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idk i feel like both artistic cinema and mega blockbuster franchises can both coexist without constantly being compared :bam: 

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Sit down grandpa. All these old folks mad at the Marvel movies, like let it go...

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He talks as if Marvel is still on top of the game :rip:

 

Anyway can't waut to see hsi new movie even tho im so over Dicaprio 

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14 minutes ago, imabadkid said:

OLD Hollywood is so mad that the old system doesn’t work anymore… mind u the system that ensured that only straight cis men worked consistently and a v few women and literally no POC or representation for the LGBTQIA+ community.
 

They’re mad that the new system can’t be controlled by old men in their high rise office working for some studio in Burbank. Marvel, influencers, etc aren’t perfect but I love watching how mad it makes them that Hollywood and Entertainment is a completely diff world today than what it was back when four wealthy cis billionaire men got to decide who was important enough who they deemed to be a “star”. No one needs them anymore, hell Gen Z doesn’t even go to the movies anymore they’re on TikTok and YouTube these days. Things change, that’s part of life

You do realize Marvel is owned by Disney right? It is literally THE definition of the Hollywood studio system and what they stand for. Literally the reason Marvel didn't make a female led move until 2019 is misogynist old men that were in charge. :rip:

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42 minutes ago, Machete said:

He was always bitter but the fact he’s still dragging MCU after their recent outputs have been tanking left and right shows he is extremely bitter.

 

MCU is tanking and still no one wants to see your movies bro. You’re the problem. 

Exactly.

 

Lets act as if streaming, lack of creativity and rebooting every freaking thing isn't more of a problem than a 4-5 super hero movies in a year.

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We’re almost out to the other side, thankfully. I haven’t seen anyone hyped for a comic book movie in forever and it feels like they’re all flopping at the box office. So glad that era is over with. 

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Does he sound like a boomer when he complains about superhero movies? Yes. Is MCU the McDonald's of film? Also yes.

 

Thankfully, the MCU hype train has collapsed. Scorsese should be happy that we had two excellent original films released this year on the same day. Looking forward to watching Killers of the Flower Moon too. :clap3:

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And he was/is right. As we see now with the frontloaded BOMBS of MCU/DC. Original cinema is coming back, no more franchises :clap3:

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11 minutes ago, mystery said:

You do realize Marvel is owned by Disney right? It is literally THE definition of the Hollywood studio system and what they stand for. Literally the reason Marvel didn't make a female led move until 2019 is misogynist old men that were in charge. :rip:

yes mizgirl everyone knows that… I’m talking moreso about the entire Hollywood system as a whole and how basically all these old people are mad that they can’t run it the same way they did a decade or 20 years ago.

 

Marvel isn’t perfect but let’s not pretend like these wealthy cis men complaining we’re so progressive and known for their diverse casts in their movies.

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52 minutes ago, imabadkid said:

OLD Hollywood is so mad that the old system doesn’t work anymore… mind u the system that ensured that only straight cis men worked consistently and a v few women and literally no POC or representation for the LGBTQIA+ community.
 

They’re mad that the new system can’t be controlled by old men in their high rise office working for some studio in Burbank. Marvel, influencers, etc aren’t perfect but I love watching how mad it makes them that Hollywood and Entertainment is a completely diff world today than what it was back when four wealthy cis billionaire men got to decide who was important enough who they deemed to be a “star”. No one needs them anymore, hell Gen Z doesn’t even go to the movies anymore they’re on TikTok and YouTube these days. Things change, that’s part of life

THIS. so much this. 

 

The older generation is mad we don't want to see movies about slavery, discrimination, and/or homophobia anymore. The one thing all of the 'comic book movies' have in common is DIVERSITY. It's not that we are choosing to not support movies with artistic vision, it's just that we embrace change and are voting with our wallets. We are telling them what we want, yet they turn their heads in stubbornness because back in the 80s and 90s they made great movies for that time!!! 

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he's gonna be even more mad when his 3 and a half hour long movie won't even make won't even make.half as much as what Marvel movies make these days/

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He is still hurt nobody watches his gangster movie anymore. 

 

Here's an advice:

LET IT GO! :marshmallow:

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31 minutes ago, imabadkid said:

yes mizgirl everyone knows that… I’m talking moreso about the entire Hollywood system as a whole and how basically all these old people are mad that they can’t run it the same way they did a decade or 20 years ago.

 

Marvel isn’t perfect but let’s not pretend like these wealthy cis men complaining we’re so progressive and known for their diverse casts in their movies.

 

You're right. Just see how he didn't Say we have to support Jordan peele, which Is a real, great and innovator author but Nolan, with his last movie about men, made by men with only men at the centre and where the only 2 women are there to Say 2 words and being the Crazy lover sexually provocative or the good wife there to forget your husband cheated on you (while drinking and smoking a lot of course). 

The same old bi color representation of women ( the good wife vs the sexy *****).

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1 hour ago, Mitsouko said:

Watch the unwashed friedbrains rush into the thread to say "old man yells at cloud" or whatever, but daddy told no lies as per usual :coffee:

daddy? that's grandpa sis

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The problem is the GP, who are supporting these movies. They have zero artistic taste and only consume low forms of entertainment.

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1 hour ago, Rabbit said:

STREAMING is killing the cinema industry if anything comic book movies are keeping it alive :deadbanana4:

Which is even funnier since Scorseses new movie will be premiering on AppleTV :rip: 

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I’m not going to argue that marvel’s movies could absolutely use a quality upgrade. That said, they are done for an entirely different audience usually. Not everything needs to be serious. Also, not everything needs to be male centric either. Marvel has been taking (albeit clumsy) strides to be more inclusive whereas his movies aren’t. It’s an old white men-centric cast. 

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2 hours ago, imabadkid said:

OLD Hollywood is so mad that the old system doesn’t work anymore… mind u the system that ensured that only straight cis men worked consistently and a v few women and literally no POC or representation for the LGBTQIA+ community.
 

They’re mad that the new system can’t be controlled by old men in their high rise office working for some studio in Burbank. Marvel, influencers, etc aren’t perfect but I love watching how mad it makes them that Hollywood and Entertainment is a completely diff world today than what it was back when four wealthy cis billionaire men got to decide who was important enough who they deemed to be a “star”. No one needs them anymore, hell Gen Z doesn’t even go to the movies anymore they’re on TikTok and YouTube these days. Things change, that’s part of life

This is true BUT old rich white men are still controlling these comic book movies and pushing and white man's view of things.

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