Chemist Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 Let me guess.. this is also a missguided airstrike 1 2
Headlock Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, chhalamars said: I just want to say that the left has exposed itself as antisemitic and apologists of terror groups. I want nothing to do with it. Enough. A right-wing troll doesn't want anything to do with the left? Shocker! 6 5
fememeist Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, chhalamars said: I just want to say that the left has exposed itself as antisemitic and apologists of terror groups. I want nothing to do with it. Enough. You’re not alone. 2
Headlock Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gaia said: Where did that happen in this thread? I'm talking about YOUR hypocritical behavior, not some generalized BS you typed out. This is exactly why there's no anti-Israel rally going on from the people you guys are asking it to come from. You guys are so ineffective at making any points, come across as extremely hypocritical, condescending, and biased. You come across as so insufferable that you're not changing any person's mind who isn't already pro-Palestinian. And mixing up ISIS and ALQ is really a non-issue but go off with that being the only thing you can keep mentioning. What I've gathered from this thread is you guys are just as susceptible to "propaganda" and spread misinformation the exact same way so to take your words with a grain of salt. You post any tweet you find without fact checking it first. The past 24 hours in this thread i've seen a lot of misinformation and antisemitism guised under "free Palestine" But that's fine for you guys apparently. Posting from a pseudo-moral high ground when you flat out admitted your inability to feel empathy towards Palestinians being slaughtered because of perceived homophobia is WILD. 6 4
bunnyeyes Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, chhalamars said: I just want to say that the left has exposed itself as antisemitic and apologists of terror groups. I want nothing to do with it. Enough. A stan of someone who allegedly “serially abused underaged girls” being consistently transphobic, sexist, defending Palestinian genocide and now coming out as right wing? 1
RihRihGirrrl Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Chemist said: More of this! Good! They need to feel a bombardment of pressure to at least tone down their rhetoric....God knows they won't actually speak against the Isreali Government 1
fememeist Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chemist said: Let me guess.. this is also a missguided airstrike We need to know the number of casualties so we can assess how bad we feel for them, and this may have been from those damn Hamas with their misfires! Don’t be antisemitic 2
FlyPirate Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, chhalamars said: I just want to say that the left has exposed itself as antisemitic and apologists of terror groups. I want nothing to do with it. Enough. rotten brain Edited October 18, 2023 by FlyPirate 2
fememeist Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 I wonder how some of yall would’ve been if ATRL was around the time of Jim Crow and the Black Panther party. Probably more or less the same.
fememeist Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Stankonia said: Another lie peddled by the IDF. So… what now? Will the ones who were passing along that propaganda piece(amongst the many propagandas over the 70+ years by the state of Israel, let alone the past week) please find another piece to deflect again?
Orsay Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Espresso said: This apparently happened earlier: Ugh…the worst thing about Israel and America’s lies is that Israel will 100% win this war, and the winners of wars get to write history. They have an ironclad hold on the narrative and those of us who can see through the bullshit will remain a shrinking minority 43 minutes ago, nooniebao said: Absolutely sickening: I hate America!!!
Khris Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 Israeli ambassador at the U.N. saying "anything coming from the streets of Gaza cannot be trusted, Hamas runs Gaza, Hamas runs all Gaza institutions, So whatever comes from the street, Hamas wants you to hear..." Absolutely unreal. It's America + Israel VS. The World at this point
Mezik Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 I’m so disappointed in Canada. Last night there was a rally in support of Palestine, and all my co workers could say was “Hamas bombed the hospital and the Israelis are being made to look awful for it”. My co workers genuinely believe there’s a media bias against Israel and the IDF right now.
fememeist Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Mezik said: I’m so disappointed in Canada. Last night there was a rally in support of Palestine, and all my co workers could say was “Hamas bombed the hospital and the Israelis are being made to look awful for it”. My co workers genuinely believe there’s a media bias against Israel and the IDF right now. Of course there is. A common trait of right wing, apartheid/slavery supporters is self victimization and constant need to feel like their points aren’t being 100% validated even though Western media and powers have validated and propagated 99% of total media consumption of this conflict. 2
LadyFlopga Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, bunnyeyes said: Actual antisemitism is not acknowledging that the Israeli state injected long acting birth control without consent into Ethiopian Jewish women as a form of racialized population control against their own people. WTF?
