barbiegrande Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Mariah is bigger and more iconic than both could ever be. Mariah is basically the Superman of singers. Her name is synonymous with music, not just pop music. Edited December 29, 2023 by barbiegrande 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAnti Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, barbiegrande said: Mariah is bigger and more iconic than both could ever be Wake up from whatever dream you are having 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklyndaddy Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Kylie Minogue I'm assuming you are not from the US lol Madonna is the biggest female pop act of all time arguably. She is MJ level in terms of the pantheon of pop. 20 years are being the main event. Mariah had a nice 10 or so years of high relevancy, max. Taylor will have a legacy, yes... but the legacy is very different. She is the hot thing at the moment and for years was just another pop girl with hits. Madonna is THE female pop blue print. Period. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Mariah is definitely one of the biggest female artists of all time. That can't be disputed. So what is the point of this thread then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisuke Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Yes, nobody else is bigger. I know reality is not as you wished, but it is the reality nonetheless. Sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbiegrande Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: She's literally on a sold out tour that ends with 5 sold out dates at the same place in Mexico. Most of her stops have multiple dates as well, specially outside of the USA. Her star power currently is probably just weaker than Taylor and Bey Of course all the gays over 60 within a 100 mile radius in any given city are showing up to fill stadiums for Madonna. Doesn’t mean she’s relevant. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, barbiegrande said: Of course all the gays over 60 within a 100 mile radius in any given city are showing up to fill stadiums for Madonna. Doesn’t mean she’s relevant. The Celebration Tour has already grossed more than EVERY single Mariah tour combined 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange22 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuanyu Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Yes she is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: Taylor started in 2006. So it's been 17 years, not 20 And of course certain Swifties forget about the ages when they first started. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 In fact: Mariah total tour gross according to UKMix: 282M adjusted for inflation Confessions Tour ALONE (which wasnt even her biggest tour mind you) adjusted for inflation: 282.6M If we also brought S&S and the MDNA Tour into it, it would even look WORSE. Nobody wanna see that lady live. Her global appeal is next to zero. Her name holds no weight in 2023 aside from Christmas 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenoftheclouds Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 23 minutes ago, GlamSlam said: Mte! I bet it's the same person who writes one star (hate) reviews on Amazon UK for Madonna's albums/movies. He's just as delusional about Kylie as the OP, and will use anyone to belittle Madonna, even if he doesn't care about the artists he compares her to. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AGVLR7WPM5LM2LKN44SZKSUBNCQA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_gw_btm?ie=UTF8 Like a Prayer: Hugely Overrated https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R1AC6AF6JU4XKQ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B007BWUJ60 The Immaculate Collection: A Karaoke Singer Who Got Lucky https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R2JW75HMU938OY/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000002LND Erotica: It Flopped for a Reason https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R1W144UEB0MV69/ref=cm_cr_srp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000002MFN Bedtime Stories: Forgotten for a Reason https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B000002MUW/ref=acr_search_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar American Life: Beth Orton on a Budget https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R3R357N4IBCZL0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00008Z0EX Hard Candy: All Aboard the Lightweight Urban Bandwagon https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R15LZYIK3OHMMY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B0015D3Z4O Confessions On A Dancefloor: Reductive Disco