AvadaKedavra Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, Parallel said: At least in the US, regional Mexican music completely replaced them. Bad Bunny’s new album is already below Peso Pluma’s months old one on the BB200. And Bad Bunny’s last album was a 10+ #1 smash. The US was huge part of Bad Bunny’s success but they’ve moved on from him This sudden increase of Mexican Music in the last years honestly is something i love so much. As a Colombian i grew up with mexican culture and i was sad how their industry was losing power. Im glad mexico is takin over the latino industry again My mexican sistrens are so nice and cute and sweet i also love mexican food. Latinoamerica without mexico wouldnt be the same.
Parallel Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 minute ago, AvadaKedavra said: This sudden increase of Mexican Music in the last years honestly is something i love so much. As a Colombian i grew up with mexican culture and i was sad how their industry was losing power. Im glad mexico is takin over the latino industry again My mexican sistrens are so nice and cute and sweet i also love mexican food. Latinoamerica without mexico wouldnt be the same. Yes the Colombians and Puerto Ricans have been dominating for years, Mexicans finally fought back poor Argentina, their biggest global breakout the past decade was Nathy Peluso 1
Relampago. Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, AvadaKedavra said: Bad Bunny worst mistake was dating kendall jenner (Kardashians have a bad reputation here) and the cellphone thing We latinos have a thing for humble artists. So many of my friends think he's a sellout now and fame-wealth changed 100% The reason why he was so huge at first is cause he was seen as someone "del pueblo" "uno de nosotros" "otro del barrio" I dont know how he will be able to recover his old titanic fame. He needs great PR. To win the Latin GP back Maluma and Jbalvin are too lazy and Balvin is mean as ****. He ruined himself. I think Rawr alejandro reputation was damaged by the rosalia thing and cheating allegations Now Peso Pluma is the it guy but i wonder if his appeal will last. I don’t think Benito will ever reach UVST heights again, but Latinos would sooner propel him back to fame than allow Karol G or Rosalia to become the biggest latin artists. Shakira is really the only female latin artist that has reached that level of fame worldwide and I don’t really see it for Karol, who is the closest contender of the current girls. Rosalia is too avant garde. Latinos swap their fave female artists out like clockwork nowadays too. Becky G, Natti Natasha, Anitta.. all kinda came and went. Given these girls never had sold out concerts in the US like Karol or headlines like Rosalia, but idk. Also let’s be clear that Benito still has a sold out tour and 2 hits (Monaco, Perro Negro) from this era so it’s not like it’s a total bomb. J Balvin was OVER after the Perra controversy and never recovered really. Maluma faded FAST after Hawaii. BB is still showing some staying power, I think he can recover especially now that he’s broken up with Kendall. The random viral twerking tweets from 2 years ago becoming popular again seems like a first good sign.
BIAATCH Posted January 8 Posted January 8 I mean Bad Bunny, Feid, Quevedo, Myke Towers & Peso Pluma(he is doing some reggaeton too) smashed last year, so I guess they are still staying.
Blue. Posted January 8 Posted January 8 8 hours ago, Relampago. said: Bad Bunny’s fame and success could get cut in half and he’d still be bigger than Karol and Rosalía Talent and quality-wise though, they are! Bad Bunny and Karol G are on the same level of talent. They are OK, but the English media has picked them as their Latinx pets just to show that they care about Latin acts, while ignoring more talented ones with more artistic outputs. Rosalia is not Latina herself, but she did a better reggaeton reinvention than any current Latin artist. I think you can include her in the discussion as she sings in Spanish but to be fair to her, she is an artistic genius ages ahead of Karol, Benito and 90% of the ww music scene.
