Kassi Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 At this point it’s becoming clear that the only solution is an Israeli security state with fully integrated Palestinian administrative regions. In order for it to even have a chance of working, Israel needs to be judicious in its operations against Hamas. Indiscriminate killing and mass casualty retaliations only prolongs the timeline to that solution. 6
State of Grace. Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gui Blackout said: Again, I'm done with this back and forth because no source or news will be good enough. Debunking this particular story seems to be the hill you and others want to die on, so by all means have at it. If claims from Fox News propagandist Trey Yingst is the hill you wanna die on... 1 1
mystery Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Communion said: Sis... Asking for a head count of who has whose support isnt exactly within Israel's favor. I don't think this map is the way to go with showing who supports who, considering countries like Ireland which have shown immense support for Palestine but don't recognize it. Denmark, Spain and Luxembourg as well. You could do the same with a map of Israel recognition and spin the same story but it won't be necessarily true as to what their stance is right now. Countries that recognize Palestine: Countries that recognize Israel: Edited October 11, 2023 by mystery 3 1 1
LookinAssHittas Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 The last sentence of this tweet I’m crying. You really can’t make this **** up. There’s simply way too much pro-Zionist presence in Western media & politics. I’m so happy to see many Millennials & Generation Z people online not take the bait. It gives me hope that future generations will have more respect/sympathy for the Palestinian people and their plight in comparison to previous generations. 1
LookinAssHittas Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kassi said: At this point it’s becoming clear that the only solution is an Israeli security state with fully integrated Palestinian administrative regions. No. The only solution would be to end the illegal occupation of Palestine and create a one-state where both Israelis & Palestinians have equal rights. 2 1
Domination Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Sorry, haven’t kept up but are the baby beheadings actually confirmed to be false or is there just no source beyond Israeli officials?
airplane Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) If the IDF claims they have intel on the hostages, then why do they not have intel on Hamas hiding places to target them specifically? I think it’s pretty self-explanatory. They wanted an excuse to massacre everyone in the Gaza Strip. Mess at fox shamelessly asking to use fake media without factchecking. The agenda is strong. Edited October 11, 2023 by airplane
Tropez Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Nicholai said: Gaza is their home. They want and deserve to live there in peace, not in Egypt. Is their right. Fleeing is not a solution. What must happen is for Israel to stop indiscriminately bombing the strip and allow humanitarian assistance and restore services. I get that. But that was in a response to this: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-says-it-is-talking-israel-about-safe-passage-gaza-civilians-2023-10-10/ Almost 200k Palestinians are homeless. And there will be more. The US is requesting Israel give fleeing Palestinians free passage and not massacre them. Countries close by should at least take them in for the time being. So you seriously think 2 million Palestinians are going to stay? That number includes women and children. What is a fleeing child supposed to do? Remain in Gaza or if given the chance flee for safety.
Vermillion Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Domination said: Sorry, haven’t kept up but are the baby beheadings actually confirmed to be false or is there just no source beyond Israeli officials? The original article from Zedek never said 40 baby beheadings. Israeli soldiers, including on social media, took the original quote and twisted it. 1 1
i spit on haters Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, airplane said: If the IDF claims they have intel on the hostages, then why do they not have intel on Hamas hiding places to target them specifically? I think it’s pretty self-explanatory. They wanted an excuse to massacre everyone in the Gaza Strip. Doesn't the IDF typically also release Palestinian hostages in exchange of IDF soldiers ? Even if it's only a small handful of IDF soldiers. 1
Shelter Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Quote Tánaiste confirms 22-year-old Irish-Israeli woman Kim Damti has died after Hamas attack https://www.thejournal.ie/kim-damti-death-6194077-Oct2023/
Brunette Ambition Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 “No the babies were not beheaded, they were just killed ;)” ”The unconscious woman with her limbs twisted in opposite directions, paraded around on a truck while men cheered, did not die. She’s in hospital in critical condition ;)” This is what y’all sound like, it’s actually sickening 4 7
Peroxide Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Watching mainstream British media cover this has made me… so… so angry. 2
LookinAssHittas Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Brunette Ambition said: “No the babies were not beheaded, they were just killed ;)” ”The unconscious woman with her limbs twisted in opposite directions, paraded around on a truck while men cheered, did not die. She’s in hospital in critical condition ;)” This is what y’all sound like, it’s actually sickening What are your thoughts on the 260 children who have been slaughtered in Gaza by Israeli forces within the past 4 days? 2 1