https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/RTZPEI7SJK5U6/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000BRBGO6 Celebration: A Mouthpiece for Talented Writers and Producers https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R17TDIL3CPXZ1F/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B002HNA95E Rebel Heart: Rebel Flop https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R2IKIVRTQI8ET?ref=pf_vv_at_pdctrvw_srp He even got himself a new username to write nonsense for Finally Enough Love: Sinking Further Into Irrelevancy https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R24VHS1L2LUYSH/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B09ZHFPB6V The Next Best Thing: Another Turkey for Madge https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/RAP6GM41B6BBP?ref=pf_vv_at_pdctrvw_srp Who's That Girl: Dreadful https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R233ZBZKPZRZPH/ref=cm_cr_srp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000DN6DCS Vogue: Reductive https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R2YMDMUM227NEO?ref=pf_vv_at_pdctrvw_srp The fact he uses "Reductive" against her should be a flashing red sign. lol He mentions Kylie a lot and thinks Impossible Princess was the blueprint for Ray of Light. Poor Beth Orton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevyy Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Mordecai said: Madonna was popular in the 80s when my parents were in their late teens. Fast forward 20 years and she was still popular in the 2000s when I was a kid. Very few artists have that kind of longevity. I don't think Mariah has had the global success that Madonna had Taylor... Swift Nobody had Madonna's global success... not even Madonna herself over the past 15 years or so. however, Mariah has this: All I want for Christmas is You Netherlands: 78 - 36 - 24 - 16 - 8 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Italy: 66 -24 - 9 - 2 - 2 - 1 - Germany: 68 - 25 - 12 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Hungary: 13 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Australia: 15 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 1 - New Zealand: 17 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 1 - Greece: 13 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Canada: 20 - 5 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - USA: 17 - 4 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - Switzerland: 29 - 15 - 6 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Austria: 23 - 11 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - Czech Republic: 52 - 12 - 2 - 1 - 1 - Norway: 21 - 12 - 7 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - Sweden: 51 - 22 - 8 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - Poland: 78 - 16 - 6 - 2 - 2 - 2 - Lithuania: 21 - 5 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 2 - Slovakia: 27 - 9 - 5 - 2 - 2 - Iceland: 15 - 15 - 11 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 2 - 3 - Denmark: 28 - 8 - 4 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 4 - United Kingdom: 40 - 28 - 16 - 6 - 2 - 3 - 3 - Finland: 27 - 12 - 16 - 11 - 3 - United Arab Emirates: 6 - 7 - 4 - Ireland: 38 - 24 - 18 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 4 - Singapore: 22 - 11 - 9 - 6 - Belgium (W): 44 - 14 - 8 - 7 - Belgium (F): 38 - 17 - 10 - 9 - France: 164 - 93 - 30 - 15 - 16 - 10 - Portugal: 142 - 114 - 62 - 39 - 11 - 12 - Japan Oricon: 42 (10,804) - 39 (10,971) - 16 - Ukraine: 62 - 49 - 24 - 17 - South Korea (Gaon): 193 - 94 - 70 - 42 - 27 - 20 - Spain: 70 - 21 - 24 - 18 - Nigeria: 86 - 35 - Merry Christmas Netherlands: 43 - 34 - 24 - 10 - 6 - 3 - 3 - 2 - Germany: 19 - 14 - 2 - Italy: 82 - 33 - 14 - 13 - 15 - 4 - Denmark: 27 - 15 - 8 - 6 - 7 - 8 - Norway: 32 - 12 - 9 - 8 - 8 - 6 - New Zealand: 36 - 27 - 24 - 6 - Lithuania: 35 - 14 - 10 - 9 - 6 - Iceland: 18 - 7 - 8 - 8 - 9 - 8 - 10 - Sweden: 38 - 14 - 8 - 10 - 12 - 9 - Canada: 71 - 47 - 31 - 14 - 9 - 10 - 9 - United States: 76 - 57 - 32 - 17 - 13 - 12 - 10 (52k)- Australia: 74 - 42 - 40 - 32 - 11 - Hungary: 35 - 16 - 23 - 17 - Finland: 42 - 50 - 34 - 18 - Poland: 87 - 50 - 24 - 55 - 25 - Belgium (W): 165 - 79 - 36 - 39 - 24 - Ireland: 91 - 41 - Portugal: 35 - 50 - 43 - Greece: 45 - 47 - 44 - Belgium (F): 200 - 105 - 90 - 59 - 47 - Austria: 56 - 71 - Switzerland: 79 - 65 - 79 - In 2023, Mariah has this. (only 50% of the countries have been updated in the past 7 days). