news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[anti-bitch]

2 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

So many people when they say "west" mean "white." The colonies are considered Western Countries because they... were colonized... so most of the colonies are Christian and have similar traditions as those of "white" nations.

 

And Brazil is mostly white anyway.

No, you take the word "west" too literally. It's not about geography. Australia is considered a western nation because it aligns with our values. And most people there are of European descent.

 

And I don't think Brazil is mostly white. There's a lot of mixed race people, maybe more than anywhere else in the world. And I think their politics is kinda mixed too, in that some people prefer the west and others the east. Argentina is more white/European, but even they don't always follow western politics, and not necessarily eastern either. It's like South America is trying to find the third option, something outside of the bipolar world order.

 

Edited November 12, 2023 by anti-bitch

[réveuse]

 

I don't know if this has already been posted but this is just an example of blatant Islamophobia and disrespect. I'm not even Muslim but I hope Allah brings karma to those disrespectful ghouls.

 

Edited November 12, 2023 by réveuse

[Communion]

44 minutes ago, anti-***** said:

No, you take the word "west" too literally. It's not about geography. Australia is considered a western nation because it aligns with our values. And most people there are of European descent.

 

And I don't think Brazil is mostly white. There's a lot of mixed race people, maybe more than anywhere else in the world. And I think their politics is kinda mixed too, in that some people prefer the west and others the east. Argentina is more white/European, but even they don't always follow western politics, and not necessarily eastern either. It's like South America is trying to find the third option, something outside of the bipolar world order.

 

What values does Brazil lack that the West has?

 

I think their entire point is that Western is meant to be some claim of values or world orientation yet many clearly find resolve in it just being the capitalist imperial core of the world, built upon concepts like whiteness, nation states, etc. to further the goals of mass extraction and harvesting of wealth from the Global South to the West.

 

See: European troglodytes only coming in here to say something like "US EUROPEAN NATIONS DON'T NEED TO HELP OUT ANYMORE! WE GOT ENOUGH OF THESE MONGR- ERM I MEAN IMMIGRANTS IN OUR NATIONS!! WHEN WILL THOSE ARAB NATIONS DO THEIR PART??" despite that Poland has like.. 0 non-white refugees and the vast majority of Syrian refugees - often the refugee crisis Europeans usually whine about - being in neighboring countries of Syria, thousands of miles away from the Eurozone.

 

Wonder how quickly support for Israeli apartheid would fall if every Western nation who funds and does trade with Israel would have to take in a percentage of Palestinians equivalent to the arms and goods that they supply the Israeli occupation with.

[FOCK]

Barbarism. There’s no other word. Every accusation is truly a confession.

 

Spoiler

 

Not much else that can be said. 
One can’t even begin to reflect on how damaging to our collective psyches all this inhumanity has been, because the guilt eats at you, you’re reminded you can shut this off, but the ones witnessing & living it will never be able to, for the rest of their lives. Haunting. 

 

[Aethereal]

Are there any estimates when will the war hypothetically end? We had some assumptions with the Ukraine crises. I wonder why nobody has not spoken anything?

Maybe because the time that the war is expected to last is so big that it will trigger the public even more?

Edited November 12, 2023 by Aristotle

[nooniebao]

 

[Aethereal]

He is soooo cute. I hate how much suffering there is in the world.

[Cloröx]

 

 

[DAP]

 

[DAP]

4 hours ago, nooniebao said:

 

“Settler and activist” whatever that means 

[Cloröx]

 

 

[RihRihGirrrl]

4 hours ago, FOCK said:

Bro…

 

 

 

These people are psychopaths!

[KUNTPERFECTA]

Condemn HamasISIS 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czd72hzKuog/?

[KUNTPERFECTA]

2 hours ago, Aristotle said:

He is soooo cute. I hate how much suffering there is in the world.

BRING HIM BACK. 
I can’t wait for that moment 

[rihannafan]

9 minutes ago, KUNTPERFECTA said:

Condemn HamasISIS 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czd72hzKuog/?

