JaXXXon Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 I would call Britney a legend but then when I do a part of me thinks it's a bit inauthentic. Then again, what she accomplished and how humongous big she was when she peaked which quite honestly could only be rivaled by Lady Gaga and Adele in music HISTORY (didn't experience Madonna's peak though) I feel like not calling her one is a bit... immature? Britney causes more traction still than people who are relevant in music today.
Storm653 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 9:56 AM, ninetales said: I am not really into her music apart from maybe 3 songs but she is already a legend. Britney, Beyonce (certified legends) Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Taylor, Katy and Adele are also on their way to becoming "legends" too Eh....Aside from BOMT and Oops being sales giants, does Britney really have a strong case over the people you named aside from nostalgia? Rihanna is the best hitmaker of the 21st century based on worldwide singles sales. Gaga is multi-talented, had direct influence on the electropop wave, and is an acclaimed actress. Taylor is an acclaimed songwriter and the best selling female act of the 21st century. Adele dropped the best selling album of the 21st century with universal appeal and is an acclaimed vocalist. Don't get it twisted. Britney can dance and had a solid 99-04 run but I just don't see what really makes her a greater legend than the people you named aside from the time/era she blew up in. I say this as a mild Britney fan too.
Comedor Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) She’s a legend, but that’s mostly because she had a great team behind her, and she was willing to go with the schedule. She’s a well manufactured pop girl and that’s ok. Love her and wish her the best! Edited October 19, 2023 by Comedor 2
Rev8 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 14 hours ago, Storm653 said: Eh....Aside from BOMT and Oops being sales giants, does Britney really have a strong case over the people you named aside from nostalgia? Rihanna is the best hitmaker of the 21st century based on worldwide singles sales. Gaga is multi-talented, had direct influence on the electropop wave, and is an acclaimed actress. Taylor is an acclaimed songwriter and the best selling female act of the 21st century. Adele dropped the best selling album of the 21st century with universal appeal and is an acclaimed vocalist. Don't get it twisted. Britney can dance and had a solid 99-04 run but I just don't see what really makes her a greater legend than the people you named aside from the time/era she blew up in. I say this as a mild Britney fan too. Babe.. most of the examples you mentioned, are SALES (being the Top at something, at that) it's like Prince and Janet aren't legends because they weren't at the Top of some list or something and Surprised ATRLers still need to be told this, but: Success doesn't make a Legend. Especially when sales and acclaim can be bought and faked these days... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Britney is still getting cited as influence by artists (new artists at that). Still getting tributes. Still getting referenced for her iconic moments (which she has, since it's Hard to have) Her work has been positively revisited and applauded over the years. She has been constantly hailed for her performances online (which actually shows that people revere her) and by other acts/publications. Her not being the Best Selling Female, or having the Most Hits, or being the Most Critically Acclaimed - doesn't matter at all. She has had great success and is literally one of the best selling artists ever. Literally Top 10 most successful Female Artist - so you dismissing her "Legend" status over success, doesn't even make sense 1 1
Phaunzie Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 Musical Icon, Controversial Legend, I hope that answers your question. 1
Antikythera Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 17 hours ago, Storm653 said: Eh....Aside from BOMT and Oops being sales giants, does Britney really have a strong case over the people you named aside from nostalgia? Rihanna is the best hitmaker of the 21st century based on worldwide singles sales. Gaga is multi-talented, had direct influence on the electropop wave, and is an acclaimed actress. Taylor is an acclaimed songwriter and the best selling female act of the 21st century. Adele dropped the best selling album of the 21st century with universal appeal and is an acclaimed vocalist. Don't get it twisted. Britney can dance and had a solid 99-04 run but I just don't see what really makes her a greater legend than the people you named aside from the time/era she blew up in. I say this as a mild Britney fan too. You know we still have about 80 years in the 21st century, dont u? Britney can be 99-04 and here we are talking about her, every thread about her with several pages, her impact is still a thing, her autobio is #1. Even in countries where book sales are low, like mine (Brazil) we have a first edition with 100.000 physical copies already gone and this is happening in several countries. Lets see in ten years if all this people u talked about will be "21st century" anything, the industry loves to make this records and make ways of them being achieved. I love we talk about hits but never talk about radio boycott that was a thing during 99-04, not only for Britney. Pop was pretty much dead on the charts, we had a whole phase of rap and R&b and pop songs would need a rapper to crack into the top 50. I love how we can take today's numbers with the inflation like concert prices and how we can disregard the numbers when it comes to physical bought copies. Don't worry, you'll get older and u'll see a whole generation making less of ur fave and re-writing history. We all do it. 2
