celeb news Music critic: "Taylor massively overhyped. Critics afraid of backlash from Swifities"

[Planet Mars]

I still find it suspicious how this discourse only ever seems to revolve around women artists.

 

At several points over the last decade, Justin Bieber, Bad Bunny, Ed Sheeran, Morgan Wallen, Drake and even Travis Scott have been just as oversaturated as Taylor Swift. They've dominated streaming, dominated the charts, courted massive and often frantic and chaotic fanbases and monopolized the pop cultural landscape, but you'd be hard pressed to see a reaction like this.

 

I've noticed that on Reddit and Instagram, Taylor Swift has become synonymous with the word "overrated", and you can't even go into an Eras tour video without comments from mostly straight men seemingly angry about people, particularly women, enjoying Taylor and her music.

 

It's just like Beyoncé after ST, when she began gaining acclaim and all of a sudden it became cool to call her overrated and overhyped.

 

Journalists are afraid of Taylor Swift fans yet you've had straight men cause literal riots, looting and property destruction over their favorite sports teams, not to mention the general toxicity of both Hip-hop and Rock music fans. Country music fans today are basically in competition for who can send the next racist to #1 on the charts. Where are the articles about these fanbases? Are they not even scarier?

 

It's ridiculous truly and it's why I don't even bother. People are always going to look down on entertainers that women (and gay men) enjoy and this is the result of that.

 

It's stupid how our society will always have this energy for women entertainers, who on average put in 3x the work of their male counterparts, but will turn around and be radio silent about the men.

 

Get a life

Edited August 13, 2023 by Planet Mars

[Enrique523]

Being afraid of backlash is true when it comes to ANY artist's fanbase these days, it's not unique to Swifties in any way. That critic clealry has an agenda and isn't objective in any way 

[TeemoR]

Well yes, it’s obvious at this point. 3 Aoty awards and 90+ albums on metacritic? For teenage girl childish music? Just lol

[GraceRandolph]

2 minutes ago, Marianah Adkins said:

The reaction and reports in this thread are proving this TERF’s point lmao 

Notice how no one addressed Jon Caramanica saying the same thing and just used the TERF’s shitty views to discredit this unrelated point. 

[Bonicap]

1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said:

But because she is successful and appeals to millennial white women and parts of Asia we have to pretend to like her or were accused of being haters, and our favs are has beens for speaking out about gay rights before 2019. 

This is pathetic. You are the one trying to diminish her success by saying that she only appeals to a certain demographic, when she is smashing in every country, and then play defensive making up things that nobody has said ("now we are forced to like her"). Why is the vague generalization that Taylor only appeals to white teenagers better than the vague generalization that Gaga or Beyonce only appeal to middle aged gays? Why is Taylor's main audience relevant for this matter? Aren't other artists audience chronically online just the same? Or are they better just because they are less people overall?

[Rep2000]

15 minutes ago, awesomepossum said:

Irrelevant

You mean the same woman who literally said in the article that she obsesses with Miley and Britney because of their "stint in rehab or a prescription pills problem"?

 

OTHs love to side with a problematic contrarian, huh? Color me susprised.

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Planet Mars said:

I still find it suspicious how this discourse only ever seems to revolve around women artists.

 

At several points over the last decade, Justin Bieber, Bad Bunny, Ed Sheeran, Morgan Wallen, Drake and even Travis Scott have been just as oversaturated as Taylor Swift. They've dominated streaming, dominated the charts, courted massive and often frantic and chaotic fanbases and monopolized the pop cultural landscape, but you'd be hard pressed to see a reaction like this.

 

I've noticed that on Reddit and Instagram, Taylor Swift has become synonymous with the word "overrated", and you can't 3ven go into an Eras tour video without comments from mostly straight men seemingly angry about people, particularly women, enjoying Taylor and her music.

 

It's just like Beyoncé after ST, when she began gaining acclaim and all of a sudden it became cool to call her overrated and overhyped.

 

Journalists are afraid of Taylor Swift fans yet you've had straight men cause literal riots, looting and property destruction over their favorite sports teams, not to mention the general toxicity of both Hip-hop and Rock music fans.

 

It's ridiculous truly and it's why I don't even bother. People are always going to look down on entertainers that women (and gay men) enjoy and this is the result of that.

 

It's stupid how our society will always have this energy for women entertainers, who on average put in 3x the work of their male counterparts, but will turn around and be radio silent about the men.