ReneighIsHere Posted January 8 Posted January 8 7 hours ago, Parallel said: Yes the Colombians and Puerto Ricans have been dominating for years, Mexicans finally fought back poor Argentina, their biggest global breakout the past decade was Nathy Peluso argentina has bizarrap and the best latin popstars (emilia and tini).. nathy peluso was mother, her debut album is SO GOOD. But yeah there hasn't really been a global breakout
Blue. Posted January 8 Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, ReneighIsHere said: argentina has bizarrap and the best latin popstars (emilia and tini).. nathy peluso was mother, her debut album is SO GOOD. But yeah there hasn't really been a global breakout Emilia is coming with her Charlie XCX collab. Tini had a big budget latin album ready but it was shelved as she’s aiming to do something more introspective first. 1
Outlaws Posted January 8 Posted January 8 9 hours ago, Karla Cabello said: not really but female reggaeton has been gaining a lot of traction Basically.
ReneighIsHere Posted January 8 Posted January 8 13 minutes ago, Blue. said: Emilia is coming with her Charlie XCX collab. Tini had a big budget latin album ready but it was shelved as she’s aiming to do something more introspective first. i wanted emilia to conquer the latin/spanish market first.. exclusive is smashing in argentina but it has potential to do well in other countries as well, maybe a remix could help. No se ve and La original are doing well in spain too but she's not solidified there yet i fear
Cloudy Posted January 8 Posted January 8 They kind of are. Right now Bad Bunny is the only true powerhouse. Nobody seems to have broken out, there's no more J.Balvin's or Maluma's and unfortunately Manuel Turiza hasn't managed to happen because of the lack of quality (and I hate to say it charisma). Ozuna is always a hit or miss and Rauw seems to have kind of vanished and lost a lot of relevancy for some reason 2
Relampago. Posted January 8 Posted January 8 6 hours ago, Blue. said: Bad Bunny and Karol G are on the same level of talent. They are OK, but the English media has picked them as their Latinx pets just to show that they care about Latin acts, while ignoring more talented ones with more artistic outputs. Rosalia is not Latina herself, but she did a better reggaeton reinvention than any current Latin artist. I think you can include her in the discussion as she sings in Spanish but to be fair to her, she is an artistic genius ages ahead of Karol, Benito and 90% of the ww music scene. To be fair, Rosalía is artistically ahead of 99% of artists worldwide But yes, I agree. Despechá is a better mainstream hit than pretty much most recent Reggaeton hits.
AvadaKedavra Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 Rosalia is honestly the best artist from the spanish world in years (so experimental and innovative) but there's something she lacks Her lyrics are so basic and mid. This is one of the reasons why "Shakira artistic peak" will always be superior to "Rosalia peak" Rosalia needs songwriting classes 1
unclefloprry Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Me reading this thread while Bad Bunny has the most streamed album daily on Spotify, Feid has the most popular reggaeton song currently, and Peso Pluma was the biggest new artist last year (with a 50/50 regional and urban). I mean, female artists are doing great, but they are miles away from reaching male success in urban music. They're just there having cute hits. Karol G, Shakira and Rosalía released several songs after their last real hit and they flopped but nobody say anything. It took Anitta almost 2 years to get another hit but nobody say anything. Tini, Emilia, María Becerra, Danna Paola, Lali, Natti Natasha, Becky G have been releasing flop after flop after flop or songs that only became hits in their countries but nobody say anything. And no one calls them "flops" or that they are "underperformig" or that they are fading because reggaeton music is like that. Female artists gets a big hit after a lot of flops, it can take months or years... and the same applies to male artists. We already saw it with Manuel Turizo.
