news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[Communion]

7 minutes ago, VOSS said:

Oh don't you worry I'm strongly opposed to the Israeli government and their actions. But some people in here need to be reminded that Hamas are not the good guys and they don't care about the Palestinian people.

Hamas are literally also individual Palestinian people. How do you think Israel or anyone would "free Palestine from Hamas"? 

Who are bombs being dropped on - a set of rich leaders in Qatar or the tens of thousands of men who are members of Hamas, upwards of 80% being orphans?

How do you stop two more orphans joining Hamas or what comes after Hamas when you're leveling Gaza to the ground to "end Hamas"?

 

You can't free Palestinians from feeling violence is the only solution until you've freed them from the oppressive existence of Israel as a state.

[More Than A Melody]

19 minutes ago, VOSS said:

Oh don't you worry I'm strongly opposed to the Israeli government and their actions. But some people in here need to be reminded that Hamas are not the good guys and they don't care about the Palestinian people.

1. There are no valid sources in that article

2. Even if a few of the top Hamas bosses are enriching themselves, that does not change the fact that 99% of its members are simply children who grew up being imprisoned, bombarded, and otherwise victimized.

3. I don't think ANYONE here is calling them "the good guys." You can be against their methods and radical ideology and UNDERSTAND how a human being arrives to that given their circumstances.

4. Focusing on that when 2 million people are being displaced, starved, and carpet bombed is... let's call it a choice.

[ClashAndBurn]

  

[family.guy123]

Do non-actively military serving Israeli citizens honorifically maintain their military rank after death?  

[ZeroSuitBritney]

This thread is from 2021 but wow, he nailed it 100% so grateful for Jewish folks like him to be fighting the good fight

 

 

 

[More Than A Melody]

25 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

  

The question is what are they rallying for? Like, aside from officially adopting Israel as the 51st state what MORE can the US do that they need to rally?

[Cloröx]

Changing my sign to support Palestine 

[Cloröx]

I don't buy it anymore when ATRLers come here criticizing Hamas (ignoring the fact that West Bank is not under even Hamas) for what happens in Palestine then ending their post with "I strongly oppose IDF their action bla bla bla......." because it's obvious they are sugarcoating their Zionism but too afraid to face the backlash because what Israel is doing right now is beyond justification. It's not like this is my first time encounter ATRL zionists in fact certain faces are familiar, and I remember damn well those who keeps supporting Israel even before Oct 7. 

[welham]

3 hours ago, Communion said:

Literal imprisonment and re-education camps for Israeli Arabs in Israel for simply existing.

The irony would be funny if not for the fact that the West still thinks it has credibility on human rights despite the Israel-Palestine contradiction erasing any they had

 

 

An additional angle to look at this law with:

 

While there is no way in HELL that the law would be equally applied to both Jews and Arabs, this law also aims to curb the Jewish population's knowledge of what might actually be happening on the ground in Gaza. In almost every conflict, Israel holds local media outlets by their necks and constructs a careful curated narrative of what's happening on the ground (military advancements, losses, etc.). Many Jews obviously aren't completely or at all convinced of course, thanks to social media showing many different stories of what's happening.

 

An example: Hamas has been releasing an unprecedented number of videos of their fighters supposedly destroying tanks/military vehicles and engaging with enemy troops almost every day now. The official position of the military is that few, sometimes just one every other day, soldiers have died or were injured. Jewish parents (naturally) panic easily at the idea of their kids possibly being sent to a death trap, and seeing Hamas propaganda (whether true or not) would only ever increase public pressure to end the war -or at least pull-out. Israeli government and military officials have been steadfast in their commitment to the ground invasion, so a disillusioned population would undermine their support.

 

Again, no way in hell the law would be applied equally, but this is angle to consider. It is the fear element: "only watch what we approve, listen and trust only us. The truth is us. If you don't, the state might come after you and even throw you in prison." It's pretty draconian for everyone living here really, not just the obvious main target that is Palestinian residents. 