Antikythera Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Rev8 said: Babe.. most of the examples you mentioned, are SALES (being the Top at something, at that) it's like Prince and Janet aren't legends because they weren't at the Top of some list or something and Surprised ATRLers still need to be told this, but: Success doesn't make a Legend. Especially when sales and acclaim can be bought and faked these days... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Britney is still getting cited as influence by artists (new artists at that). Still getting tributes. Still getting referenced for her iconic moments (which she has, since it's Hard to have) Her work has been positively revisited and applauded over the years. She has been constantly hailed for her performances online (which actually shows that people revere her) and by other acts/publications. Her not being the Best Selling Female, or having the Most Hits, or being the Most Critically Acclaimed - doesn't matter at all. She has had great success and is literally one of the best selling artists ever. Literally Top 10 most successful Female Artist - so you dismissing her "Legend" status over success, doesn't even make sense Just her 2001 VMA performance is more influential than any Rihanna performance, having her a million #1s or not. No one ever remember any Rihanna or Adele performances, but everyone remembers Britneys 2000, 2001 and 2003 VMAs, even 20 years later. Even if Slave wasn't her biggest hit (radio boycotted her, no one seems to know that). Toxic by the way was not a #1 song for the same reason and all generations know this song. I find it hilarious how people try to rewrite history, it is like I am in a "Twilight Zone" episode, especially when Xtina fans act like she is so important even dough she can put a solo song into the hot 100 in years. But Britney is bad, Britney is not an artist, she is not a singer, not a performer, not human, she never didgood, seling 50 million copies of her first two albums are nothing and so on. lol The good thing about the Britney haters is that they make us remember she is still alive, she is still powerful, and she still threatens their faves. 2
Phonography Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 People say no because they compare her to music legends like Madonna or Michael Jackson (which of course she doesn't fit). I feel like she could become one in the line of Marilyn, remembered mostly because of her story and appearence (of course she has an impressive music career which would help to cement the legend status, just like Marilyn had a big peak in acting but still she's remembered more as a personality).
Dan81 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/15/2023 at 5:40 PM, kataraqueen said: and I suppose imitation really is the highest form of flattery edit: the left one shows the before pic. it's supposed to show how they've been inspired by each other. "and I suppose imitation really is the highest form of flattery" GOES BOTH WAYS. y'all got worms for brains on god I really don’t understand the hate Beyoncé got from Britney fans I mean I am the biggest Britney fan but I love Beyoncé too she so talented, beautiful and was always nice and sweet to Britney 1
Dan81 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 She is a living legend and to me personally I think she is the true queen of pop 1
kataraqueen Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Phonography said: People say no because they compare her to music legends like Madonna or Michael Jackson (which of course she doesn't fit). I feel like she could become one in the line of Marilyn, remembered mostly because of her story and appearence (of course she has an impressive music career which would help to cement the legend status, just like Marilyn had a big peak in acting but still she's remembered more as a personality). Madonna isn't remembered for her music like that either lol
brazil Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/15/2023 at 11:13 AM, Alex Rover said: No. Legends are acclaimed and have tons of longevity. Which Britney doesn’t: her last multi-platinum album in the US was released before the digital era kicked off. Im just now reading this comment. The funny part about this is that Britney's last multi-platinum album was released over 5 years after the beggining of her career. Meanwhile Gaga's was released 3 years after her debut. Britney has 4 multi-platinum albums (including two Diamond) Gaga has 2 (barely). If you wanna talk about lack of longevity, we could, but im not sure the conversarion is going the way you want 3
Eternium Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Comedor said: She’s a legend, but that’s mostly because she had a great team behind her, and she was willing to go with the schedule. She’s a well manufactured pop girl and that’s ok. Love her and wish her the best! The team behind Britney were idiots and some of the least competent in the game - she came from an indie label with very weak success in the pop field. They almost ruined her career with the first single, “Baby One More Time,” when they tried to force her to make the video an animated, Transformers-themed video. Britney’s idea single-handedly launched her to global stardom, made Max Martin the #1 songwriter/producer of our generation and created the image that made K-pop a viable field. Her label was terrible in every way - they fought her to keep “Toxic” from being a single, they forced her to work with a pedophile/rapist (R. Kelly) and tried to