Cloröx Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 I would be super shocked if Israel agrees with this 6
illia Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 That user is so transparent with their dupe lmao 2
airplane Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 The few users who have been lurking and watching the massacre unfold but only come in here to comment some zionist bullshit and leave.. so transparent.
Gaia Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 I visited family yesterday and this issue came up. The sentiment was literally “Islam is very Anti-US but an Islamic population wants the US’ help? You don’t ask help from your enemies” Yeah, I don’t see the US perception changing anytime soon as a general public.
brazil Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Cloröx said: I would be super shocked if Israel agrees with this They would never and have never, and thats what international law dictates should happen. Israel is the country refusing to accept these terms and continuing the war despite many trying to place blame on Palestinians. 1 1
Nova_23 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Gaia said: I visited family yesterday and this issue came up. The sentiment was literally “Islam is very Anti-US but an Islamic population wants the US’ help? You don’t ask help from your enemies” Yeah, I don’t see the US perception changing anytime soon as a general public. the problem is that the US media has brainwashed people into thinking Middle East = Islam. Palestinians aren’t all muslims. There’s a large population of them who are Christian and some who don’t believe in any religion at all. Just like all of the middle east isn’t muslim and that a large portion of Muslims actually don’t live in the middle east at all. It all starts with media consumption and how things are portrayed. Edited October 14, 2023 by Nova_23
Domination Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 51 minutes ago, Nova_23 said: This video is blatantly misleading at certain parts. Palestine was never recognized as a state before 1948 and prior to any conception of Israel, there was little in the way of a singular Palestinian identity.
Cloröx Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 It's pretty clear that Israel wanna initiate Nakba 3.0. And US definitely supporting this idea 1
sillycilla Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nova_23 said: It’s actually sad that we as a society sat in history classes on our moral high ground acting like we would never allow such acts like apartheid and holocaust to happen again. Yet it’s in our faces every single day and people fall for the propaganda every single time. Malcolm X was right when he said “ we should be careful because the media will have you hating the oppressed and loving the oppressor”… this isn’t about Jewish people, it’s about an OCCUPATION. Edited October 14, 2023 by sillycilla 3
sillycilla Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 I don’t like Joe Rogan but this interview form a couple of years ago.. wow 1
sillycilla Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Domination said: This video is blatantly misleading at certain parts. Palestine was never recognized as a state before 1948 and prior to any conception of Israel, there was little in the way of a singular Palestinian identity. They had their own currency called the Palestine pound. Regardless of what empire was over them they were always there on their homeland. Edited October 14, 2023 by sillycilla 4
Popular Post Scars Posted October 14, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nova_23 said: A colonialist settler-state that bases it's existence on ethnonationalism will always be at odds with racial equity. No ifs, ands, or buts. It's important to note that even jewish ethnic minorities struggled deeply throughout Israel's history. During the foundation of the Israel regime, Mizrahi Jews struggled with limited housing and job opportunities and faced racial abuse from many Ashkenazi settlers. Ethiopian Jews living in Israel are continuously vocal about being treated as "not jewish enough" by other jewish israelis, living under systematically racism and facing racial abuse on everyday life there. Last decade, many Ethiopian immigrant women came together to share that they were systematically being injected contraceptive shots without their consent and without being told about long side-effects. Some of these women have told they're were made to believe they were given flu shots. When there were protests against it, ethiopians were met with police violence. The birth rate among Ethiopian immigrants halved in a decade, but Israel's governement denies all of it to this day. I could go on all day, that's only the tip of the iceberg. I'm aware that sadly the horror faced by Palestinians will never really shape the views of many westeners on the occupation because "arabs bad!! they deserve it!!", but this portrayal of Israel as a safe haven for all citizens is ahistorical and based on propaganda. "-but but you're queer!!! omg, you'd be arrested in Gaza!! How dare you criticize Israel? Tel Aviv mayor literally took pictures with Drag Queens the other day!!!" Whenever Zionists try to appeal to western liberals, hoping they'll be able to particularly resonate with the ones that can't see the world beyond western identity politics, they often seem to believe there isn't much more to human rights other than...gay pride events, but queer people are culturally diverse and our identites are nuanced. Israel has a complete disregard to the lives of non-white people/racialized communities living outside and inside of it's borders. Edited October 14, 2023 by Scars 15 2 1
Shelter Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 Israel government have to be fuming over the coverage Palestine is getting. All the protests are insane too. 3
Nova_23 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 Everyone needs to have this energy when calling out the media/government for spreading their lies. 1 3
Anthinos Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 What lies? We all saw what happened in Israel. Some people on this forum attack Israel for what they're doing but you have no problem telling people from Israel that they should leave Israel and the region. Where should they go? Israel is their home. You need to accept that Israel is here to stay. I also find it funny that it's people from the USA attacking Israel. Look at your own history. Israel has the same right to exist as the USA. What needs to leave the region is the Hamas. The Hamas doesn't care about Palestinians. They don't care about peace. They only care about their ideology. 11
DAP Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Harrier said: To be fair I believe only the United States actually sends direct military aid to Israel, the rest of us are just disgusting in our moral support for their current actions Correct me if I'm wrong members who are more knowledgeble Germany, France and the UK (and Italy at one point) do as well.
family.guy123 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 If you’re arguing about whether or not babies were beheaded, you’ve lost the plot.
Nova_23 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Anthinos said: What lies? We all saw what happened in Israel. Some people on this forum attack Israel for what they're doing but you have no problem telling people from Israel that they should leave Israel and the region. Where should they go? Israel is their home. You need to accept that Israel is here to stay. I also find it funny that it's people from the USA attacking Israel. Look at your own history. Israel has the same right to exist as the USA. What needs to leave the region is the Hamas. The Hamas doesn't care about Palestinians. They don't care about peace. They only care about their ideology. The lies are the beheaded babies that they media tried to spread. Israel is a propaganda machine no different than the US. Israeli’s displaced Palestinians 75 years ago. It’s not their home. That’s why most people don’t support them. That’s why the world is in protest of their actions. We aren’t stupid and we won’t be silenced anymore. 75 years of oppression. 75 years of illegal settlements, oppression and occupation. Palestine belongs to the Palestinians. https://www.un.org/unispal/about-the-nakba/ Edited October 14, 2023 by Nova_23 4
airplane Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: If you’re arguing about whether or not babies were beheaded, you’ve lost the plot. You’ve been stuck onto that one headline but actively choose to ignore the mass suffering in Gaza right now where 750+ children have been killed. Explain why you don’t care about them? Why is your activism selective? Edited October 14, 2023 by airplane 13
family.guy123 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 Actually no, you’ve become part of the plot that’s been designed for you.
family.guy123 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 1 minute ago, airplane said: You’ve been stuck onto that one headline but actively choose to ignore the mass suffering in Gaza right now where 750+ children have been killed. Explain why you don’t care about them? Why is your activism selective? You’re not paying attention. I’m saying the opposite of what you think I am
airplane Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 1 minute ago, family.guy123 said: Actually no, you’ve become part of the plot that’s been designed for you. The self projection is crazy. When you don’t condemn the innocent suffering on both sides but continue pushing one-sided rhetoric, it’s safe to assume that you’re an extremist which in your case would make you a zionist. 6
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