Riot Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 People justifying the cut of water supply to Gaza with "they'll have to accept it if they don't want to be bombed"... 3
Eat The Acid Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, family.guy123 said: Were the reports of Palestinian supporters from other countries (I saw Sweden and Canada) celebrating debunked? If not, what exactly are those people celebrating since it’s become my understanding that Palestinians also suffer under the terrorism of Hamas (in addition to that of IDF). Does that make sense? Like I saw Palestine flags being waved, but aren’t Palestinians suffering even more now as a result of the past few days? Canada is an extremely mixed up country that’s forming an identity outside of normal cultural consistencies. I’ve lived in Canada and cultural communities are small but many. There’s many protests of the apartheid Israel regime and at same time many Jewish Israelis oppose those protests. I’ve seen police presence and violence incited in main city of Toronto regarding this - that hasn’t been reported by journalists. A hidden aspect of Canadian identity. Canada has too many first generation cultures living in the same proximity. Canada is several generations away from creating its own unique national identity due to its diverse and multi cultural population.
family.guy123 Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Eat The Acid said: Canada is an extremely mixed up country that’s forming an identity outside of normal cultural consistencies. I’ve lived in Canada and cultural communities are small but many. There’s many protests of the apartheid Israel regime and at same time many Jewish Israelis oppose those protests. I’ve seen police presence and violence incited in main city of Toronto regarding this - that hasn’t been reported by journalists. A hidden aspect of Canadian identity. Canada has too many first generation cultures living in the same proximity. Canada is several generations away from creating its own unique national identity due to its diverse and multi cultural population. Which one of my questions were you trying to answer?
Capris Groove Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, airplane said: Biden (a psychotic zionist) confirmed it so must be true I screamed. Edited October 11, 2023 by Capris Groove
Riverbank Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, airplane said: Biden (a psychotic zionist) confirmed it so must be true This person is literally grasping at straws to convince us that Hamas (yes the actual terrorist group) didn't kill any civilians. Quite interesting to see the kind of crowd y'all align yourselves with. 5 2
Eat The Acid Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: Which one of my questions were you trying to answer? I was explaining the complexities of the situation regarding your concern re: Canada. It’s normal that people will protest and also support their lived experiences. There are many Palestinians living in Canada that have fled the Israel terrorist attacks and apartheid regime. It’s understandable that may support Palestinian self determination and liberation. There’s also a Jewish community in Canada that may be pro Israel and oppose that. As I’ve stated before - this is a complex issue that only allows for innocent civilians to be victimised by two terrorist groups - the state of Israel and Hamas.
JustLikeHoney Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Hamas shooting a civilian cars driving to the music festival.
besaid Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: Were the reports of Palestinian supporters from other countries (I saw Sweden and Canada) celebrating debunked? If not, what exactly are those people celebrating since it’s become my understanding that Palestinians also suffer under the terrorism of Hamas (in addition to that of IDF). Does that make sense? Like I saw Palestine flags being waved, but aren’t Palestinians suffering even more now as a result of the past few days? Debunked? It's well documented and in public all over the world. Dearborn MI had a huge support rally after the attack. Big DSA/Palestine rally in NYC and DC which many congresspeople had to distance themselves from. Disgusting displays everywhere so its anything but "debunked". - Biden confirms what Hamas supporters have been denying online for days - they killed and beheaded children and toddlers: 1 4
Eat The Acid Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Riverbank said: This person is literally grasping at straws to convince us that Hamas (yes the actual terrorist group) didn't kill any civilians. Quite interesting to see the kind of crowd y'all align yourselves with. Feels similar to the denial that are pro terrorist group IDF over the last 7 decades of genocide. It’s interesting that pro Israeli agenda, terrorism, apartheid - suddenly have a conscious and empathy for innocent civilians being murdered. I wonder what it progresses or makes you feel to attempt to debunk Israel as a terrorist state by disingenuously attempting to align people with Hamas when they express opposition of Palestinian genocide and ethnic cleansing. Does it make you feel good? The only right opinion is that Israeli and Palestinian lives matter and both the IDF and Hamas need to be dismembered and a 2 state solution is engaged immediately. I think the issue is that nobody has cared as Israel carried out their terrorist regime for decades but now that Hamas (despite not being associated with Palestinian Ian civilians) has - it’s caused a justification and argument for the complete genocide and ethnic cleaning of a whole group of people. It’s disgusting. We need fair and unbiased intervention in this matter. It’s gone too far. Edited October 11, 2023 by Eat The Acid 3
family.guy123 Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eat The Acid said: I was explaining the complexities of the situation regarding your concern re: Canada. It’s normal that people will protest and also support their lived experiences. There are many Palestinians living in Canada that have fled the Israel terrorist attacks and apartheid regime. It’s understandable that may support Palestinian self determination and liberation. There’s also a Jewish community in Canada that may be pro Israel and oppose that. As I’ve stated before - this is a complex issue that only allows for innocent civilians to be victimised by two terrorist groups - the state of Israel and Hamas. So that’s my question. Why are supporters of innocent civilians celebrating those same people being further terrorized? Am I misunderstanding something or are the recent atrocities against Palestinians somehow a win for … Palestinians?
Riverbank Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eat The Acid said: The only right opinion is that Israeli and Palestinian lives matter And I've never said otherwise.