force “Outrageous” as a single, her first four albums had less editions combined than one album from most of her peers, they did nothing to push her on radio (she’s never had a #1 on radio despite massive success in every other field), etc. Did you really think that Britney Spears, of all people, had a good team? 20 hours ago, Storm653 said: Eh....Aside from BOMT and Oops being sales giants, does Britney really have a strong case over the people you named aside from nostalgia? Rihanna is the best hitmaker of the 21st century based on worldwide singles sales. Gaga is multi-talented, had direct influence on the electropop wave, and is an acclaimed actress. Taylor is an acclaimed songwriter and the best selling female act of the 21st century. Adele dropped the best selling album of the 21st century with universal appeal and is an acclaimed vocalist. Don't get it twisted. Britney can dance and had a solid 99-04 run but I just don't see what really makes her a greater legend than the people you named aside from the time/era she blew up in. I say this as a mild Britney fan too. - Rihanna was heavily inspired by Britney Spears - Rated R and Umbrella are prime examples - Gaga is a known Britney stan. She’s heavily influenced by Britney, she’s dressed up as Britney in many videos and she’s thanked Britney for helping get her her start when Britney agreed to record the Gaga-penned “Quicksand.” - Taylor Swift is also a fellow Britney stan and attended the Britney Spears Performing Arts Camp as a kid. She’s borrowed Britney’s looks (Bad Blood), she’s borrowed Britney’s sounds (Reputation, 1989, IKYWT) and she followed Britney’s blueprint heavily (Max Martin, Joseph Kahn). - Adele is also a known Britney stan who skipped her own concert to go to Britney’s “Circus” tour. I blame Britney’s impact for why we have “Send My Love” and I apologize on Britney’s behalf. Did you really think you’d be dragging Britney by naming four of the girls whose careers relied heavily on Britney’s impact? 6 2
Eternium Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/15/2023 at 9:13 AM, Alex Rover said: No. Legends are acclaimed and have tons of longevity. Which Britney doesn’t: her last multi-platinum album in the US was released before the digital era kicked off. Yikes. Just seeing this and glad @brazil drew my attention to this. iTunes was released in 2001 and started counting for the charts in 2004. Streaming began in 2001 and started counting for U.S. charts on July 31st, 2007. Can you or one of the “geniuses” that liked your post, namely @Mystic Boy @satellites.™ @Homebrand @Winged @Power love @NewStanner, explain to me how 2x Platinum Femme Fatale, an album released in March 2011, was released before the digital era began in 2001? Hating Britney does really do something to you girls and your inability to comprehend basic facts. 1 3
Eternium Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, brazil said: Im just now reading this comment. The funny part about this is that Britney's last multi-platinum album was released over 5 years after the beggining of her career. Meanwhile Gaga's was released 3 years after her debut. Britney has 4 multi-platinum albums (including two Diamond) Gaga has 2 (barely). If you wanna talk about lack of longevity, we could, but im not sure the conversarion is going the way you want Britney’s label doesn’t pay for certifications but she has significantly more than 4. Baby One More Time - 14x Platinum Oops!…I Did It Again - 12x Platinum Britney - 5x Platinum In The Zone - 4x Platinum Greatest Hits: My Prerogative - 2x Platinum Blackout - 2x Platinum Circus - 3x Platinum The Singles Collection - Gold Femme Fatale - 2x Platinum The Essential Britney Spears (unofficial) - Gold Britney Jean - Gold Glory - N/A [450k 7/29/23 through Nielsen, will be Gold in 2024] There’s a reason you’ll never catch those girls actually using Nielsen Soundscan numbers 5
brazil Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Eternium said: Britney’s label doesn’t pay for certifications but she has significantly more than 4. Baby One More Time - 14x Platinum Oops!…I Did It Again - 12x Platinum Britney - 5x Platinum In The Zone - 4x Platinum Greatest Hits: My Prerogative - 2x Platinum Blackout - 2x Platinum Circus - 3x Platinum The Singles Collection - Gold Femme Fatale - 2x Platinum The Essential Britney Spears (unofficial) - Gold Britney Jean - Gold Glory - N/A [450k 7/29/23 through Nielsen, will be Gold in 2024] There’s a reason you’ll never catch those girls actually using Nielsen Soundscan numbers Omg, she slays beyong what i could imagine
Homebrand Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Eternium said: Yikes. Just seeing this and glad @brazil drew my attention to this. iTunes was released in 2001 and started counting for the charts in 2004. Streaming began in 2001 and started counting for U.S. charts on July 31st, 2007. Can you or one of the “geniuses” that liked your post, namely @Mystic Boy @satellites.™ @Homebrand @Winged @Power love @NewStanner, explain to me how 2x Platinum Femme Fatale, an album released in March 2011, was released before the digital era began in 2001? Hating Britney does really do something to you girls and your inability to comprehend basic facts. Idk why you take downvotes so personal, it's a forum babe, lighten up 3 1
Funnyfatty Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Britney is a LEGEND. Those weirdos should understand when numbers don’t matter anymore. Every artist new or old called Britney as a influence on their career. Its embarrassing to say she is not a legend. She is not Madonna or Michael, but she never wanted that. She had always a different star power different aura than EVERYONE.