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Christmas is now over people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenoftheclouds Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 No, Lucinda Williams is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevyy Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris said: Christmas is now over people. January 6th? That's still christmas for some people. <3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris said: Christmas is now over people. She doesnt even own that no more with the way Brenda has been tugging on her wig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, Love Again said: She doesnt even own that no more with the way Brenda has been tugging on her wig She had to do extra promo meanwhile Brena barely lifted a finger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The7thStranger Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Unless you were around in at least 1997, I don't want to hear it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narid Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 It’s Bebe Rhexa people. She’s bigger than Madonna and all that followed. No one has a chance compared with Bebe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevyy Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Love Again said: In fact: Mariah total tour gross according to UKMix: 282M adjusted for inflation Confessions Tour ALONE (which wasnt even her biggest tour mind you) adjusted for inflation: 282.6M If we also brought S&S and the MDNA Tour into it, it would even look WORSE. Nobody wanna see that lady live. Her global appeal is next to zero. Her name holds no weight in 2023 aside from Christmas It's over $300 million now. <3 Mariah performed half as many shows as Madonna. Mariah cannot dance or move her body herself. zero effort and still a touring magnet. <3 #4 biggest female touring act of November according to BB. December stats have not yet been released. <3 $30 million in touring revenue in 2023 alone. <3 (for 4 weeks of lipsyncing and standing like a stiff person). (And people still went to see that). Legendary. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prézli Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Bad Wolf said: Because your mom is probably like 80 years old. She's 60, thank you for asking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlamSlam Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I think people should refrain from arguing and give praise to each one of them instead. The OP has an agenda, so don't fall for it guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popboi. Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Girl Madonna is objectively bigger than Mariah, and Taylor isn't bigger yet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevyy Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Love Again said: She doesnt even own that no more with the way Brenda has been tugging on her wig All I want for Christmas is You Netherlands: 78 - 36 - 24 - 16 - 8 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Italy: 66 -24 - 9 - 2 - 2 - 1 - Germany: 68 - 25 - 12 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Hungary: 13 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Australia: 15 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 1 - New Zealand: 17 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 1 - Greece: 13 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Canada: 20 - 5 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - USA: 17 - 4 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - Switzerland: 29 - 15 - 6 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - Austria: 23 - 11 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - Czech Republic: 52 - 12 - 2 - 1 - 1 - Norway: 21 - 12 - 7 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - Sweden: 51 - 22 - 8 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - Poland: 78 - 16 - 6 - 2 - 2 - 2 - Lithuania: 21 - 5 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 2 - Slovakia: 27 - 9 - 5 - 2 - 2 - Iceland: 15 - 15 - 11 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 2 - 3 - Denmark: 28 - 8 - 4 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 4 - United Kingdom: 40 - 28 - 16 - 6 - 2 - 3 - 3 - Finland: 27 - 12 - 16 - 11 - 3 - United Arab Emirates: 6 - 7 - 4 - Ireland: 38 - 24 - 18 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 4 - Singapore: 22 - 11 - 9 - 6 - Belgium (W): 44 - 14 - 8 - 7 - Belgium (F): 38 - 17 - 10 - 9 - France: 164 - 93 - 30 - 15 - 16 - 10 - Portugal: 142 - 114 - 62 - 39 - 11 - 12 - Japan Oricon: 42 (10,804) - 39 (10,971) - 16 - Ukraine: 62 - 49 - 24 - 17 - South Korea (Gaon): 193 - 94 - 70 - 42 - 27 - 20 - Spain: 70 - 21 - 24 - 18 - Nigeria: 86 - 35 - + 26 days of being #1 on GLOBAL Spotify in December. Mariah has had the best selling holiday tune of 2023 and the second best selling overall holiday album of 2023. Merriest Xmas sold 650,000 units (and adding as some charts have not yet updated -> 700k here we come). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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