unclefloprry Posted January 8 Posted January 8 17 hours ago, AvadaKedavra said: I dont know how he will be able to recover his old titanic fame. He needs great PR. To win the Latin GP back Maluma and Jbalvin are too lazy and Balvin is mean as ****. He ruined himself. I think Rawr alejandro reputation was damaged by the rosalia thing and cheating allegations Bad Bunny will never fade, even his "flop" era would be considered HUGE among female artists. NSLQVAPM is doing better than Mañana Sera Bonito on the charts and streaming platforms. Karol was lucky that TQG became a huge hit because that album was DOOMED. He has the 4th most popular Latin song right now on Spotify and he's not even trying. People tried HARD... HARD to cancel him last year and all he need to do was jump on the trends (1X100to), collaborate with the "most popular" reggaeton artists of the moment (FEID) or simply jump into the nostalgia wagon (return to trap/reggaeton) His marketing team is amazing, his PR is amazing... they just can't. 16 hours ago, Parallel said: when’s the last time a Bad Bunny song climbed to #1 Last year he has 3 #1s and was the most streamed latin artist of the year
GeeDuval Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Well is about time We get a good looking one WITH ACTUAL TALENT = FEID Rauw had some bangers 2022-23 but yes the whole Rosalia mess kind of backfiring. He’s confirmed like 3 times already is just rumors but she hasn’t confirmed nor Denied these cheating rumors. I think 2024 is going to be another year dominated by females both Latin music and English markets. Here for it
vuelve88 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Yes. 2023 was a huge year for Shakira, Taylor, and Karol G.
Joyride Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Maria Becerra, Kali Uchis, Karol G, Anitta world domination, new world order
DR0GO Posted January 8 Posted January 8 19 hours ago, AvadaKedavra said: Bad Bunny worst mistake was dating kendall jenner (Kardashians have a bad reputation here) and the cellphone thing We latinos have a thing for humble artists. So many of my friends think he's a sellout now and fame-wealth changed 100% The reason why he was so huge at first is cause he was seen as someone "del pueblo" "uno de nosotros" "otro del barrio" I dont know how he will be able to recover his old titanic fame. He needs great PR. To win the Latin GP back Maluma and Jbalvin are too lazy and Balvin is mean as ****. He ruined himself. I think Rawr alejandro reputation was damaged by the rosalia thing and cheating allegations Now Peso Pluma is the it guy but i wonder if his appeal will last. I haven't kept up with J Balvin like that, but what did he do exactly that caused people to stop supporting him?
alestevens Posted January 8 Posted January 8 Even when they're fading, latin males acts continue having a much easier time than female acts so not really. Karol and Shakira are the only ones you could genuinely place on that level!
alestevens Posted January 8 Posted January 8 2 hours ago, unclefloprry said: Me reading this thread while Bad Bunny has the most streamed album daily on Spotify, Feid has the most popular reggaeton song currently, and Peso Pluma was the biggest new artist last year (with a 50/50 regional and urban). I mean, female artists are doing great, but they are miles away from reaching male success in urban music. They're just there having cute hits. Karol G, Shakira and Rosalía released several songs after their last real hit and they flopped but nobody say anything. It took Anitta almost 2 years to get another hit but nobody say anything. Tini, Emilia, María Becerra, Danna Paola, Lali, Natti Natasha, Becky G have been releasing flop after flop after flop or songs that only became hits in their countries but nobody say anything. And no one calls them "flops" or that they are "underperformig" or that they are fading because reggaeton music is like that. Female artists gets a big hit after a lot of flops, it can take months or years... and the same applies to male artists. We already saw it with Manuel Turizo. Im not gonna comment on the rest, but TINI had several hits and unlike most acts, she has a reputation as a great live performer which helped her sell out arenas and stadiums accross Latin America and Spain, even in places where acts with more hits cannot do so. That's something she'll always have in her favor. These reggaetoneros will never be able to stand in there and just sing a Whitney Houston song:
oceans Posted January 8 Posted January 8 2 hours ago, unclefloprry said: Karol was lucky that TQG became a huge hit because that album was DOOMED. now what is this lie
HEAVYONIT Posted January 8 Posted January 8 I think the tide is definitely shifting. Women are dominating and the only other massive male I can think of is Bad Bunny and even then, let’s be real… BB wouldn’t have been able to make it famous with his sexuality antics like 10 years ago, so I’d definitely consider him more of the progressive males contributing to that change (even though I don’t like his music).
GeeDuval Posted January 8 Posted January 8 33 minutes ago, DR0GO said: I haven't kept up with J Balvin like that, but what did he do exactly that caused people to stop supporting him? Fame got to his head, and Rene from Calle 13 ended him with his bizarrap diss.
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