news Israel-Palestine Conflict 2023/ 2024 Mega Thread

[Delirious]

11 minutes ago, airplane said:

certain people only come in here to spread zionist propaganda when everything they’ve said has been debunked countless times 

like what?

[Letemtalk]

More people getting shadowbanned on Elon Musk's free speech platform.

This time John Cusack.

https://twitter.com/search?q=john cusack

 

[Bhabylon]

It frustrates me how Zionist’s will be quick to label Palestine support as “wokeism” — and to see  people (mainly centerist libs) actually fall for it because they’re too lazy to think for themselves

[Cloröx]

27 minutes ago, Letemtalk said:

More people getting shadowbanned on Elon Musk's free speech platform.

Try searching for John Cusack.

https://twitter.com/search?q=john cusack

 

ISISrael is so desperate to win the propaganda war, I'm super glad that more and more people finally found the truth. It's time to expose that terrorist state their war crime 

 

I STAND WITH PALESTINE AND ITS FIGHT AGAINST TERROR AND MODERN NAZI.

[Letemtalk]

Gaza civilian death toll > 9000 in four weeks
Ukraine civilian death toll = 9,701 (OHCHR figures) for 24 February 2022 – 24 September 2023
- numbers from the Prosecutor General of Ukraine are about 1000 higher.

 

Netanyahu, assisted by Joe Biden and American weapons, has killed a similar number of civilians in four weeks, to the number Putin killed in 82 weeks. But apparently it would be anti-Semitic to call for sanctions on Israel, or even suggest that dropping bombs on children should stop.

 

But Netanyahu and Biden have killed a lot more children.

 

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More than 3,700 Palestinian children have been killed in 25 days of fighting — more than six times the 560 children that the U.N. has reported killed in 19 months of war in Ukraine as of Oct. 8.

 

[Cloröx]

This is why human shield argument is so bullsheet yet certain ATRLers are selling it 

 

 

 

I STAND WITH PALESTINE AND ITS FIGHT AGAINST TERROR AND MODERN NAZI.

[State of Grace.]

**** Israel, **** America, **** zionists, **** its defenders, and **** the neutral. You're all complicit 

 

 

[FOCK]

Liberals are so annoying. It’s like their mind just short circuits when they’re faced with the reality of their own ideology. I can’t even begin to imagine what it’s like living with self imposed stop signs to major brain routes like Robbie.

Bri has the patience of a saint. A frustrating, but great discussion nonetheless. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by FOCK

[VilsonMuqa]

14 BILLION ARE U ******* KIDDING MEEEEE????? Omggggg

 

[FOCK]

Nasrallah’s speech is set to be delivered in about 2 & half hours now from now, 3pm Lebanon time. 

[Chemist]

 

Hope it goes to the right hands

[Gaia]

Where does UN money come from. 

 

Not me googling to find out US is the biggest doner  

 

US taxpaying dollars going to be funneled into both sides?

 

istg if these politicians don't call for a ceasefire but instead keep sending money to Israel and Gaza as it continues 

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by Gaia

[BorderBoy]

12 hours ago, naomi24 said:

Zionists in the quotes calling this a Muslim on Muslim crime again and bringing up antisemitism....

baby it's ethno -nationalism which is what you also partake in ....the victim complex goes crazy 

 

 

 

And yeah, **** Pakistani govt. lol another military state that needs to be dismantled.

 

 

I really feel bad for Americans who have absolutely no choice where their tax money goes yet still have to pay for college and healthcare.

[Cloröx]

1 hour ago, VilsonMuqa said:

14 BILLION ARE U ******* KIDDING MEEEEE????? Omggggg

 

All these money can save live helping people with chronic disease yet it goes straight to kill another live. This is insane 

[Cloröx]

Ukraine is turning into US lapdog, and of course ISISrael 

 

 

[Cloröx]

 

[Cloröx]

I've never seen Piers so quiet, not even a single word for five minutes 

 

 

[Communion]

11 hours ago, Aristotle said:

I mean even Jews are safer in America than in Israel. Jews could've had their safe heaven that they truly deserve somewhere in Uganda or like Tasmania if it wasn't for blind nationalistic historical pride and religious stupidity.