Communion Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, chhalamars said: I just want to say that the left has exposed itself as antisemitic and apologists of terror groups. I want nothing to do with it. Enough. "People whose ideology makes them at odds with nationalist views rejecting my support for Israeli nationalism makes me realize the left hates Jewish people!" These types of circular arguments would be more respectable if people were forthright and didn't talk in coded language and said that they think ethno states are fine and view people opposed to a Jewish ethnostate as antisemitic. Are people opposed to Russian nationalist expansion Russophobic? Are people opposed to Albanian nationalist expansion via Greater Albania anti-Albanian? Just be forthright that you want to argue some people have a blood right ownership to land and persuade us to this crackpot theory. Convince.me why you think 2M Gazans deserve to die so that Israel remains ethnically pure. It would be antisemitic if I loved ethno stares and cheered on all ethno states except for a Jewish one. But that's not the case. You think it's inherently antisemitic to not make exceptions to being anti-nationalist for Judaism despite many Jewish people themselves not moving to Israel not agreeing with the philosophical premise of it as a state. Edited October 18, 2023 by Communion
Both Sides Now Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, Headlock said: Posting from a pseudo-moral high ground when you flat out admitted your inability to feel empathy towards Palestinians being slaughtered because of perceived homophobia is WILD. Thank you The intense need of some homosexuals to have a transactional benefit to opposing a genocide should be studied. 3
chhalamars Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, Bloo said: Literally how? You've been sleeping under a rock? Free Palestine protests with suastikas, universities students and staff saying borderline n@zi things, people tearing off posters of kidnapped jews, the left just sweeping last week's massacre of jews by hamas under the rug. It's all out. Nobody buys the "resistance" thing anymore. Hating jews is not resistance. 39 minutes ago, Headlock said: A right-wing troll doesn't want anything to do with the left? Shocker! I'm not a troll. You just disagree with my views. 6
Armani? Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, fememeist said: I wonder how some of yall would’ve been if ATRL was around the time of Jim Crow and the Black Panther party. Probably more or less the same. "If the Black people weren't so hostile & doing riots maybe the government would give them their civil rights" Some ATRLer 8
Headlock Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, chhalamars said: I'm not a troll. Mhm 2
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted October 18, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, chhalamars said: the left just sweeping last week's massacre of jews by hamas under the rug. This never happened. The Left was able to acknowledge the attack by Hamas on Israel and its brutality while also highlighting that this is the result of an oppressive occupation which has disproportionally harmed Palestinians. 11
bunnyeyes Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, LadyFlopga said: WTF? Quote After five years of denials, Israeli government officials have admitted to targeting Ethiopian Jewish immigrant women with long-acting contraceptive injections without their consent. Most of the women were either coerced into accepting the Depo Provera injections while living in Israeli-run transit camps in Ethiopia, or were unaware that the injections produced temporary sterilization. The Depo Provera scandal takes place against the background of the Israeli government pro-natalist policies that provide incentives for other (fairer) Jewish women to produce more children, in part as a demographic race with Palestinians. Unfortunately, this contradictory approach to reproductive policy is in keeping with the social and ethnic stratification of Israeli society. In The Chosen Body (2002), Meira Weiss describes Israeli “body politics” that put white Ashkenazi (European Jewish) male bodies at the top of the social hierarchy. In descending order, they are followed by Mizrahi (Middle Eastern Jews), and then by Ethiopian Jews. Only Israeli Arabs, non-Jewish immigrants, and Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories rank lower. https://www.geneticsandsociety.org/biopolitical-times/israel-admits-targeting-ethiopian-jews-compulsory-contraception 1
Le Grande Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 Was reading one of Croatia's biggest news outlets about the bombing and I was actually surprised how their bias changed against Israel in a span of a week. They wrote something in the vein of "Hamas said that Israel did it and they had not changed their viewpoint, meanwhile, we are bringing you now the 8th version coming from Israel in the last 24 hours. It's tough to pick a side." Nice to see this tbh. 5
Both Sides Now Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 We can all throw sh*t about the worst of the “pro-“ or “anti-“ side. A 6 year old Palestinian-American boy was murdered by a “pro-Israel” white man ffs. Devolving into “you can’t criticise Israel because some people are Nazis” is plainly intellectually dishonest. You can be against apartheid and against anti-Semitism. Educate yourself on Jewish anti-apartheid activists like Denis Goldberg. 1
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