Shelter Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 Has Israel posted how many Hamas has been killed so far?
ForgottenSoul Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: The two-state solution won’t happen because Israel doesn’t want it to. Even if the Palestinians were no longer under Hamas control, the Israelis want to push the Palestinians completely out of Gaza into Sinai. They also want West Bank residents to be taken in by Jordan and that will likely be the focus once Gaza has been successfully cleared out. I don't think Netanyahu wants it to happen unsure what the broad Isreali people think, and unsure if they want Gaza guess we shall see if they attempt to do like they did to the West Bank to Gaza which they did before but left Gaza. I don't think Hamas or Netanyahu want a two-state solution. There have been leaders of Isreal who did honestly want a two-state solution but the extreme Israeli people and Hamas screw stuff like that up. Edited November 2, 2023 by ForgottenSoul 1
State of Grace. Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, DAP said: You couldn’t make this up even if you tried Ksksklsksk do they think this will somehow make Muslim / Arab Americans forget that Genocide Joe is funding Israel 2 1
Gaia Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 Israel is not going to be dissolved. The US would obviously back IDF completely cleansing Israel of Palestinians before they allow Israel to be dissolved. Expecting that is just nonsensical. 1
Chemist Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 48 minutes ago, DAP said: You couldn’t make this up even if you tried The massive ratio
State of Grace. Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) They're really scrambling after those polls "Silence is complicity. We won't be silent." except you are not silent, you're blatantly and actively supporting the killing of thousands of Palestinians At this point its becoming a troll account like @Israel Edited November 2, 2023 by State of Grace. 1 1
RihRihGirrrl Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: They're really scrambling after those polls "Silence is complicity. We won't be silent." except you are not silent, you're blatantly and actively supporting the killing of thousands of Palestinians At this point its becoming a troll account like @Israel I just can't....I've decided I'm not voting for Biden again. And before someone says 'but Trump....' I'm fully aware that that buffoon and the Repubs would be worst on this issue....but dammit I have to start holding the politicians I vote for accountable. Genocide Joe has got to go! Hopefully the whole Dem party feels it at the ballot booth and realizes aiding and abetting a whole genocide and actively dehumanizing the Palestinian people is NOT something their base will tolerate!
FlyPirate Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 3 hours ago, DAP said: You couldn’t make this up even if you tried I can't even express how much I hate this person.
Take Me Apart Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 4 hours ago, ForgottenSoul said: Not sure if what shes saying is correct, but wouldnt be surprised. People here seem to think everyone loves Hamas. The Palestinian people were the first hostages of HAMAS. We need to support their liberation from that tyrannical organization. I've read that most of the humanitarian aid is being hoarded by HAMAS and kept away from innocent civilians, idk if that's true but I wouldn't even be surprised if it were the case. 1 4
More Than A Melody Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, RihRihGirrrl said: I just can't....I've decided I'm not voting for Biden again. And before someone says 'but Trump....' I'm fully aware that that buffoon and the Repubs would be worst on this issue....but dammit I have to start holding the politicians I vote for accountable. Genocide Joe has got to go! Hopefully the whole Dem party feels it at the ballot booth and realizes aiding and abetting a whole genocide and actively dehumanizing the Palestinian people is NOT something their base will tolerate! As I said before, I personally would probably suck it up and still vote Biden, were I given the chance BUT, I also have come to this conclusion When I want to declutter my house, first I have to make a mess. Sometimes you have to go through a tough time in order to get a better result. Four years of Trump would be devastating, but imo, continuing with the status quo will never lead to a change. Perhaps it's worth it to endure Trump for four years if it kicks the dems into gear. It's very possible it won't be worth it at all. I'm personally not willing to bear the guilt of finding out, but I can't say I judge those who do.
More Than A Melody Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Gaia said: Israel is not going to be dissolved. The US would obviously back IDF completely cleansing Israel of Palestinians before they allow Israel to be dissolved. Expecting that is just nonsensical. No one is expecting that.
State of Grace. Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Take Me Apart said: The Palestinian people were the first hostages of HAMAS. We need to support their liberation from that tyrannical organization. I've read that most of the humanitarian aid is being hoarded by HAMAS and kept away from innocent civilians, idk if that's true but I wouldn't even be surprised if it were the case. Funny how you (and many others) disappeared from this thread after being unable to respond to several questions and arguments presented by members here. But you came back to say that Palestinians should be liberated from.....Hamas? You typed this as Israel continues its massacres against them? Pls. 1
RihRihGirrrl Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: As I said before, I personally would probably suck it up and still vote Biden, were I given the chance BUT, I also have come to this conclusion When I want to declutter my house, first I have to make a mess. Sometimes you have to go through a tough time in order to get a better result. Four years of Trump would be devastating, but imo, continuing with the status quo will never lead to a change. Perhaps it's worth it to endure Trump for four years if it kicks the dems into gear. It's very possible it won't be worth it at all. I'm personally not willing to bear the guilt of finding out, but I can't say I judge those who do. Yeah I generally think Biden has been a desent President and the U.S is in a much better place today than 4 years ago. But even though I'm better off today, I cannot square my conscious with the Dem's total amorality when it comes to the current situation in Gaza and their disgusting rhetoric around Palestinians in general. Biden questioning the death toll, refusing to draw any red lines with Isreal, refusing to call for a ceasefire, saying he would be a zionist were he a Jew (dumb fool), and ofcourse the overzealous funding of Isreal so they can carry out this complete ethnic cleansing....it's just all too much.
