naomi24 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Udi said: 7300 dead according to the Hamas controlled ministry of health.. the same ones that lied about Israel bombing the Christian hospital - a lie that has been debunked. Unfortunately too many Palestinians have died but we don’t know the real figures due to Hamas’ lying. As an Israeli immigrant who served in the IDF and who literally has siblings serving back home as we speak and is scared to death for their lives, I can guarantee Israel does everything in its power to minimize and avoid the death of civilians on both sides. On the other hand, there’s countless evidence that Hamas hides behind civilians because they DO NOT care about Palestinians - they only care about killing Jews/Israelis. We all have to be very cautious about the disinformation and blood libel campaign Hamas is running against Israel. They want the world to hate the Jewish state in order to make it easier to accomplish what’s written in their original manifesto - the extermination of the Jewish people from the whole world. Israel is not at war against Palestinian Arabs, the war is against Hamas terrorists who want to wipe out Israel. Unfortunately due to the unspeakably atrocities that Hamas committed against Israelis (the greatest number of Jews killed in a single day since the Holocaust) and citizens from several other countries, I don’t see a ceasefire happening until the government is sure there’s no more Hamas. But of one thing I’m certain, the elimination of Hamas from Gaza will not only benefit Israel but also the Palestinian cause and will bring the much needed peace to the region. We can only hope for that. 🙏 LOL now why would you out yourself like that The power balance is so immense that it is obvious to anyone , even a child, that Israel - with all its billions of dollars of military aid and Western support - is NOT the one with more victims in this conflict than Palestine. You talk about Hamas terrorism harming Israel or the Jewish cause around the world but Israel is the one acting (and HAS ALWAYS ACTED) on a collective punishment for the entirety of the Gaza strip because of the action of a few individuals. Hypocrisy much? Or are you this brainwashed? 6
Uncatena Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 @Udi this is not a safe space for colonizers and zionists. delete your account. 5 1
Archetype Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, worldwide angel said: the UN Security council is just another vile colonial project Yes but many of the important countries condemning the Israeli govt are textbook colonial and/or genocidal powers in present day, so I think this goes above a sort of fraternity mentality of "protecting your colonialist genocidal brother" and more into... "we have deals and regional interests/assets to uphold, and continued Israeli control is the only way to secure that" or "continued Israeli control is a detriment to our influence in the region". Most of these countries do not care about human rights and continuously violate them, that is a fact. It's about power and control. Edited October 27, 2023 by Archetype
naomi24 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 " MY RIGHT-WING, RACIST, ETHNOSTATE SUPPORTING, RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST, PRO-MAJORITY, PRO-MILITARY GOVT. WILL NEVERRRRRRR HURT MINORTITY CIVILIANS GUYSSSS AND EVEN IF THEY DID ITS ALL JUSTIFIED!!!!! THIS IS A CONSPIRACYYYYYYYYYYY THE NUMBER OF DEAD PEOPLE IS FAKEEEEE" The delusion 2
Shelter Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Udi said: 7300 dead according to the Hamas controlled ministry of health.. the same ones that lied about Israel bombing the Christian hospital - a lie that has been debunked. Unfortunately too many Palestinians have died but we don’t know the real figures due to Hamas’ lying. As an Israeli immigrant who served in the IDF and who literally has siblings serving back home as we speak and is scared to death for their lives, I can guarantee Israel does everything in its power to minimize and avoid the death of civilians on both sides. On the other hand, there’s countless evidence that Hamas hides behind civilians because they DO NOT care about Palestinians - they only care about killing Jews/Israelis. We all have to be very cautious about the disinformation and blood libel campaign Hamas is running against Israel. They want the world to hate the Jewish state in order to make it easier to accomplish what’s written in their original manifesto - the extermination of the Jewish people from the whole world. Israel is not at war against Palestinian Arabs, the war is against Hamas terrorists who want to wipe out Israel. Unfortunately due to the unspeakably atrocities that Hamas committed against Israelis (the greatest number of Jews killed in a single day since the Holocaust) and citizens from several other countries, I don’t see a ceasefire happening until the government is sure there’s no more Hamas. But of one thing I’m certain, the elimination of Hamas from Gaza will not only benefit Israel but also the Palestinian cause and will bring the much needed peace to the region. We can only hope for that. 🙏 I think it’s a bit delusional to think peace is going to happen after this, or is it just me? Other countries will come for Israel. 1
naomi24 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Shelter said: I think it’s a bit delusional to think peace is going to happen after this, or is it just me? Other countries will come for Israel. peace for israel is 100% possible because there is peace for turkey in 2023 after the armenian genocide. Peace for Palestine is something which never existed and probably never will. 3
Sombre Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, Udi said: Hamas committed against Israelis (the greatest number of Jews killed in a single day since the Holocaust) Unfortunately too many Israelis have died but we don’t know the real figures due to IDF lying. 🙏 Spoiler See? We too can play that denial game. 1 1
Shelter Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, naomi24 said: peace for israel is 100% possible because there is peace for turkey in 2023 after the armenian genocide. Peace for Palestine is something which never existed and probably never will. Can we really compare though?