Mystic Boy Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 6 hours ago, brazil said: Im just now reading this comment. The funny part about this is that Britney's last multi-platinum album was released over 5 years after the beggining of her career. Meanwhile Gaga's was released 3 years after her debut. Britney has 4 multi-platinum albums (including two Diamond) Gaga has 2 (barely). If you wanna talk about lack of longevity, we could, but im not sure the conversarion is going the way you want Dont know why you're bringing up Gaga, an act who accomplished so much more in her career than your industry puppet in such a shorter time And for information, ASIB is 3x platinum which was 10 years into her career, ow but let me guess,it's nOt a sTuDio aLboM iSsa sOuNdTrAcKkK 1
Funnyfatty Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mystic Boy said: Dont know why you're bringing up Gaga, an act who accomplished so much more in her career than your industry puppet in such a shorter time And for information, ASIB is 3x platinum which was 10 years into her career, ow but let me guess,it's nOt a sTuDio aLboM iSsa sOuNdTrAcKkK That soundtrack broke records + won an oscar. The clown hoes need to stop. Britney is still a legend though 2
jijie101 Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, brazil said: Im just now reading this comment. The funny part about this is that Britney's last multi-platinum album was released over 5 years after the beggining of her career. Meanwhile Gaga's was released 3 years after her debut. Britney has 4 multi-platinum albums (including two Diamond) Gaga has 2 (barely). If you wanna talk about lack of longevity, we could, but im not sure the conversarion is going the way you want TF, TFM, BTW and ASIB are all multi platinum, what are you even talking about Gaga is above her in literally everything but pure album sales, stay pressed Edited October 20, 2023 by jijie101 1 1
SinnerCity Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 43 minutes ago, Mystic Boy said: Dont know why you're bringing up Gaga, an act who accomplished so much more in her career than your industry puppet in such a shorter time And for information, ASIB is 3x platinum which was 10 years into her career, ow but let me guess,it's nOt a sTuDio aLboM iSsa sOuNdTrAcKkK Britney Spears is a legend, one of the top-selling female artists of all time. She has #1 in three different decades and top 10 hits in four different decades and last but not least, one of the most celebrated entertainers worldwide with a story of resistance and strength! Oh, and by the way Happy 20th ATRL anniversary babes! xx Joined October 18, 2003 4
BANKS Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) Most definitely. Similar to icons like Marilyn Monroe and Princess Diana, i believe / hope that in the future the world will recognize how poorly they treated her. Edited October 20, 2023 by BANKS 1
Janet Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 1:37 AM, JaXXXon said: I would call Britney a legend but then when I do a part of me thinks it's a bit inauthentic. Then again, what she accomplished and how humongous big she was when she peaked which quite honestly could only be rivaled by Lady Gaga and Adele in music HISTORY (didn't experience Madonna's peak though) I feel like not calling her one is a bit... immature? Britney causes more traction still than people who are relevant in music today. I thjnk Britney is more "legendary" than adele. Would not class adele as a "legend" at all tbh. 3
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