Communion Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ZIVERT said: Why didn’t Egypt end their blockade and open their borders as soon as the violence started? You're genuinely such a hateful propagandist. EGYPT AND PALESTINIANS BOTH DONT WANT GAZANS TO FLEE TO EGYPT BECAUSE ISRAEL WILL NOT LET THEM COME BACK ONCE THE BOMBING IS OVER. YOU HAVE BEEN REPLIED TO BY MULTIPLE MEMBERS WITH THIS INFO EVERY TIME YOU SUGGEST EGYPT OFFER REFUGE WILL SOLVE THIS. A PALESTINIAN WHO TAKES REFUGE OUTSIDE OF PALESTINE IS THEN BARRED BY ISRAEL FROM COMING BACK. THAT HAS LITERALLY BEEN THE ROOT OF THIS CONFLICT FOR DECADES. WHY ARE YOU CONTINUALLY CALLING FOR GAZA TO BE ETHNICALLY CLEANSED? It's genuinely upsetting to see someone push what is objectively pro-ethnic cleansing propaganda. There is no need for Gazans to leave their homes to flee a mass bombing campaign that Europe and North America should be able to force Israel to not do. Demand Israel not indiscriminately bomb. Give Egypt entry into Gaza like they have been asking to do if Israel can't be stopped from bombing. Even when confronted with Israeli leaders calling for the extermination of the Palestinian people, you and others still gleefully offer only one solution: a Palestine without anymore Palestinians. Why should people run from a bombing campaign the US has the absolute power to stop? Edited October 11, 2023 by Communion 1 9 1
NausAllien Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fav said: Interesting you're saying that. The Israel’s Defense Minister literally views Gaza as "human animals". So are you disagreeing with him? Btw, the jihad is the act of faith to reclaim lands, so kinda what Israel has been doing for decades against Palestinian lands. You don't even know what "jihad" means Maybe YOU should go back to school...
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted October 11, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Baby Judas said: I just don't get it why people are so outraged when they see celebrities voicing their support for Israel.. But I don't see the same outrage when Biden and the entire US government did the same. What the **** am I missing? This whole social media outrage just shows that everything is for clout only. The opinions of celebrities on political matters is weird. No one should really care what Noah Schnapp has to say about politics, if we're being honest. But, Biden being pro-Israel and indifferent to Palestinians isn't surprising. We been knew this. It's the standard, status quo position of the American political system. I guess people just get more whiplash when an innocuous, generally pleasant celebrity jumps into the fray of a heated topic. 2
Fav Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, NausAllien said: LMAO! You think a terrorist organization like Hamas, which is as brutal as Isis, wants to negotiate with Israel? They just want to destroy everything and kill as many as possible. You're being either waaaay too naive, or disingenuous by presenting this conflict as someone that can be solved through diplomacy and negotiation. Never said Hamas wants to negociate. I'm just saying Israel doesn't want to negociate either. They're the ones who didn't respect the line defined by the UN, the same line who was indeed asked by their precious ally the US. You know it's not a football game? You know you don't have to blindly pick a side? 2
Shelter Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, NausAllien said: LMAO! You think a terrorist organization like Hamas, which is as brutal as Isis, wants to negotiate with Israel? They just want to destroy everything and kill as many as possible. You're being either waaaay too naive, or disingenuous by presenting this conflict as someone that can be solved through diplomacy and negotiation. So you agree with destroying Gaza? A population that is nearly half children? That must be ok, right? . Let them have no food and water. Some of you are sick! 2 1
Axelios Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, NausAllien said: LMAO! You think a terrorist organization like Hamas, which is as brutal as Isis, wants to negotiate with Israel? They just want to destroy everything and kill as many as possible. You're being either waaaay too naive, or disingenuous by presenting this conflict as someone that can be solved through diplomacy and negotiation. The existence of Hamas is the result of Israel actions and policies whose goal was to divide the Palestinian opposition. Israel also commited more crimes and killed more civilians through the decades than Hamas could ever hope to achieve. 4 5
Kayseri Mantisi Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Axelios said: The existence of Hamas is the result of Israel actions and policies whose goal was to divide the Palestinian opposition. Israel also commited more crimes and killed more civilians through the decades than Hamas could ever hope to achieve. incoming history knowledge lacking rant coming starting with the “NPCs”
Fav Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kayseri Mantisi said: incoming history knowledge lacking rant coming starting with the “NPCs” We're all "NPC" on the "wrong side of History"' babes... Yet we're the ones bringing only but facts everytime. Edited October 11, 2023 by Fav 1
Cain Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Unshockinly there are a lot of pro-Israel people left who would love this statement
JustLikeHoney Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Fav said: Interesting you're saying that. The Israel’s Defense Minister literally views Gaza as "human animals". So are you disagreeing with him? Btw, the jihad is the act of faith to reclaim lands, so kinda what Israel has been doing for decades against Palestinian lands. Hamas is the government of Gaza. This Israeli Defense Minister said "we are fighting human animals." He was talking about Hamas not the people of Gaza. Please stop spreading half truths. 2
Fav Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, JustLikeHoney said: Hamas is the government of Gaza. This Israeli Defense Minister said "we are fighting human animals." He was talking about Hamas not the people of Gaza. Please stop spreading half truths. Just like far-right extremist Netanyahu is the head of the governement of Israel. What's your point? 1
