. No. It’s not gonna happen. Both sides are guilty for the deaths of innocent civilians. Both sides are responsible for what is happening at this very moment. Bii oh th sides hate each other and have for decades and decades. 
it takes both sides doing what is right to stop the mess and as of now neither side wants to to do that. It’s not just Israel and it’s not just Hamas. 

 

Edited December 13, 2023 by GhostBox

[Headlock]

“But really guys, aren’t the victims of genocide also at fault here?”

 

It has to be trolling, how can someone write something that insane and think their logic holds true in the slightest?

[dussel_06]

The UN being useless as usual. The big 5 should  not have veto power. Voting is basically useless if one country can just deny the result of the votes.

[FOCK]

 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2023 by FOCK

[teresaguidice]

could the israel supporters in this thread clarify their stance? beyond "both sides bad" or "israel has the right to exist"? genuinely asking. 

 

one state solution
israel supporters: "a wild leftist fantasy that would mean the deaths of all israeli jews. impossible."

 

two state solution

israel: "no"

 

so either you believe the israeli government will change its absolutist stance on a two state solution eventually when a more liberal regime somehow gains popular support in israel (which, to me, is fantasy but if that's the belief, shouldn't you expect the US to demand this, weaken netanyahu's standing in israel by calling out his extremism, and condition aid on steps being made to a two state deal?) or that the only solution is the permanent removal of palestinians from gaza and the west bank (either slowly through settlements and land encroachment or quickly through continued bombardment and mass expulsion). is there an alternative path i'm not understanding? and if that's your viewpoint can you just say it? is it just contrarianism? 

Edited December 13, 2023 by teresaguidice

[State of Grace.]

2 hours ago, GhostBox said:

 Let’s say Israel stops what they are doing tomorrow. A “ceasefire” as y’all want, You really think Hamas is going to stop and abide by it too? 💀 

You're honestly so....despicable. I wish you would just drop your both sides b*llshit and say that you're okay with the thousands of Palestinians being murdered by Israel. Only a genocidal maniac wouldn't be calling for a ceasefire right now.

[ClashAndBurn]

2 hours ago, Headlock said:

“But really guys, aren’t the victims of genocide also at fault here?”

 

It has to be trolling, how can someone write something that insane and think their logic holds true in the slightest?

It really is hilarious how every both-sides'er in this thread ALWAYS comes around to showing their true preference for Israel's genocidal campaign in the end. Dunno why they can't just be honest.  

[DAP]

[Kassi]

On 10/11/2023 at 3:44 PM, Kassi said:

At this point it’s becoming clear that the only solution is an Israeli security state with fully integrated Palestinian administrative regions.
 

In order for it to even have a chance of working, Israel needs to be judicious in its operations against Hamas. Indiscriminate killing and mass casualty retaliations only prolongs the timeline to that solution.   

Like I said 3 days after Oct 7 

[DAP]

 

[FOCK]

 

[GhostBox]

6 hours ago, Headlock said:

“But really guys, aren’t the victims of genocide also at fault here?”

 

It has to be trolling, how can someone write something that insane and think their logic holds true in the slightest?

Yes terrorist organization Hamas is at fault too. To think otherwise you’re too blind by your Israel/jew hatred to see it 🤷

[GhostBox]

2 hours ago, DAP said:

He literally corrected himself after the first my and says “a father”. He doenst say “my father” twice. This ain’t the gotcha you think it is. 

Edited December 13, 2023 by GhostBox

[DAP]

Don’t care didn’t ask

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[teresaguidice]

40 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

Yes terrorist organization Hamas is at fault too. To think otherwise you’re too blind by your Israel/jew hatred to see it 🤷

non-jews weaponizing "jew hatred" accusations to try to stop people from proxy criticizing joe biden. truly maddening! 

[State of Grace.]

blind Biden cultists accusing anyone of being blind 

 

[Communion]

17 hours ago, Communion said:

Your post frames things as *getting better* for Palestinians. 2018 was the worst tally for injured Palestinians in over a decade. Unnecessary Israel aggression to what were literally peaceful protests led to the kind of radicalization that spurred and birthed the plans of 10/07. Gazans used to have a majority support for a 2 state solution! 

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Bottom line: Israel's war of mass destruction has not resulted in making Palestinians less likely to support Hamas or the use to arms, it has resulted in the exact opposite. Palestinians do not want to be led by the leadership Washington wants to engineer for them either.

They must not have gotten the apparent memo that wanting a life beyond border walls and degradation by settlers is neither realistic nor rationale.

 

Both significant populations of Palestinians now favor armed resistance. Whatever hopes of destroying Hamas in Gaza Israel had will just create a new, stronger Hamas in the West Bank. This is the cycle of violence Israel at its core both wants and actively causes.

 

This violence will continue for as long as Israel exists. Anyone who denies such is not a sane person. 

Edited December 14, 2023 by Communion

[teresaguidice]

2 hours ago, Kassi said:

Like I said 3 days after Oct 7 

what does an israeli security state with fully integrated palestinian administrative regions mean? gaza is handed over to the palestinian authority and becomes a militarized zone with israeli settlers similar to the west bank as it was pre 2005, correct?

[ClashAndBurn]

1 hour ago, GhostBox said:

Israel/jew hatred

You: "I deplore violence on both sides, I swear!"

 

Also you: -solely uses pro-Israel and pro-IDF epithets whenever condemning any side-

 

BEYOND PARODY  

[Communion]

 

[ClashAndBurn]

Wouldn’t be the first thing Zionists fabricated and spread lies about!

 

 

[Mean Trees]

3 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

Hmmm... Do you think it's starting? The Abu Ghraib photos were damning was the beginning of the unravelling of the Iraq War. Are Israeli elites going to have to confront the murder and the lies pushed?

[GhostBox]

2 hours ago, DAP said:

Don’t care didn’t ask

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Of course you don’t care about facts 💀

[ClashAndBurn]