That's literally a fake translation 

[wastedpotential]

6 hours ago, Beyonnaise said:

This is what I can’t get my head around from a tactical standpoint. Even if I were to look at this as an emotionless robot who doesn’t flinch at children being blown up, it’s just ridiculously stupid for the U.S. strategically to continue spending billions bankrolling this war because it’s only going to radicalize the young Gazans who end up surviving and lead to more destabilization, mass displacement and formation of terrorist groups. It really feels like nobody in power learned a thing from the failures of Iraq and the creation of ISIS.

The thing is, I don't think the people in power in Israel are ignorant to the lessons of Iraq, I think they've deemed them irrelevant. It really does seem as if their goal is to kill as many as Palestinians as they can get away with in this initial strike, and then push the rest from Gaza into Egypt (and probably from the West Bank into Jordan), kill any who remain behind (as "obvious Hamas operatives who stayed behind to fight"), and to then continue to purge their numbers there through induced famines and airstrikes as they've been doing in Gaza for decades. There's no need to worry about radicalization amongst people you've killed or shoved behind an even more fortified and weaponized border than previously existed. That strategy won't work forever, but it worked for Israel in Gaza for almost 55 years, so my guess is that the Israeli leadership sees this as a problem to be re-addressed in 2075. 

[State of Grace.]

2 hours ago, KUNTPERFECTA said:

Condemn HamasISIS 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czd72hzKuog/?

You do realize that some of us here understand what she's saying and the translation is completely false? The desperation to paint these people as victims of Hamas who prefer Israel

[Embustera]

2 hours ago, KUNTPERFECTA said:

Condemn HamasISIS 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czd72hzKuog/?

Maybe you should check the translation before you post dumb ****.

[Cloröx]

3 hours ago, KUNTPERFECTA said:

Condemn HamasISIS 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czd72hzKuog/?

Zionist really that dumb huh? You guys can't even double check for confirmation, no wonder all ISISrael propaganda doesn't work anymore. This is getting more and more embarrassing

 

[Cleanromantic]

11 hours ago, FOCK said:

 

Absolutely deranged . This is what happens when they're allowed to say and do whatever they want without ever facing consequences because the US and Europe refuse to call them out and are funding the genocide .

[More Than A Melody]

7 hours ago, anti-***** said:

No, you take the word "west" too literally. It's not about geography. Australia is considered a western nation because it aligns with our values. And most people there are of European descent.

 

And I don't think Brazil is mostly white. There's a lot of mixed race people, maybe more than anywhere else in the world. And I think their politics is kinda mixed too, in that some people prefer the west and others the east. Argentina is more white/European, but even they don't always follow western politics, and not necessarily eastern either. It's like South America is trying to find the third option, something outside of the bipolar world order.

 

Girl I am LATINA BORN AND BRED. I was born in Chile. Everyone here considers themselves "a western country." I literally said the colonies are considered western countries because they were colonized. What part of that did you not understand? The gag about Brazil being literally in the west was that, a gag. Though I would say that there is a clear cultural division between most countries in the West and most countries in the East, while the Global South definitely has some cultural differences to the rest of western countries, it has a lot more in common with them than with Asian countries, or African, or countries from the Middle East.

 

Most of Brazil is of European descent. And what you think about Brazil's demographics doesn't really matter, because there's figures for what I said. 48% of the population of Brazil is white, 43% is mixed, 7.6% is black, 1% is Asian, 0.4% is Indigenous. The biggest demographic in Brazil is white.

 

 

[Kitty Kat]

2 hours ago, State of Grace. said:

You do realize that some of us here understand what she's saying and the translation is completely false? The desperation to paint these people as victims of Hamas who prefer Israel

What's the actual translation?

[Harrier]

Signs that Australia may also officially call for a ceasefire very soon coming from our foreign minister today. With the Macron statement from yesterday I think we may see a lot of Western countries falling like dominos and taking the right step here. Israel has no goodwill left, and that's a good thing.

 

But it's up to the Biden administration, the only country with any actual power over Israel, to do something meaningful. In the end I don't think ceasefire calls from Europe or Australia or Japan or whatever will have any actual impact  

[Cloröx]

We've been told by Kuntperfecta that IDF won't harm civilians, UN staff etc. What's happening? 

 

 

[Cloröx]