Riot Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said: I’ve never been so disgusted in some of our Western leaders. The spineless washing of hands of 2.2 million lives. If Europe faces another refugee crisis caused by this ethnic cleansing it will be the downfall of the EU. Ursula WAKE UP you stupid *****. Israel needs a Good Friday Agreement NOW but they will never do it if dumb-**** Western powers keep supporting their war crimes. The fact that this war will probably cause another surge of refugees in Europe and Ursula is still supporting it is crazy
Cloröx Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shelter said: It’s going to happen, isn’t it? Israel is baiting Syria right now, they are bombing its international airport for days. They clearly wanna spread the conflict across the region for sure.
Nova_23 Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Does anyone know what the situation in Gaza is like right now? I feel like updates have become scarce lately which makes me feel so uneasy about the atrocities going on that we aren’t seeing. 1
airplane Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nova_23 said: Does anyone know what the situation in Gaza is like right now? I feel like updates have become scarce lately which makes me feel so uneasy about the atrocities going on that we aren’t seeing. snapmaps still works
Letemtalk Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 2 hours ago, sunbathinganimal said: how are residents of Gaza even supposed to see this without power or internet The warning from the IDF isn't for the people of Gaza, it's for western leaders so they can say "shame about the tens of thousands killed, but they were warned". 11
Brunette Ambition Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Israels government needs to be stopped
mystery Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 I can't believe the world is really going to sit back and watch this happen.
Rigalo Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Can America wake up? I want to hurl watching US media cover this like Israel has any right doing what they are. Everyone is THAT STUPID??
Nova_23 Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Aristotle said: Iran and SA should help with the refugees. Palestinians shouldn’t become refugees. That is their home. Iran and SA and other countries around the world quite frankly should help support these people in their fight to not only get their land/homes back but also help rebuild it into the beautiful place it is. 10
Both Sides Now Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Shelter said: It’s going to happen, isn’t it? 53 minutes ago, Riot said: The fact that this war will probably cause another surge of refugees in Europe and Ursula is still supporting it is crazy Gaza is already one of the mostly densely population places on Earth. 2.2M people squeezed into a strip that is the length of a marathon. Now Israel wants to reduce half of it to rubble. Where will these people go? Egypt won’t take them. Israel won’t allow them passage to the West Bank by their own invention. So the only passage is boats to Europe. What will Ursula say when we start seeing the bodies of children washing ashore Italy and Greece? This was Israel had every right to defend itself? It’s a **** show. Edited October 15, 2023 by Both Sides Now 3
Nova_23 Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) The urge to make Palestinians into refugees so quickly and just telling them to go to Egypt or have Iran/SA help “the refugees” is very troubling in my opinion and once again highlights that Israel will now use this as an opportunity to create another Nakba. It’s literally history repeating itself. The same talking points from 1948 and just telling Palestinians to leave like it’s not big deal. Without actually holding the oppressor accountable for what’s happening. It’s all very troubling. And it’s why most Palestinians won’t leave. Palestinians were fooled once and were never allowed to return to their homes. Edited October 15, 2023 by Nova_23 8
Communion Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Archetype said: I mean yes, the Israeli govt is also the main problem, but there is no solution to be had by saying "the Israeli govt needs to stop". Yes, they do need to stop, but they won't, and there is nothing severe enough that Western nations will do to stop them. We need to acknowledge this violence will only end once Hamas is destroyed or weakened to the point that Israel deems them to not be a threat, so back to my point, weakening Hamas is going to be one of the most effective ways to end the war. The Israeli govt does not care at all what the international community thinks of it at this point and our governments will abhorrently continue to support their violence. "Yes, Israel is the source of violence and will likely continue ravaging the Palestinian people in their goal of a pure ethno-state, but no one can stop them so we need to accept them as a permanent fixture and work on appeasing them to get them to stop so the Palestinians need to make some concessions?" Reread that and ask yourself why any Palestinian would denigrate themselves to live under the boot of Zionism instead of committing themselves to the mission of destroying