Archetype Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Communion said: Sis... Asking for a head count of who has whose support isnt exactly within Israel's favor. Not you citing a graphic which alludes to China, Japan, Russia, and others as not being settler colonial regimes. Edited October 11, 2023 by Archetype 2
besaid Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, mystery said: I don't think this map is the way to go with showing who supports who, considering countries like Ireland which have shown immense support for Palestine but don't recognize it. Denmark, Spain and Luxembourg as well. You could do the same with a map of Israel recognition and spin the same story but it won't be necessarily true as to what their stance is right now. Countries that recognize Palestine: Countries that recognize Israel: Ddddd - The massacred babies and toddlers story has been confirmed in the past few hours. CNN confirmed reports: 5
Komet Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 📰 Top US lawmaker affirms Cairo warned Israel days before onslaught A top US legislator gave further credence Wednesday to assertions that Cairo had warned Israel of looming major violence by Hamas, three days before Gaza’s ruling terror group caught Israeli forces off-guard and massacred over 1,200 Israelis. Republican Michael McCaul, chairman of the powerful US House Foreign Affairs Committee, said: “We know that Egypt… warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen.” Speaking to reporters following a closed-door intelligence briefing for lawmakers on the crisis, he added: “I don’t want to get too much into classified [details], but a warning was given. “I think the question was at what level.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-us-lawmaker-affirms-cairo-warned-israel-days-before-onslaught/ Netanyahu OUT
Vermillion Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Brunette Ambition said: “No the babies were not beheaded, they were just killed ;)” ”The unconscious woman with her limbs twisted in opposite directions, paraded around on a truck while men cheered, did not die. She’s in hospital in critical condition ;)” This is what y’all sound like, it’s actually sickening If you’re going to make sweeping accusations instead of accurately addressing the arguments on literal specifics needed for war crime designations, @ people directly. Your fly-by generalizations on folks lessening the crimes are part of the problem. I don’t have a motive here - there’s literal procedures in place on one form of death vs. the other. Stop being flippant about it. 1
Communion Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, mystery said: I don't think this map is the way to go with showing who supports who, considering countries like Ireland which have shown immense support for Palestine but don't recognize it. Denmark, Spain and Luxembourg as well. You could do the same with a map of Israel recognition and spin the same story but it won't be necessarily true as to what their stance is right now. Countries that recognize Palestine: Countries that recognize Israel: You're proving the point that the vast majority of the world thinks a two state solution and creation of a sovereign Palestinian state is the minimum place negotiations need to get to to solve this, besides *spins wheel* the US and Israel itself, who demand the eradication of Palestine. And the difference in what drives both sides when faced with the reality that, to Israel, support can only be quantified as those who agree in not wanting Palestine to exist versus, to Palestine, support being who recognizes that Palestine also has a right to exist Edited October 11, 2023 by Communion 1
airplane Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Brunette Ambition said: “No the babies were not beheaded, they were just killed ;)” ”The unconscious woman with her limbs twisted in opposite directions, paraded around on a truck while men cheered, did not die. She’s in hospital in critical condition ;)” This is what y’all sound like, it’s actually sickening Why are yall so adamant on pushing false narratives? What happened to arguing with facts and facts only? But i can understand… none of the claims made by the IDF so far have been proven but been getting debunked back to back.
FOCK Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Komet blu said: 📰 Top US lawmaker affirms Cairo warned Israel days before onslaught A top US legislator gave further credence Wednesday to assertions that Cairo had warned Israel of looming major violence by Hamas, three days before Gaza’s ruling terror group caught Israeli forces off-guard and massacred over 1,200 Israelis. Republican Michael McCaul, chairman of the powerful US House Foreign Affairs Committee, said: “We know that Egypt… warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen.” Speaking to reporters following a closed-door intelligence briefing for lawmakers on the crisis, he added: “I don’t want to get too much into classified [details], but a warning was given. “I think the question was at what level.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-us-lawmaker-affirms-cairo-warned-israel-days-before-onslaught/ Netanyahu OUT There is just way too much oversight on behalf of the Israeli intelligence coming out with these reports. It’s much too soon to dabble in, but some are beginning to theorise that this was purposely overlooked as Bibi is in a tight spot of having to appease his far right wing cabinet by wiping out more of Gaza, in order to remain in power and avoid his looming imprisonment. If that is the case, the entire thing is even more horrific & shows disregard to even his own citizens lives, in favour of goals of expansion. Israel is not safe under Bibi - and ironically, Jewish outlets don’t shy away from reporting as such, as opposed to western media. 1
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