Sombre Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, Udi said: But of one thing I’m certain, the elimination of Hamas from Gaza will not only benefit Israel but also the Palestinian The only elimination that benefits Palestinians is that of Israeli settlers. FREE PALESTINE. 75 ******* YEARS! FREE PALESTINE! GIVE INNOCENT PEOPLE THEIR HOMES BACK. 5 1
naomi24 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shelter said: Can we really compare though? ppl have been screaming for years about their atrocities yet israel hasnt stopped receiving support from most countries in the world. Their denial of the Nakba is the same as turkey's genocide denying ass. These nations are just too important for the geopolitical interests of the big players. This is why they are scrambling to maintain a good diplomatic relation with them despite everything. So yes its comparable. I sincerely hope i am wrong. 1 3
Shelter Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, naomi24 said: ppl have been screaming for years about their atrocities yet israel hasnt stopped receiving support from most countries in the world. Their denial of the Nakba is the same as turkey's genocide denying ass. These nations are just too important for the geopolitical interests of the big players. This is why they are scrambling to maintain a good diplomatic relation with them despite everything. So yes its comparable. I sincerely hope i am wrong. The big players have shown what they are like, I think all the protests for Palestine is something they weren’t expecting and that’s what I mean. I don’t think people will let this one go. This might cost Biden the election too. 1
naomi24 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Shelter said: The big players have shown what they are like, I think all the protests for Palestine is something they weren’t expecting and that’s what I mean. I don’t think people will let this one go. This might cost Biden the election too. uhhhhhh i am a pessimist I guess. But of course, i hope you are right!
Mezik Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 48 minutes ago, Udi said: 7300 dead according to the Hamas controlled ministry of health.. the same ones that lied about Israel bombing the Christian hospital - a lie that has been debunked. Unfortunately too many Palestinians have died but we don’t know the real figures due to Hamas’ lying. As an Israeli immigrant who served in the IDF and who literally has siblings serving back home as we speak and is scared to death for their lives, I can guarantee Israel does everything in its power to minimize and avoid the death of civilians on both sides. On the other hand, there’s countless evidence that Hamas hides behind civilians because they DO NOT care about Palestinians - they only care about killing Jews/Israelis. We all have to be very cautious about the disinformation and blood libel campaign Hamas is running against Israel. They want the world to hate the Jewish state in order to make it easier to accomplish what’s written in their original manifesto - the extermination of the Jewish people from the whole world. Israel is not at war against Palestinian Arabs, the war is against Hamas terrorists who want to wipe out Israel. Unfortunately due to the unspeakably atrocities that Hamas committed against Israelis (the greatest number of Jews killed in a single day since the Holocaust) and citizens from several other countries, I don’t see a ceasefire happening until the government is sure there’s no more Hamas. But of one thing I’m certain, the elimination of Hamas from Gaza will not only benefit Israel but also the Palestinian cause and will bring the much needed peace to the region. We can only hope for that. 🙏 You’re a piece of ****. Please stop posting and blatantly lying acting as if we’re idiots. Your brother should be charged for war crimes as a terrorist, and you are nothing but a terrorist yourself. 1 1
naomi24 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 btw here's the statement from the journalists working on ground and providing most of the Palestinian news to the world https://www.pjs.ps/the-palestinian-journalists-syndicate-pjs-expresses-its-deep-concern-for-the-lives-of-fellow-journalists-in-gaza/ The Palestinian Journalists Syndicate (PJS) sounds the alarm and expresses its deep concern for the lives of fellow journalists in Gaza Mohammad Zawahreh 3 ساعات مضت اخر الاخبار, الأخبار 588 زيارة مقالات مشابهة نقابة الصحفيين الفلسطينيين تدق ناقوس الخطر وتعبر عن قلقها الشديد على حياة الزملاء الصحفيين في غزة 3 ساعات مضت أيام مضت The Palestinian Journalists Syndicate (PJS) sounds the alarm and expresses its deep concern for the lives of fellow journalists in Gaza after all means of communication with them were cut off as a result of the Israeli destruction machine’s bombing of communications towers and cutting off all possibilities of communication with Gaza. The PJS sees this step as a prelude to new massacres to be committed by the occupation forces away from the cameras of journalists and their reliable and correct narratives, which is what it has sought for since the beginning of its war on Gaza. The PJS holds the Israeli occupation authorities fully responsible for the lives of fellow journalists and urges the United Nations and its organizations and all human rights organizations to immediately intervene and stop the war of genocide in Gaza and restore access to communication in Gaza.
