ClashAndBurn Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, Gaia said: I keep remembering that user state that humanitarianism "isn't transactional" but never seems to condemn users justifying the killing of Israeli civilians because the Israeli government has killed more Palestinians. Israel is an oppressive, far-right settler-colonial ethnostate with a developed army that has full Western backing with a population that votes enthusiastically to maintain this oppression for their "safety and security." But Palestinians "deserve what they get" because they voted for Hamas 17years ago and haven't had an opportunity to overthrow them since. Also, some Muslims are homophobic so they should all just die to indiscriminate firebombing, I guess! 5
More Than A Melody Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, Gaia said: I keep remembering that user state that humanitarianism "isn't transactional" but never seems to condemn users justifying the killing of Israeli civilians because the Israeli government has killed more Palestinians. That to me seems kind of transactional. Is Hamas justified in everything they do as long as the kill count is less than Israel? If you truly believed what you typed when defending a population's extreme homophobia (and that I should go out of my way to support them knowing many or most of them wouldn't do the same for me), then you'd also have the belief that no Israeli civilian death is justified by Hamas under any circumstance because "humanitarianism isn't transactional" and IDF killing innocent Palestinians doesn't justify Hamas killing innocent Israeli civilians. So yeah, will not be taking any morality lessons from you bunch. Stick to downvoting everything All this essay and you still haven't answered what you'd do.
ZeroSuitBritney Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Yesterday my boss told me “My passport is French, my body is Tunisian, but my heart is Palestinian” 4
Shelter Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Those on Israel’s side. Go watch Motaz_azaiza latest vid on insta and tell me you’re ok with that. 2
Aethereal Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 17 hours ago, Scars said: I'm from South America as well, our region had to endure decades of murderous military dictatorships, which were heavily financed by the West. Some countries had a military coup shortly after transitioning to democracy from a previous US-backed dictatorship. Mass killings, censorship, economic instability, brutal repression, oppression of sexual and ethnic minorities and generational trauma. To this day, some families still don’t know what happened to their loved ones that were missed during those dark ages. Our people had to endure all of that because losing support from a healthy South America to the USSR was a risk the US wasn’t willing to take during the Cold War. It’s important to look back and remember that our political heroes from that time, which were mostly affiliated with communist armed resistance groups, were once labeled as ‘bloody-thirsty terrorists’ by the West, local media and military junta. Communities from the Global South must not reduce their fight for liberation to a white-washed version of what the West deems as acceptable to their neoliberal idea of 'resistance'. Majority of genocides and deadly conflicts in Global South countries are incited by their leaders without any relation with the West though. (Not to minimize America's partial involvement in some of them.) A recent conflict let to over 350,000 dead in Yemen (this one was backed by Saudi Arabia) and over 380,000 dead in South Sudan. And there numerous similar tragedies in the past 30 years. There are also deadly genocides committed by Communists like the mass starvation of Ukrainians in 1932-1933, even though scholars are disputed whenever this famine was deliberately engineered by Stalin or an accident of policies that were taken back in the time. 2
State of Grace. Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shelter said: Those on Israel’s side. Go watch Motaz_azaiza latest vid on insta and tell me you’re ok with that. Between that video and the one with the baby with his head cut off being pulled out of the ambulance, I don't know which is worse, I really cant take it anymore and I'm not even there Edited October 24, 2023 by State of Grace.
RihRihGirrrl Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, DAP said: Only someone who doesn't see Palestinians as human beings can say something like this 5
Shelter Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Between that video and the one with the baby with his head cut off being pulled out of the ambulance, I don't know which is worse, I really cant take it anymore and I'm not even there It’s horrific. People need to watch and see it though. 2
FOCK Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, DAP said: The projection is insane. This is the new talking point now. 3
State of Grace. Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, DAP said: In other words: "a ceasefire would not benefit Israel and the US" I know at this point none of us are shocked but it's still WILD how there is absolutely zero consideration given to the innocent Palestinian lives dying as we speak 5
Chemist Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Israel and the US are really mad at the UN for this
State of Grace. Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shelter said: It’s horrific. People need to watch and see it though. Definitely. As hard as it is to watch these videos, the world needs to see them. Motaz Azaiza has been doing an incredible job documenting the reality of whats happening in Gaza and we don't even see half all of it 2
RihRihGirrrl Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, FOCK said: The projection is insane. This is the new talking point now. A literal pathological lunatic!
welham Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Y’all, the way zionists are SCRAMBLING underneath videos of the released hostage saying that H*amas treated her and the other hostage well is Like, I have no love for Hamas, and they’re saying that she was instructed to say that because her husband is still in captivity. Could be true, but again, the way they’re melting down all over Twitter underneath interviews with her about how it will be a “death sentence” to their hasbara campaign is just (The reactions I’m referencing are all in Hebrew underneath videos of the interview posted by Israeli news channels’ accounts, so that’s probably why you don’t see the stuff I talk about at all/very late) 2 1
State of Grace. Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, welham said: Y’all, the way zionists are SCRAMBLING underneath videos of the released hostage saying that H*amas treated her and the other hostage well is Like, I have no love for Hamas, and they’re saying that she was instructed to say that because her husband is still in captivity. Could be true, but again, the way they’re melting down all over Twitter underneath interviews with her about how it will be a “death sentence” to their hasbara campaign is just (The reactions I’m referencing are all in Hebrew underneath videos of the interview posted by Israeli news channels’ accounts, so that’s probably why you don’t see the stuff I talk about at all/very late) They're really angry because it's not helping their propaganda, like And the shameless CNN/BBC/NYP aren't slick with their "I went through hell" headline lmao 1
welham Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, State of Grace. said: They're really angry because it's not helping their propaganda, like And the shameless CNN/BBC/NYP aren't slick with their "I went through hell" headline lmao They’re already planning their counter social media campaign with the “she felt it was necessary to say it because her husband is in captivity.” Again, that might be true, who the **** knows at this point, but expect to see that point being blasted everywhere in mainstream news channels and social media accounts. 1
State of Grace. Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, FOCK said: Queen, literally. She really ATE. I LOVED how the journalist kept trying it several times and she shut her down each time 2
Stankonia Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 35 minutes ago, FOCK said: Queen, literally. Oh she's taking it
Gaia Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Rania of Jordan condemning the actions of Hamas while also making her point to condemn Israel for their actions and explaining eloquently that the issue far precedes Oct 7th with Israel's occupation and historical violence towards Palestinians. Stating any country has the right to defend itself but also explaining how Israel is not "defending itself" by killing Palestinian civilians due to actions of Hamas. Her condemning ALL violence and never justifying once killing any Israeli civilians but calling out the lack of Western government reactions to the killing of Palestinian civilians and Israel government's war crimes. Calling out the double standard of IDFs atrocities not being labeled terrorism while Hamas atrocities are. Her explaining how this war will have no "victory" and the only path to peace is if Palestine can have their own autonomous and independent state because even if Hamas is eradicated, if Israel's continues its reign of terror a new and more violent generation of anti-Israel hating Palestinians will emerge. Nice to see someone being able to make their points without once justifying the deaths of any Israelis She made some points. 1 1 1
Gaia Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, FOCK said: Oooop "that wasn't hard" 1
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