[Cloröx]

 

 

[Maddox]

8 hours ago, Communion said:

Literal imprisonment and re-education camps for Israeli Arabs in Israel for simply existing.

The irony would be funny if not for the fact that the West still thinks it has credibility on human rights despite the Israel-Palestine contradiction erasing any they had

 

 

It's interesting how the west act like hysterical banshees abt China but consider this as total normal behavior hmm....

 

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Spoiler

 

 

 

Imagine siding with pedophiles 

Edited November 9, 2023 by Maddox

[Cloröx]

Time the ultimate truth teller 

 

[Cloröx]

Good riddance 

 

 

[KUNTPERFECTA]

HamasISIS leaders say they don’t want this war to end (yet asking for a cease fire?) and do not wish to govern the Palestinian. As we saw them killing their own civilians that tries to escape the war zone to the south. Luckily Israel and the IDF managed to keep civilians safe while moving to the south over the last few days.

 

And that’s why Israel should end HamasISIS once and for all. This is what this war is all about. 
if you don’t agree with ending HamasISIS - you’re simply against peace in the Middle East. 
The plan is to find a government that will rule Gaza with peace. 
 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CzZIXVDuPot/

 

 

[KUNTPERFECTA]

Here’s a video of the IDF aiding Palestinian people move south where it’s safer and were they can get the humanitarian aid. 
 

 

[KUNTPERFECTA]

2 hours ago, Cloröx said:

Time the ultimate truth teller 

 

Not you putting a happy and cynical emoji over the death of innocent people. I’m disgusted. You should be ashamed. 
The tweet is false also so… 

 

edit: @Both Sides Nowthe downvotes mean what exactly? are you happy about it too? 
be ashamed of yourself as well. 
 

Edited November 9, 2023 by KUNTPERFECTA

[KUNTPERFECTA]

19 hours ago, Space Cowboy said:

I hope Israel can save all the hostages 

I hope so too 🙏🏼

let’s spread some light in this hateful thread that’s full of downvotes on posts about the death of the innocent and the returning of kidnapped babies safely ☀️

[Both Sides Now]

Everyone knows the best way to save hostage is to reduce the region they are held in to rubble! - common Genocidal logic

 

…Anyways 

 

Macron has pressed for a ceasefire (although this nonsensical “humanitarian pause” line is still being pushed). France is also increasing aid to Gaza to 100m. Seems like Europe is slowly accepting the reality of this massacre. I know the ethnic cleansers in this thread will be furious. 
 

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231109-macron-calls-for-ceasefire-at-gaza-aid-conference

 

[Cloröx]

17 minutes ago, KUNTPERFECTA said:

Not you putting a happy and cynical emoji over the death of innocent people. I’m disgusted. You should be ashamed. 
The tweet is false also so… 

 

edit: @Both Sides Nowthe downvotes mean what exactly? are you happy about it too? 
be ashamed of yourself as well. 
 

 

[Cloröx]

ISISrael just won't stop 

 

[KUNTPERFECTA]

I hope the world will be soon in a better state than what is shown here 

a call for violence should be condemned everywhere. This is scary. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cza6NwtI4EQ/

[Nova_23]

They won’t stop killing innocent people 

 

Israel is as evil as it gets. After all of this, where everyone has seen it’s true colors, it never ever recovers. 

 

Palestine is for the people and will return. 

[KUNTPERFECTA]

This is insane. Even the dogs… they did nothing wrong. They didn’t deserve this and nobody does. 

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzWDbjDLh4O/

 

edit: the downvotes simply mean you are supporting the massacre of Oct. 7 against innocent israelies. That says a lot about whoever disliked this. Shameful. 

Edited November 9, 2023 by KUNTPERFECTA

[Cloröx]

Meanwhile all eyes on Gaza, ISISrael is getting more and more aggressive attacking West Bank 

 

 

[Cloröx]