Dan81 Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, NausAllien said: While chronically online ATRLs side with Hamas, everybody else in the real world: Nobody care about these ugly bitśhes they are Jewish of course they’re going to support Israel Edited October 11, 2023 by Dan81 1 1 1 1 4
Aethereal Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Quote In the Gaza Strip, 97 percent of freshwater is unsuitable for human consumption, and raw sewage pours into the Mediterranean Sea. Facilities for desalinating and treating water function on only a limited basis, as Israel controls the flow of fuel and supplies into the region. But Israelis, too, could face consequences from contaminated water. Special correspondent Fred de Sam Lazaro reports. https://www.unicef.org/sop/what-we-do/wash-water-sanitation-and-hygiene#:~:text=As 96 per cent of,is the desalination of seawater.
ClashAndBurn Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BlueTimberwolf said: The Biden Admin better be careful. So many of the people claiming to "Stand With Israel" during this rampage will be singing a different tune if Iran and the other Arab nations get involved. Let's see how many of them actually support boots on the ground. Americans would be much more likely to support an American invasion of Gaza than in Ukraine. Done under the guise of liberating American hostages, it would actually be America’s most popular intervention effort. Palestinians are also just not even regarded as human, so their suffering and death wouldn’t even be considered by much of this country.
besaid Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Americans would be much more likely to support an American invasion of Gaza than in Ukraine. Done under the guise of liberating American hostages, it would actually be America’s most popular intervention effort. Palestinians are also just not even regarded as human, so their suffering and death wouldn’t even be considered by much of this country. So then the Pro-palestine side should be the most angry with Hamas yet that's not what I've seen anywhere. The kneejerk reaction was to attack Israel instead. Edited October 12, 2023 by besaid
BlueTimberwolf Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 3 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: Americans would be much more likely to support an American invasion of Gaza than in Ukraine. Done under the guise of liberating American hostages, it would actually be America’s most popular intervention effort. Palestinians are also just not even regarded as human, so their suffering and death wouldn’t even be considered by much of this country. I wouldn't be so sure of that. A lot of people support Israel in theory, but it's never really campaign issue outside of certain Jewish communities. There's a lot of anti-war fatigue for various reasons, and Americans have a habit of turning on war efforts if it's not "Mission Accomplished" in two weeks. Many would call for a diplomatic solution before fighting another Arab country.
State of Grace. Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 Another tough night in Gaza. No water, no food, no electricity, no fuel. Ministry of Health reported that hospitals have reached full capacity and people are sleeping on the floor, they're running out of medical equipments and they're set to run out of fuel by tomorrow.
KUNTPERFECTA Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 For anyone who really wants to learn https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyNqI0OtTNm/ 1
Harrier Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 We don't have evidence for the beheading of children as of this moment, but y'all need to ******* get your **** together. You really think it is far from the realm of possibility? We know that many children were killed and I have personally seen the video of Spoiler a child having his throat slit in the streets by Hamas terrorists. We know that beheading is a common part of Islamic terrorism because of its historical Islamic law basis. So it is not hard to imagine. Jumping to apologia for terrorists being your first instinct, before we have evidence, is frankly pretty deranged behaviour, but we have seen it repeatedly on this website since Saturday. I am happy that many users walked back their initial reactions and condemned Hamas, but you can't then complain about people asking for Hamas condemnations when half of twitter and many people on this website continue to jusfify and celebrate their actions, or engage in genocidal rhetoric such as the "from the river to the sea" statement. Word of advice to everyone: stop twisting yourselves into knots to try and defend your "side". It is much easier to just condemn violence and war crimes regardless of their origin. 7 2
Domination Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Harrier said: or engage in genocidal rhetoric such as the "from the river to the sea" statement. Yeah, this the part where **** gets really weird. I’ve had friends on social media use it (obvious parroting someone they hold in highest moral regard) and like what do you think that means in 2023
Aethereal Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 Quote At its core, Hamas wants an independent Palestinian state, one that, according to its 2017 manifesto, would at the very least include the land Palestinians held in 1967, a position Israeli governments have long said is out of the question. It also wants greater political power, both in Palestine and internationally. https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/10/10/23911661/hamas-israel-war-gaza-palestine-explainer#:~:text=At its core%2C Hamas wants,both in Palestine and internationally. Israel can end this conflict by giving Palestinians the 67 borders, which is not a big price, considering not many Israelis live in West Bank. There are only 700K Israelis living in this territory. Maybe they can exclude Jerusalem (since it's their holy city) from the demands by giving Palestinians reparations.
airplane Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Another tough night in Gaza. No water, no food, no electricity, no fuel. Ministry of Health reported that hospitals have reached full capacity and people are sleeping on the floor, they're running out of medical equipments and they're set to run out of fuel by tomorrow. The death toll is probably in tens of thousands. I hope there’s a ceasefire immediately because it’s not looking good for the innocent families in Gaza. What a tragedy
Dan81 Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) As Egyptian Jewish guy I would like to say that Zionist’s are not welcome in our Arab countries and Middle East. They are the reason of most wars throughout history and they are evil, cruel , cold-hearted and ugly inside out fuçk them all and free Palestine 🇵🇸 Edited October 12, 2023 by Dan81 7 3 1 2
KUNTPERFECTA Posted October 12, 2023 Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Another important video to watch and learn about the enemy of the world https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyQXT4tNI2s/ Edited October 12, 2023 by KUNTPERFECTA 6
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