 

Get a life

THANK YOU!!!!! 

 

The way only female artists are targeted by **** like this is so obviously misogynistic since fanbases by male artists are WAY worse and no one is saying anything. How is Taylor more oversatured than the male artists you mentionned? She isn't, she just happen to be a woman and that's a problem apparently 

[Headlock]

3 minutes ago, Marianah Adkins said:

The reaction and reports in this thread are proving this TERF’s point lmao 

Yeah cause everyone came into this thread with the best of intentions, right? 

[khalyan]

3 minutes ago, Planet Mars said:

I still find it suspicious how this discourse only ever seems to revolve around women artists.

To be fair, this was a big discussion point regarding BTS over the last few years as well 

[Digitalism]

11 minutes ago, Bonicap said:

Because that's the proof that more people like her music, or think her music is of high quality, than anybody else in the world right now. Pretty straightforward.

Coldplay are one of the best sellers and biggest tpuring acts. Critics hate them

Critical hype is not related at all

[Post Malone]

1 hour ago, Devin said:

 

[GraceRandolph]

1 minute ago, khalyan said:

To be fair, this was a big discussion point regarding BTS over the last few years as well 

Anytime Swifties are faced with valid critiques of their fave they default to sexism accusations. Even during the private jet controversy.  

[Shelter]

14 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

Literally what do you think you're achieving by posting a random tweet with 47 likes? 

How is it random? That’s the writer of the article.  

[byzantium]

12 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Appealing to millennial white women and kids doesn’t equal broad appeal though. 

She is among the most global artists in the World right now.  Use some logic please.

[Bonicap]

You would think that the "media overhyping" critics would go against artists that are constantly talked about, praised, bloated and then they fail to tour on stadiums or they fail to reach high peaks on charts. But no, the overhyped artist is the one that can back absolutely everything that's said about her with objective facts and milestones 

[Rep2000]

7 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

But because she is successful and appeals to millennial white women and parts of Asia we have to pretend to like her or were accused of being haters, and our favs are has beens for speaking out about gay rights before 2019. 

And "part of Asia" would like you to shut the **** up about us. You don't speak for us, period.

 

Judging how you're consistently being obsessed in Taylor threads, vomitting nonsenses while inserting "our favs" when nobody was asking for them.

[Brooklyn Baby]

19 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Beyoncé, Madonna, Rihanna, and Gaga don’t appeal to kids and teens like Taylor does though.

Some of the girls mentioned could use more teens and kids actually. Maybe they would actually get streamed

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Headlock said:

Yeah cause everyone came into this thread with the best of intentions, right? 

Right? As if OTHs have not RUN into this thread just to spill their usual bile against her 

[byzantium]

1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said:

Anytime Swifties are faced with valid critiques of their fave they default to sexism accusations. Even during the private jet controversy.  

Are you pretending sexism does not exist now?

[Redstreak]

1 hour ago, Klein said:

I've read the whole article. The parts where she's criticizing and saying she doesn't get it is fine, but there are parts that are just so problematic.

 

So the entire reason she doesn't like Taylor is because she doesn't have anything to hate her for? Also, as if any mainstream artist is not a character, please. 

 

So she needs an artist to have a breakdown to be obsessed with them? Like am I the only one finding that deranged? 

 

The entire article reads like an ATRL meltdown ngl 

This is such weirdo logic? Did Lizzo just become her new #1 based on that?

[~Start The Music]

[Michael196]

not the tweet 

I thought that she was not afraid of backlash yet she's crying about it 

 

you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes 

 

Edited August 13, 2023 by Michael196

[The Music Industry]

4 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Yeah cause everyone came into this thread with the best of intentions, right? 

Like  Can't go a day without an OTH circle jerk thread 

[Vermillion]

Some points made here, but the messenger completely eliminates the message.

 

The double standards are real but overhyped to discredit some arguments made here, but this piece, as a result of the outlet that delivers it and her history, can unfortunately be dismissed almost entirely as contrarian clickbait.

 

She'd shame the same Miley and Britney in another editorial to make an entirely different argument while praising them here to slam another woman here.

 

It's all transparent. She's pop culture's Glenn Greenwald.

[GraceRandolph]

Just now, byzantium said:

Are you pretending sexism does not exist now?

Obviously not, but you can’t just chock up all criticism of Taylor to sexism, when that’s clearly not the root of a lot of it.