LookinAssHittas Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 I’m honestly about to throw up. What makes this genocide even worse, besides they have the complete backing of the West, is knowing Israel is cutting off all communications and Internet to the Gaza Strip. They are LITERALLY trying to kill as many people as possible without having anyone know. I feel sick. 4
naomi24 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: Nearly the entire Western world voting against the ceasefire resolution or abstaining. Europe is TRASH. germany so far up Israel's ass they saw noah schnapp Spoiler i mean.... they know they are the one that accelerated the creation of the israeli settler state in the first place ... the opressors of the oppressors
Sharamee6 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) At some point in the future, retribution will be served to those who have acted unjustly. Although chances are slim that I'll be alive to see it, I wish to witness that day in spirit and find joy in the moment by having a good chuckle. The meek and vulnerable will have their share of victory. The weak shall rise and become stronger. The dominance of Zionist and white supremacist ideologies over a significant portion of the world will not last indefinitely. Though I am not inclined to delve into political discussions, I recognize that politics involves deceitful tactics, dominance, and strategic planning. However, everything has a finite lifespan, and one day, the cruel, calculating, barbaric, abhorrent and manipulative manner in which the masses are controlled, nations destroyed, resources stolen, and unwarranted interventions occur will come to an end. The sooner, the better. DTI - DTA - DTWS - DTZ. FP. BLM. Go figure. Edited October 27, 2023 by Sharamee6 3
Aethereal Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 Yes airstrikes can be detected with satellites and they use Hamas as an excuse to justify the number of dead, when it comes to military operations Israel has no excuse left about shooting random civilians so they will cut off all communications for less information to be sent to the public.
DAP Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) A literal scorched earth campaign before our eyes Edited October 27, 2023 by DAP
worldwide angel Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Archetype said: Yes but many of the important countries condemning the Israeli govt are textbook colonial and/or genocidal powers in present day, so I think this goes above a sort of fraternity mentality of "protecting your colonialist genocidal brother" and more into... "we have deals and regional interests/assets to uphold, and continued Israeli control is the only way to secure that" or "continued Israeli control is a detriment to our influence in the region". Most of these countries do not care about human rights and continuously violate them, that is a fact. It's about power and control. I hope I didn't imply that we have any morally decent great power bc we don't. However, I feel like its both the fraternity you mentioned and the deals and interests, instead of it being more one way than another. Members of said colonialist genocidal brotherhood benefit the most from the regional interests and assets, at the expense of millions of innocent lives and global stability. Of course entities outside of that alliance benefit as well but in regards to the UN, that Security council is made of of imperialist countries.
Shelter Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Aristotle said: Yes airstrikes can be detected with satellites and they use Hamas as an excuse to justify the number of dead, when it comes to military operations Israel has no excuse left about shooting random civilians so they will cut off all communications for less information to be sent to the public. Is this allowed?
Cain Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shelter said: Is this allowed? By Universal Rule of Law? No, none of this is allowed
State of Grace. Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) This is stuff you only see in horror movies. History will remember that we witnessed genocide taking place in real-time and those who have the power not only looked away but enabled it and did nothing to stop it Edited October 27, 2023 by State of Grace.
Nicholai Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Udi said: 7300 dead according to the Hamas controlled ministry of health.. the same ones that lied about Israel bombing the Christian hospital - a lie that has been debunked. Unfortunately too many Palestinians have died but we don’t know the real figures due to Hamas’ lying. As an Israeli immigrant who served in the IDF and who literally has siblings serving back home as we speak and is scared to death for their lives, I can guarantee Israel does everything in its power to minimize and avoid the death of civilians on both sides. On the other hand, there’s countless evidence that Hamas hides behind civilians because they DO NOT care about Palestinians - they only care about killing Jews/Israelis. We all have to be very cautious about the disinformation and blood libel campaign Hamas is running against Israel. They want the world to hate the Jewish state in order to make it easier to accomplish what’s written in their original manifesto - the extermination of the Jewish people from the whole world. Israel is not at war against Palestinian Arabs, the war is against Hamas terrorists who want to wipe out Israel. Unfortunately due to the unspeakably atrocities that Hamas committed against Israelis (the greatest number of Jews killed in a single day since the Holocaust) and citizens from several other countries, I don’t see a ceasefire happening until the government is sure there’s no more Hamas. But of one thing I’m certain, the elimination of Hamas from Gaza will not only benefit Israel but also the Palestinian cause and will bring the much needed peace to the region. We can only hope for that. 🙏 IDF is trash, your siblings serving in that terrorist organization are trash, your colonizer country is trash and you are trash. 7 2
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