 

10 hours ago, Cloröx said:

Place/location is not the issue, it's their Zionism, ambition for one truly ethnostate. Israel/Palestine can coexist if they can behave themselves not trying to be a parasite.

This is largely the issue, though I appreciate the growth @Aristotle has had on the topic.

 

The plans for a Jewish state in Argentina, Uganda, etc. all would have had the same issues because they still involved mass migration and displacement. The issue with Zionists who try to compare Zionism to self-determination of indigenous groups is that the struggles simply don't line up due to amalgamating all subsets of the religion.

 

It'd be like folding every native American and Canadian population into one and suggesting there'd be some mass native homeland in Alaska (also already home to another indigenous people!) for all of them to have as one. 

 

The sales pitch of Zionisn as a movement of indigeneity fails because it asks people to believe the native Mizrahi population is somehow connected to a "diaspora" that's just an Ashkneazi population who has spent the last 2,000 years within the hills and farmlands of Europe. How is... *spins wheel* a 21-year-old Jewish man from Brooklyn *spins wheel* whose lineage sees the last 2,000 years spent in what is today Poland *spins wheel* somehow entitled to not only replace a Palestinian person whose family has been there for 400-500 years but also steal the literal house they're living in?

 

But Zionists aren't asking for a separate Ashkenazi state in Poland, a Mizrahi state in the Levant, etc. And when you point out this contradiction, they'd likely retort with: "Ethnicity is a social construct, built around shared language and culture, which all of the Jewish people have!". So.. it went from genocide via blood right to genocide via social construct? 

 

Let alone that much of them won't willingly own up to that it's not about blood right or shared culture for many of them but religious prophecy, which makes the silence of ATRL's very vocal "anti-religion" members so... interesting!

Edited November 3, 2023 by Communion

[Communion]

9 hours ago, Delirious said:

"The Hamas Atrocities That Israel Didn’t Show: ‘We Saw a Little Baby in the Oven"

 

https://themessenger.com/news/the-hamas-atrocities-that-israel-didnt-show-we-saw-a-little-baby-in-the-oven

 

Graphic evidence of Israeli babies beheaded by Hamas.

 

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GRAPHIC STORY about a pregnant woman NSFW:

 

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They cut the fetus out and made the mother watch them brutalize it.  Then, they cut off her breasts and let her bleed out

 

 

9 hours ago, Delirious said:

What are you trying to say here? That the evidence and sources are fake?

 

9 hours ago, KUNTPERFECTA said:

Don’t you dare denying what happened on Oct. 7! That’s monstrous! 
I suggest you check what happened before you speak. 

 

8 hours ago, Delirious said:

Did you even see the tweets and photos....

 

Lemme ask you this quick question. Do you even believe October 7's terrorist attack even happened?

 

8 hours ago, Delirious said:

Girl this is insane....

 

So you deny that the October 7 massacre that killed 1,400 people ever happened?

For those reading and not swayed by someone posting fake news cause they hate Muslims:

 

Even the IDF had to come out and tell Israeli journalists the "baby in the oven" story was faked by a Zionist extremist:

 

 

[Delirious]

2 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

 

 

 

For those reading and not swayed by someone posting fake news cause they hate Muslims:

 

Even the IDF had to come out and tell Israeli journalists the "baby in the oven" story was faked by a Zionist extremist:

 

 

Article posted 4 hours ago of a statement by Israel's Emergency worker:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12703453/Hamas-killers-roasted-babies-oven.html

 

At the beginning you guys said babies weren't beheaded and then photos of burnt baby corpses were released.

 

Then you guys said it wasnt actually a photo of a beheaded baby and theyre faked images and used the puppy image from 4chan as evidence when that puppy image was actually manipulating the original image.

 

Then a week later, they provide evidence of many beheaded baby's heads burnt to a crisp. But you guys are saying it's AI generated or fake again. Do we see a pattern here?

[airplane]

11 minutes ago, Delirious said:

Article posted 4 hours ago of a statement by Israel's Emergency worker:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12703453/Hamas-killers-roasted-babies-oven.html

 

At the beginning you guys said babies weren't beheaded and then photos of burnt baby corpses were released.

 

Then you guys said it wasnt actually a photo of a beheaded baby and theyre faked images and used the puppy image from 4chan as evidence when that puppy image was actually manipulating the original image.

