Communion Posted January 19 Posted January 19 2 hours ago, ZIVERT said: This is actually fake news. While it is indeed classless to make comparisons between deaths (as you have done before, prompting the response you received from me in September), you should know by now that the siege of Mariupol City alone resulted in the death of ~25,000 civilians due to indiscriminate bombing and shooting from Russian invaders. Civilian deaths, no matter the amount, are a tragedy. Ukraine recognizes Palestinian sovereignty. Ukraine has a Palestinian embassy in Kyiv. Ukraine has a history of abstaining from supporting Israel in UN votes due to its own history with occupation. And yet all Ukrainians receive in return from so-called “pro-Palestine activists” (most of which aren’t Palestinians, but agitators far removed from either conflict) is downplaying, denialism, and even outright celebration and legitimization of Russian aggression. Of course, solidarity is not supposed to be transactional, but it’s interesting how the QuranAnon camp on ATRL continues to use the plight of Ukrainians as some sort of “gotcha” moment against me (the obsession ) and then want to clutch their pearls when they receive the same energy. As I’ve stated from the beginning, there is no excuse for the continued occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, or the belligerent rhetoric from the fascist Israeli government towards Palestine and Palestinians. Just as there is no excuse for the raping, murdering, beheading, and kidnapping of Israeli and foreign civilians by Hamas. My opinion hasn’t changed. You can say I’m a bad person if you wish - you’re entitled to think so, as how you perceive my view of the conflict (not just the war) doesn’t necessarily align with your lived reality. That’s valid. I don’t have a personal issue with you - you have skin in the game as a Palestinian citizen of Israel. I even remember having this conversation with you a year ago, before the above comment you referenced. But I will not allow your pain to be weaponized as a tool to delegitimize my pain, by people who are unrelated to either conflict. I realize that I’ve done this to you, and whether it was done out of frustration or not, it isn’t fair. I apologize for the inflammatory comments I’ve directed at you. You continue to spread pro-Israel propaganda despite these crocodile tears and claims of remorse. Just log off. Everyone here knows your intent and you should be embarrassed. 2
Communion Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) I'm sorry to double post, but like...even when claiming to not be a fascist, the racist dog whistles can't help but pour into the language. Israelis simply "occupy" or spread "rhetoric" while Palestinians "behead and rape" despite the lack of criminal evidence of either of these things occurring. Why can't one bring themselves to even just say "violent death inflicted on both sides" if you were someone with the shaky morality to suggest there are equal sides here? You clearly think this conflict is assymetrical but in a way that favors Israel. Wanna know who gets beheaded? Palestinian children when mauled by rockets. Wanna know who gets raped? Palestinian youth routinely while kidnapped and held captive in Israeli jails. In a big attempt to swear one is impartial, they tell on themselves that they don't believe objectively reality and the horrors that unfold against the "savage" Palestinians at the hands of the Israelis who they view as "civil". Edited January 19 by Communion 1 7
Mean Trees Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Not people crying about this thread being ''Anti-West'' when they've never said a word out of line in support of The West and its criminal aggression across the globe. 3
pisuke Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Maybe if he dies the US will have a chance for a decent Democrat candidate? 9 2 2
Specter Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) Literally every time he speaks: Edited January 20 by Phantom 2 2
Lil' Oz Posted January 20 Posted January 20 The more i see of this man, the more i realize that he is no different than trump. This is just a facade. 8 3
Varrock Posted January 20 Posted January 20 If you have a brain of any sort, you will understand that a two state solution will never work nor happen, especially after Oct 7. 1
Popular Post Zefierce Posted January 20 Popular Post Posted January 20 14 minutes ago, Lil' Oz said: The more i see of this man, the more i realize that he is no different than trump. This is just a facade. He is the embodiment of 23 2
woohoo Posted January 20 Posted January 20 12 minutes ago, Lil' Oz said: The more i see of this man, the more i realize that he is no different than trump. This is just a facade. People need to realize it’s too religious governments making their innocent citizens suffer for their little religious centuries long battle. They need to find people who aren’t religious and put them in power to work things out. Religious people just aren’t smart enough and too emotional to reach a civilized resolution. Anyone slaughtering each other over old fictional story books is so 1800 and barbaric. Almost primitive and animalistic. 6 1
woohoo Posted January 20 Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, Varrock said: If you have a brain of any sort, you will understand that a two state solution will never work nor happen, especially after Oct 7. Exactly as long as they have “sacred” texts to beat against their hands it’ll never end. Religion is truly the root of most evil. 2 2
heckinglovato Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Fake news You're just QuranAnon Ukraine actually supports Palestine Israelis occupy while Palestinians rape and murder You're Palestinian but I will not let your pain delegitimize mine in a thread on Israel-Palestine And finally, I apologize for my inflammatory remarks 2 1
Archetype Posted January 20 Posted January 20 What if he’s doing this because he wants to lose the election on purpose? Bc that would make sense! This is how you lose
wehan6 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 38 minutes ago, pisuke said: Maybe if he dies the US will have a chance for a decent Democrat candidate? lmfao
Bosque Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) Quote I asked POTUS if a two-state solution was impossible as long as Netanyahu was in power. He said “No” and that “there are a number of types of two state solutions.” Is anyone going to point out what's actually incorrect about his statement? There have been literally many dozens of solutions discussed over the years, including at least 10 different scenario for 2-state-solutions over the years. So what exactly is wrong about what he said outside of "hurr durr Biden bad"? Edited January 20 by Dephira 3 1
jadeabove Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Girl, he could just avoid commenting, instead he chooses to say these stupid things. 1
Illuminati Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Zefierce said: He is the embodiment of The implication in lazy memes like this being that black lives actually don't matter because otherwise they're the same? The actual meme here is perhaps the Soapbox logo from a facebook page owned by Russian state media. I think they need a third plane for that one. Edited January 20 by Illuminati 3 1
Trent W Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Illuminati said: The implication in lazy memes like this being that black lives actually don't matter because otherwise they're the same? I seriously wonder what is your thought process into concluding that? The meme is a perfect representation of the Biden admin Edited January 20 by Trent W
pisuke Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Some here defend Biden like they would defend their fave... 1
Zefierce Posted January 20 Posted January 20 12 minutes ago, Illuminati said: The implication in lazy memes like this being that black lives actually don't matter because otherwise they're the same? The actual meme here is perhaps the Soapbox logo from a facebook page owned by Russian state media. I think they need a third plane for that one. The implication is that Biden pretends he's progressive and a supporter of human rights when his actions show otherwise. He's just like the republicans but more of a hypocrite - a wolf in sheep's clothing. 5 1
Danny789 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Varrock said: If you have a brain of any sort, you will understand that a two state solution will never work nor happen, especially after Oct 7. Well anyone with intelligence will understand that what caused the horrible attacks is the lack of a two state solution.
Communion Posted January 20 Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Dephira said: Is anyone going to point out what's actually incorrect about his statement? IDK, you tell me.
VioletsandRoses Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I used to be a Zionist but these past few months have been sad. All the posts I’m seeing omg. Both are native to Israel and it’s sad to see them fight their own people. People should be educated more on the situation. 1
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