the Israeli state, a force that people keep acknowledging wants them dead and has a right to? "Destroy Hamas," "eradicate Hamas," "wipe out Hamas." These things don't mean anything. People who say them can't tell you what actions they actually think would achieve such. Israel does not differentiate between men over the age of 18 and actual Hamas fighters in Gaza. Look at news reports Western reporters repeat Israel figures that "1300 Hamas militants have died". So somehow Israel has killed 700 Palestinain children and dozens of UN workers but magically no adult women? No civilian men? All just Hamas? The lie perpetuated is to hide that "destroy Hamas" really just means to collectively punish Gazans to never pursue or consider violent resistance to occupation ever again. Edited October 15, 2023 by Communion 5 7
Popular Post Nova_23 Posted October 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) My grandfather on my mother’s side was kicked out of his home in Jaffa in 1948. His family became refugees in Lebanon and were never allowed to return again. My grandfather died still talking about the day when he’d be able to return to his home. Stop telling Palestinians to leave. Stop telling neighboring countries to take refugees in as if Palestinians are just animals to be passed along. How about start telling Israel to stop its war crimes, to stop its illegal settlements and illegal occupation, it’s racism towards Palestinians. Israel treats Palestinians like sub-class citizens. Their own government officials call Palestinians animals and talk about “flattening in Gaza.” Israel needs to be held accountable for the destruction they’ve caused to Palestinian lives not just today but the lives they’ve destroyed in the past as well. They took their homes, land, destroyed their way of life, and are now just trying to completely erase them all together. I feel like I am living in some crazy world where there are people who actually feel comfortable going to sleep at night all while justifying a genocide. Edited October 15, 2023 by Nova_23 9 6
ClashAndBurn Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 46 minutes ago, Letemtalk said: The warning from the IDF isn't for the people of Gaza, it's for western leaders so they can say "shame about the tens of thousands killed, but they were warned". Exactly. They don't even have internet access, so these warnings are absolutely not for them. It's for clearing the West's conscience as they slowly start to get anxious seeing how much worse things are about to get than even they were expecting, even with all the evidence laid out before them that this was what would be happening. 3
Cloröx Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Israel is paying cybertroopers to promote propaganda and false news 3 2
Cloröx Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 He's probably one of the worst sc*m, not a surprise that he has zero sympathy https://web.archive.org/web/20190325150422/https://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2002/07/25/enemy-civilian-casualties-ok-by-me-n1391583 2
sillycilla Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) He’s saying this in front of the human rights logo. I know he was “joking” but this kind of stuff is purposeful. We just keep being manipulated by images and empty words. The western world and media is being intentionally obtuse. It’s so frustrating how they aren’t even remotely reporting the situation accurately. If I feel frustrated and helpless, I can’t begin to imagine what the Palestinians are feeling right now. There’s no hope for humanity when people have to wonder if they need to pick a side on genocide. Edited October 15, 2023 by sillycilla
airplane Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Biden and Obama are so evil… i don’t understand how they sleep at night 4
Popular Post sillycilla Posted October 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 15, 2023 Another thing the media is purposefully ignoring and not reporting are the top newspapers in Israel calling for Netanyahu to go. They blamed him for the attack too. Yesterday Israelis protested against him calling him a murderer and apparently he’s losing support. The media is making it appear as if he has all this popularity and support which is not 100% accurate nor the full story. No context whatsoever. 7 12
sillycilla Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Cloröx said: Israel is paying cybertroopers to promote propaganda and false news Frustrating 1
ClashAndBurn Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, sillycilla said: He’s saying this in front of the human rights logo. I know he was “joking” but this kind of stuff is purposeful. We just keep being manipulated by images and empty words. The western world and media is being intentionally obtuse. It’s so frustrating how they aren’t even remotely reporting the situation accurately. If I feel frustrated and helpless, I can’t begin to imagine what the Palestinians are feeling right now. There’s no hope for humanity when people have to wonder if they need to pick a side on genocide. Yeah, no. He definitely wasn't joking. He said that with his whole chest and then pretended that he still couldn't hear. 5
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