 

Then a week later, they provide evidence of many beheaded baby's heads burnt to a crisp. But you guys are saying it's AI generated or fake again. Do we see a pattern here?

The only pattern i see here is you coming in here to post about bullshit that was already debunked but its crickets regarding the massacre in Gaza. I think we all know where you stand.

 

Israel has been caught fabricating “evidence” so many times and yet you still keep spewing their lies and bullshit

Edited November 3, 2023 by airplane

[ForgottenSoul]

9 hours ago, Delirious said:

Did you even see the tweets and photos....

 

Lemme ask you this quick question. Do you even believe October 7's terrorist attack even happened?

 

These people dont think it was a terrorist act thats the issue , Hamas are freedom fighters for these people. 

9 hours ago, Cloröx said:

I saw that and I don't believe it considering IDF lies have been debunked multiple times before. And that person is not trustworthy at all. Oct 7 attack did happen but that atrocities regarding the baby is questionable.

lmfao meanwhile I bet you believe everything Hamas says.. 

 

8 hours ago, Mr. Mendes said:

Yes, this thread is full of hatred of the IDF because the IDF is a terrorist group the same as Hamas is. They do the same thing Hamas does, so why should the IDF be viewed any differently than Hamas? Civilian murder is civilian murder. Child murder is child murder. If you engage in that, you're a terrorist. Hamas engages in it, and they're terrorists. The IDF engages in it, and they're terrorists. 

 

It isn't antisemitic to point out that Israel is commiting warcrimes. It isn't antisemitic to say that the IDF is a terrorist organization. It isn't antisemitic to say that Israel has no right to be doing to Palestine what they've been doing for decades

 

That has nothing to do with anyone in Israel being Jewish. Not a thing. Your continued insistence that any criticism towards Israel demonstrates a very clear lack of understanding in what is actually happening as well as a deeply dark disinterest in actually being educated on the matter. 

 

The hatred so many here hold for the actions of Israel is completely independent of the sizable Jewish population in Israel. Hell, the hatred so many here have for the actions of Israel has nothing to do with the citizens of Israel period but rather their genocidal government and terroristic military. 

 

It's very telling that so many people want to lump together all the people of Israel and treat them as one Jewish collective when the truth of the matter is that completely disregards the millions and millions of Jews all over the world who're staunchly anti-zionism. It's antisemitic in and of itself to speak of Israelis as one hive minded Jewish collective who somehow stands for and represents every action of the Israeli government. 

 

Israeli citizens don't like their government any more than the Free Palestine movement does. They protested the genocidal maniac that's in office loudly and clearly last year. 

 

You can't stand against terror and still support the IDF. Doesn't work that way. 

 

 

The issue is people here are supporting Hamas if both are terrorist groups why do people only call out Isreal and act like Hamas is a freedom fighter group? 

 

 

[Cloröx]

1 minute ago, ForgottenSoul said:

 

These people dont think it was a terrorist act thats the issue , Hamas are freedom fighters for these people. 

lmfao meanwhile I bet you believe everything Hamas says.. 

 

The issue is people here are supporting Hamas if both are terrorist groups why do people only call out Isreal and act like Hamas is a freedom fighter group? 

 

 

For the record, my country does not recognize Hamas as terrorist organization

[ForgottenSoul]

7 hours ago, Cloröx said:

Well I guess it's time to ban you again because it's pretty clear that you are supporting current genocide + denying facts that IDF has abandoned the hostages, refuse to negotiate, reject ceasefire etc.

 

I STAND WITH PALESTINE AND ITS FIGHT AGAINST TERROR AND MODERN NAZI.

I guess your supporting genocide also because thats Hamas current goal you refuse to denounce and who also want no ceasfire.

 

4 hours ago, Cloröx said:

This is why human shield argument is so bullsheet yet certain ATRLers are selling it 

 

 

 

I STAND WITH PALESTINE AND ITS FIGHT AGAINST TERROR AND MODERN NAZI.

They are doing special operations though and were doing that before they went into gaza? 

[ForgottenSoul]

2 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

For the record, my country does not recognize Hamas as terrorist organization

Well done they still committed a terrorist act that you refuse to denounce. Hamas has fired 8k rockets in a month and killed 1400 people do you denounce that? 

Edited November 3, 2023 by ForgottenSoul