LookinAssHittas Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Communion said: You're genuinely such a hateful propagandist. EGYPT AND PALESTINIANS BOTH DONT WANT GAZANS TO FLEE TO EGYPT BECAUSE ISRAEL WILL NOT LET THEM COME BACK ONCE THE BOMBING IS OVER. A PALESTINIAN WHO TAKES REFUGE OUTSIDE OF PALESTINE IS THEN BARRED BY ISRAEL FROM COMING BACK. THAT HAS LITERALLY BEEN THE ROOT OF THIS CONFLICT FOR DECADES. WHY ARE YOU CONTINUALLY CALLING FOR GAZA TO BE ETHNICALLY CLEANSED? It's genuinely sickening to see you push what is objectively pro-ethnic cleansing propaganda. There is no need for Gazans to leave their homes to flee a mass bombing campaign that Europe and North America should be able to force Israel to not do. Demand Israel not indiscriminately bomb. Give Egypt entry into Gaza like they have been asking to do if Israel can't be stopped from bombing. Even when confronted with Israeli leaders calling for the extermination of the Palestinian people, you and others still gleefully offer only one solution: a Palestine without anymore Palestinians. Why should people run from a bombing campaign the US has the absolute power to stop? Thank you so much. And then this ******* had the NERVE to gaslight @Cloröx on the previous page. “I’m In CoNsTaNt CoNtAcT wItH mY pAlEsTiNiAn FrIeNdS! WhAt HaVe YoU dOnE tOdAy!” 3 1
Cain Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Also it’s SO interesting to me how people can say ‘the hypocrisy to support Ukraine but not Israel’ like… WHAT? I’ve heard it a couple times these last few days but it’s literally impossible for me to get how you can support Ukraine AND Israel? Like you either support a settler-colonizer state or you don’t, you either support Ukraine and Palestine or you support Russia and Israel. The cognitive dissonance you would need to mix these up 1 10
JustLikeHoney Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, Fav said: Just like far-right extremist Netanyahu is the head of the governement of Israel. What's your point? Both are correct but you are conflating Hamas with the people of Palestine to cause confusion.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted October 11, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said: Hamas is the government of Gaza. This Israeli Defense Minister said "we are fighting human animals." He was talking about Hamas not the people of Gaza. Please stop spreading half truths. So is the "complete siege" he ordered on all of Gaza only going to affect Hamas or..? Human history is littered with endless examples of one side dehumanizing the others by calling them animals, barbarians, savages, etc. It is done intentionally to make it easier for people to cope with the fact that countless innocent people will be killed. The Israeli Defense Minister is very precisely not giving a damn about innocent lives on the other end. 5 1
Fav Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, Bloo said: So is the "complete siege" he ordered on all of Gaza only going to affect Hamas or..? Human history is littered with endless examples of one side dehumanizing the others by calling them animals, barbarians, savages, etc. It is done intentionally to make it easier for people to cope with the fact that countless innocent people will be killed. The Israeli Defense Minister is very precisely not giving a damn about innocent lives on the other end. Not the moderation team dragging the unschooled...........
JustLikeHoney Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Bloo said: So is the "complete siege" he ordered on all of Gaza only going to affect Hamas or..? Human history is littered with endless examples of one side dehumanizing the others by calling them animals, barbarians, savages, etc. It is done intentionally to make it easier for people to cope with the fact that countless innocent people will be killed. The Israeli Defense Minister is very precisely not giving a damn about innocent lives on the other end. It's an order of all Gaza because Gaza is controlled by Hamas. But the people they are fighting with is Hamas. Hamas just murdered 1200 people in Israel including 14 Americans and are still holding people hostage. They started a War. 1
awesomepossum Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Gui Blackout said: The hatred yall have for an 18yo Jew grieving and expressing solidarity after the biggest mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust... truly a sight to behold Doesn't come close to the greatest number of deaths on either side in a single day in this conflict. The fact that you're comparing this to the Holocaust - which was committed by Europeans - instead of comparing it to the number of Palestinians Israel has killed is.... interesting. 2
Fav Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, awesomepossum said: Doesn't come close to the greatest number of deaths on either side in a single day in this conflict. The fact that you're comparing this to the Holocaust - which was committed by Europeans - instead of comparing it to the number of Palestinians Israel has killed is.... interesting. 1
Communion Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, LookinAssHittas said: Thank you so much. And then this ******* had the NERVE to gaslight @Cloröx on the previous page. “I’m In CoNsTaNt CoNtAcT wItH mY pAlEsTiNiAn FrIeNdS! WhAt HaVe YoU dOnE tOdAy!” Like I'm sorry but people either have to be misinformed liberals who think that "yass!! have everyone go to Egypt for safety!!!" is somehow a reasonable answer to proposed genocide because they think Israel has to be compromised with, or people very intently and maliciously know what the absence of Gazans from Gaza means and support it. It's one thing to just not know, but for someone to repeatedly lie that Israel is actually humanely bombing all of Gaza and that somehow any death is on Egypt's shoulders AND continue to double down that the best possible solution is for Israel to continue bombing and Egypt be forced to accept 2M refugees even after it pointed out that this is literally the ethnic cleansing aim of said bombong.campaigns is?? Edited October 11, 2023 by Communion 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted October 11, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said: It's an order of all Gaza because Gaza is controlled by Hamas. But the people they are fighting with is Hamas. Hamas just murdered 1200 people in Israel including 14 Americans and are still holding people hostage. They started a War. This conflict is not new. Before the recent attack, 2023 was already the deadliest year for children in Palestine because of Israel [x]. You can acknowledge Hamas is a terrorist organization and still acknowledge that the Israeli government is an apartheid state that has done unspeakable acts against the Palestinian people. Hamas exists because of the Israeli government and it rose to power because of the continued violence perpetuated against Palestinian people. 9
Lille Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 I wonder if Anne Frank would be a fan of his post? 4
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