ForgottenSoul Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, More Than A Melody said: For the umpteenth time, are you deliberately obtuse? THIS. IS. THE. TWO. STATE. SOLUTION. Israel will absolutely NOT rest until they wipe Palestine out of the map and get the entire territory. That has been their goal since the 1800s. They have NO interest in partitioning the land. A two state solution is what you're looking at (regardless of Palestine's statehood, they have partitioned land now). Israel lying and deceiving and provoking until they're allowed to have the entire land. Displacing and murdering millions if necessary. How do you not get it by now? How many more people have to die? How many more war crimes does Israel have to commit? "If the US forces Israel to..." girl, the UN did that in 1948 and this is what we have right now. The UN considers the West Bank occupied by Israel. The reason Israel is obligated to provide water and electricity to Gaza it's that they're blockading it. This is what it looks like when a two state solution is enforced by the west. Without diplomatic intervention this will never stop, not until there's a fully executed genocide. Israel needs to be dissolved. The idea of a majority Jewish ethnostate has to be abandoned forever. If those motivations aren't erased this will NOT CHANGE. 14 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: No one is expecting that. Yet you said Isreal needs to be dissolved? 9 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Funny how you (and many others) disappeared from this thread after being unable to respond to several questions and arguments presented by members here. But you came back to say that Palestinians should be liberated from.....Hamas? You typed this as Israel continues its massacres against them? Pls. Both Isreal and Hamas can be wrong I know its hard for people here to accept that... Edited November 2, 2023 by ForgottenSoul 2
Take Me Apart Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Funny how you (and many others) disappeared from this thread after being unable to respond to several questions and arguments presented by members here. Hmm I can't speak for everyone but personally, I have a job and I'm not about to spend my entire online time debating strangers A lot of us have also realized that this thread isn't exactly the ideal place to hold a debate, with a lot of users resorting to personal attacks and reporting any post that goes against their opinion 1 5
State of Grace. Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, Take Me Apart said: Hmm I can't speak for everyone but personally, I have a job and I'm not about to spend my entire online time debating strangers A lot of us have also realized that this thread isn't exactly the ideal place to hold a debate, with a lot of users resorting to personal attacks and reporting any post that goes against their opinion So you have nothing to say about the ongoing genocide and massacres committed by Israel? Just as I thought 1
Buffy Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 Has Hamas been attacking Israel these past couple weeks? All I keep seeing and hearing about is Israel bombing Gaza lately.
Gaia Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 It’s pretty obvious at this point the IDF hates Palestinians and are using Hamas as justification. Kinda wild the news I see says “Israel strikes become broader in war against Hamas” October 7th may have been the event to catalyze this recent bombardment but I wouldn’t call it a war against Hamas when most dead are civilians 2 1 1
State of Grace. Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 I wonder how many times they going to just state the obvious and say "This is against International Law!!!!" without doing anything. We've lost count of the violations and abuses. Truly the most useless org on earth 🥴 1 1
RihRihGirrrl Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: I wonder how many times they going to just state the obvious and say "This is against International Law!!!!" without doing anything. We've lost count of the violations and abuses. Truly the most useless org on earth 🥴 The fact that there has been no calls for sanctions at this point
ForgottenSoul Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Buffy said: Has Hamas been attacking Israel these past couple weeks? All I keep seeing and hearing about is Israel bombing Gaza lately. Yes, they have been firing hundreds of rockets a week still. https://rocketalert.live/ Past month Isreal has had 8.3k rocket alerts. Edited November 2, 2023 by ForgottenSoul
Gaia Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: Yes, they have been firing hundreds of rockets a week still. https://rocketalert.live/ Past month Isreal has had 8.3k rocket alerts. If Israel didn’t have a missile defense system the casualties on the Israeli side would be a lot higher and I think that gets ignored.
Shelter Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gaia said: If Israel didn’t have a missile defense system the casualties on the Israeli side would be a lot higher and I think that gets ignored. Not higher than Palestine though.
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